ARTICLE: Bardsley linked with Burnley return

[boatshed bill]

I said he employed a mate , he did .

"Influence or not , waste of £1 million, Reid was brought in because he's a mate of Dyche not sure why people can't just admit it ." (slightly paraphrased)

Not quite the same, you imply it's the sole reason.

[joey13]

"Influence or not , waste of £1 million, Reid was brought in because he's a mate of Dyche not sure why people can't just admit it ." (slightly paraphrased)

Not quite the same, you imply it's the sole reason.

Correct, we got relegated

[Jimscho]

- The training facility Dyche enabled us to build
- The board for backing Dyche for the previous 2 years
- Several signings made by Dyche like Brady, JBG, Boyd, Hendrick, Defour to name a few
- The transformation under Dyche since he arrived
- The promotions and survival
- I constantly stick up for players like Gray and Boyd, infact you wont find many who rate Gray higher
- I even praised some performances last season like Watford (H) and Everton (A) despite hating the football we play.

JUst some of the things I have praised yet you and others choose to ignore because it doesn't suit your agenda.

So why do you f...ing moan all the time.Why did you start threads wanting Dyche out and why do you constantly abuse other posters.

[dsr]

I can't disagree with this. Certain posters cannot and will not lay any critique towards Dyche or the Club, despite there being valid reasons to do so.

Of course there are valid points with which you can criticise Sean Dyche. You can have a go at everybody. Harry Potts' mistakes, Jimmy McIlroy's mistakes, Barry Kilby's mistakes, John Haworth's mistakes, because they all made mistakes. We have never had a perfect human being at this club - every single person who has done anything here, has made mistakes. So what are we supposed to do? Sack them all and try and find the person who doesn't make mistakes? The next man will very probably be worse.

I look at my time following BFC - first season ticket 1986-87 - and I know mistakes have been made. I can look back at all the decisions which have been made and think how much better it would have been if they'd done this, if they hadn't signed him, if so and so hadn't been appointed, if they'd got that man when he was available ... And then I look at where we are and think "hang on - we're doing OK". Take one thing and another, looking back over the last 30 years, the club has done pretty damn well. And the people making the decisions get the credit. So when one of those vital decision-making people (Ssean Dyche) makes a decision that I personally wouldn't have made, I don't think "that man is wrong, moan moan, complain complain" I think that we're doing well because of decisions like that, and he's a lot more experienced than I am, so I wholeheartedly accept that decision. Up the Clarets.

And if that decision does turn out to be wrong, or even not as right as it might have, then we're back to paragraph 1. Sean Dyche makes mistakes. What of it?

[fidelcastro]

You're right, dsr, but what you've got to accept is that Dyche isn't as competent at decision making as some of the posters on here.

FACT.

[KRBFC]

So why do you f...ing moan all the time.Why did you start threads wanting Dyche out and why do you constantly abuse other posters.

You say I abuse other posters constantly, give me some examples because I dont believe I have ever been banned for abusing posters.

[Tall Paul]

I don't think I did, although I wont say for certain I didn't. Of course Dyche wins overall, I'm just highlighting that he does get things wrong. Footballs a game of opinions, yet opinion on this forum is looked down upon and stifled immediately.

I can remember you predicting something about how many away points we'd get....

[KRBFC]

I can remember you predicting something about how many away points we'd get....

You really want to go over that again?

[IanMcL]

Time out.

[Steve1956]

We all wanted Juke to score, I don't think there's ever been a greater collective will for someone to score

Mike Summerbee back in the day Sid,thought he was great while with us,never scored though,although everyone wanted him to.

[Long Time Lurker]

I'm ok with the idea of Bardsley. I don't think improving the cover at right back is a primary priority, but it would be beneficial if we could do that in some way. If adding Bardsley is the low cost answer to ticking that box, so we can divert more of our transfer budget towards other targets like a winger, a support striker and a solid defender, then I can see the reasoning behind it.

In the plus column Bardsley would strengthen our cover at right back for the next season and if we bring in someone else beyond that he could provide third option cover at left and right back. A huge plus point is that he isn't Glen Johnson.

My only concerns are that he seems to get injured quite a bit and he would add to our current wage bill. So unless Darikwa moves on to further his career by securing more playing time elsewhere it could lower the wages we can afford to offer other players this season.

He would also represent a player that is going to decrease in value. We could certainly do with more younger players that have the potential to increase in value so we can benefit from the fiscal lunacy of rising prices instead of being punished by it. This is an important consideration if we buy a lot of older players for today that we will have to offload at the end of their career in a couple of years for nothing because their replacements will be a lot more expensive than if we bought them this year.

If we are looking to spend on a right back that would take us beyond the next season Carl Jenkinson was a good name to hear in the form of transfer speculations, but going after him would require us to enter a bidding war that will probably jack his price and wage demands right up. Another player that could add to the team over the longer term would be Ryan Fredericks, but he seems to be committed to the Fulham cause. A lower priced roll of the dice addition that could go either way, turning out to be good or bad, would be someone like Guillermo Varela.

[vinrogue]

Sign Bardsley and you have a known decent PL back up at RB, not brilliant but affordable and experienced, loan out Darikwa and get game time into the lad and he increases in value whilst Bardsley decreases in value. I look at that and think win win PL survival is our only aim, others may see it totally differently. Recently we have had youngsters that had to wait and develop before breaking into the team, Tripps, Mee, JayRod, Ings, Keane are not a bad 5 to quote and maybe we can add Darikwa to that list if SD thinks game time on loan will improve him.

[Jimscho]

You say I abuse other posters constantly, give me some examples because I dont believe I have ever been banned for abusing posters.

This is my last word on the subject as this thread has departed from the subject as do most threads you post on.If you can not see you are abusive to other posters then you are a sadder person than I thought.I am not going to troll through threads to find your abusive posts,as I think most posters on here are well aware of what you say.Perhaps you should have been banned for some of the things you have said,not my decision unfortunately.I was a good friend of Lotty and remember well what you said about him and to him on here so don't play the innocent.This forum would be a better place without you and certain other posters.I read this forum less and less these days because of you and certain others as do a number of people I know.Goodbye I will not be replying to any other comments.

[ablueclaret]

Jimscho I think you are going a bit far Lotty was not averse to dishing things out on occassion and many of us take abuse on a daily basis.

Sadly too many people on here take things personally some defending the club as if their life and the clubs depended upon it others like myself taking a much more critical view which of course upsets certain posters.

Perhaps it's worth bearing in mind that most if not all of us are Burnley supporters or followers and that like in a family differences need to be tolerated and to some extent welcomed. It's that tension of difference which keeps a family healthy and the same with a football club.
It's when a club and its supporters become universally sychophantic like they did during OC's time that danger lurks.

[UpTheBeehole]

Sign Bardsley and you have a known decent PL back up at RB, not brilliant but affordable and experienced, loan out Darikwa and get game time into the lad and he increases in value whilst Bardsley decreases in value. I look at that and think win win PL survival is our only aim, others may see it totally differently. Recently we have had youngsters that had to wait and develop before breaking into the team, Tripps, Mee, JayRod, Ings, Keane are not a bad 5 to quote and maybe we can add Darikwa to that list if SD thinks game time on loan will improve him.

Darikwa is already older than those players were when we sold them, apart from Mee obviously, and he's nowhere near as good as any of them, nor will he ever be. Get shot of him.

[ablueclaret]

Always remember we might be relegated, Darikwa might become a valuable asset again.
I remember when he was the next best thing in many people's eyes.

[UpTheBeehole]

He's the next best thing in an opposition winger's eyes.

[TVC15]

It was clear to see in the cup games that Darikwa was simply not good enough. Sunderland away, Lincoln at home he was dreadful.

He did ok in parts in a couple of the other games but Dyche was constantly having to scream at him around his positioning and decision making.

I shudder to think how he would cope against a decent side / quality winger

[Tall Paul]

You really want to go over that again?

Not really. Everyone should know you're a liar by now, I don't need to prove it again.

[ablueclaret]

Tall Paul vendettas get you nowhere, just let KRBFC have his voice and ignore him if you think him irrelevant.

[IanMcL]

I'm ok with the idea of Bardsley.
In the plus column Bardsley would strengthen our cover at right back for the next season and if we bring in someone else beyond that he could provide third option cover at left and right back.

He would also represent a player that is going to decrease in value.

The purchase price is already minimal, so immaterial.

[KRBFC]

This is my last word on the subject as this thread has departed from the subject as do most threads you post on.If you can not see you are abusive to other posters then you are a sadder person than I thought.I am not going to troll through threads to find your abusive posts,as I think most posters on here are well aware of what you say.Perhaps you should have been banned for some of the things you have said,not my decision unfortunately.I was a good friend of Lotty and remember well what you said about him and to him on here so don't play the innocent.This forum would be a better place without you and certain other posters.I read this forum less and less these days because of you and certain others as do a number of people I know.Goodbye I will not be replying to any other comments.

So you were a friend of Lottys, ahhh your b*lllshitting about me and agenda towards me makes sense now. Lotty used to love going back and forth, maybe I crossed the line on occasion but if you poke the lion what do you expect? I made it quite clear that if he stopped poking me, the back and forths would stop, he carried on so obviously enjoyed it.

[Reecey1987]

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[ablueclaret]

He's getting more expensive by the minute.

[Tall Paul]

He's getting more expensive by the minute.

I thought you didn't care how much money we spend.

[ExistentialWanderer]

Good back up. Underwhelming signing that he would be, it makes sense. Certainly would feel more comfortable with him on the bench than Darikwa. Saw him play a few times last season and played quite well. Played a few super balls through as well. Always a card waiting to happen, but then he wouldn't be the first.

[ablueclaret]

By that Paul I do not tank a transfer window on the amount of cash we flash but by the quality of the players coming in.

[ClaretTony]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... dsley.html

Ha ha, that's the article which suggests a right back's opportunities could be limited because they've signed a new left back.

[Reecey1987]

Ha ha, that's the article which suggests a right back's opportunities could be limited because they've signed a new left back.

I didnt write the article CT

[ayrshireclaret83]

Confirmed

[claretblue]

Confirmed

another Irish then?