Mighty Clarets versus Wotfor?

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:17 pm

Should have been sown up at half time. We aren't the type of team to come back from 2 down with however long left.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:18 pm

Lowton could well be in trouble

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:18 pm

Paul Waine wrote:What money? Which bank?

Don't we pay out for wages?

Sorry we are obviously skint

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:19 pm

just seen the replay, I suspect Lowton could end up with a 3 match ban for standing on a Watford players hand on purpose

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:20 pm

Tall Paul wrote:I don't know what everyone is complaining about, most people said they wanted us to win on Thursday and lose today.

I don't think it's the defeat,but the performance that's worrying people,we lost our first home game last season against West Brom,but we played well and got caught by a sucker punch.Defending has been abysmal especially for a Sean Dyche team,if we carry on like that the whole season it will be a long campaign,fortunately i don't think we will.

BurnleyFC · Post by **BurnleyFC** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:20 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:just seen the replay, I suspect Lowton could end up with a 3 match ban for standing on a Watford players hand on purpose

Quite right too.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:Lowton could well be in trouble

That'll be a ban. Stupid petulant thing to do

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:21 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:just seen the replay, I suspect Lowton could end up with a 3 match ban for standing on a Watford players hand on purpose

It'll be a disgrace if Lowton gets a ban for that after the ones Hegazi and Salah got away with last season

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:21 pm

Not our day

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:21 pm

Fourth consecutive PL season we've lost the first home game but remember guys.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:22 pm

Boooooooooo !!

Bigvince · Post by **Bigvince** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:23 pm

Think it’s better to avoid this board for a couple of days.and leave it to the linch mob!

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:23 pm

As you say, no Creativity. Hard to see where a goal will come.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:23 pm

or worse still, the lynch mob

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:23 pm

Oh well, at least I had Aguero as FPL captain.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:24 pm

ebby wrote:As you say, no Creativity. Hard to see where a goal will come.

You know we got a goal today, don't you?

HieronymousBoschHobs · Post by **HieronymousBoschHobs** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:25 pm

We didn't look like scoring once we went down in the second half though did we?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:25 pm

That was bad but Will Hughes` goatee takes the gold medal for the day.

BobSykes · Post by **BobSykes** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:25 pm

Listless and lost. Again.

Worried.

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:26 pm

Yep Paul - from the Centre Half. Dont we have forwards?

Pstotto · Post by **Pstotto** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:26 pm

The poorest result since Waitrose started selling normal white sliced sourdough bread.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:26 pm

Watford played well second half.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:26 pm

Again? That’s the first time we’ve lost this season.

Right_winger · Post by **Right_winger** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:26 pm

Tall Paul wrote:You know we got a goal today, don't you?

From a set piece. It’s perfectly fair to criticise our lack of creativity, we knew this was a problem and it hasn’t been addressed in the summer whatsoever.

Dyche is another Allerdyce/Pulis type manager just plays the percentages.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:27 pm

As Dyche always says, it's small margins in this league. I don't believe for a second our European efforts had no effect, if you're not 100% switched on mentally and physically then you're going to struggle. Especially since our strengths are based on being tough to beat, having high concentration levels and having the energy to get in the way of everything.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Bigvince wrote:Think it’s better to avoid this board for a couple of days.and leave it to the linch mob!

What’s a linch mob ?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Wow what went wrong in the second half I am glad we did not play one of the top 6 clubs-could have been a massacre. Too many players went missing , Don't think Foster had to make a save in the second half

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:27 pm

Weird game. Once they scored we woke up and were superb. Watford looked poor.

Then we gift them two goals and lose the match.

Oh well, UTC

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:or worse still, the lynch mob

Who are we classing as the lynch mob? Is it the posters who want to let of a bit off frustration and have a whinge or is it the bunch of happy clappers who will be on every thread arguing and bickering about how somebody dare have an opinion that isnt as positive as their own

The messageboard will be a nightmare this aft/eve and it wont be because of the posters having a bit of a moan

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Still lacking creativity up top. Dominated the first half and played some nice stuff, but still didn’t create many clear cut chances.

Second half was dreadful. Midweek hangover?...

Bertiebeehead · Post by **Bertiebeehead** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Player ratings thread will be fantastic.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:28 pm

Tall Paul wrote:You know we got a goal today, don't you?

Yeh we did get a goal, from a set piece...and we should have had another when at 1-1 or maybe 2 more. But when when went 1 and 2 behind we never looked like scoring, which is what I think most people who have mentioned the lack of creativity, are talking about.

I’d like to see Vydra included in the squad on Thursday to add legs and a different dimension to our options. More importantly the two league games we’ve played I think we could and probably should have won both....league is far more
Important

ClaretAndJew · Post by **ClaretAndJew** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:29 pm

Nonayforever wrote:No it's not, more goals in this yet

Fortunately you did not bet me.

Spaceman · Post by **Spaceman** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:29 pm

That was very bad . Here's hoping it was the effect of long travel and two games a week.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:30 pm

Sh1te result.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:32 pm

This result just shows the sheer folly of embarking on a Europa League campaign having failed to strengthen the squad significantly in outfield positions, especially with question marks hanging over Defour and Brady fitness wise. Sadly, our 2 most creative players.

Still, that ship has sailed now so Sean Dyche just has to make the best of what he has at his disposal.

ebby · Post by **ebby** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:33 pm

I also think the lack of atmosphere has some effect. Not a big crowd.
Perhaps they are saving the money for the European games - lets face it - a day on the Turf isn't exactly cheap. Fine every two weeks but if you are playing continental teams also it starts to bite the hip pocket.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Who are we classing as the lynch mob? Is it the posters who want to let of a bit off frustration and have a whinge or is it the bunch of happy clappers who will be on every thread arguing and bickering about how somebody dare have an opinion that isnt as positive as their own

The messageboard will be a nightmare this aft/eve and it wont be because of the posters having a bit of a moan

clown, I was just correcting a spelling error from two posts above.

chekhov · Post by **chekhov** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

Fair dibs to the Watford manager (can't think of his name) but they must have changed something at half time. Whatever it was it worked!
Much better to praise the opponents that slag off ourselves. Okay admittedly we were't brilliant though...

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:34 pm

We're still in Europe.

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:35 pm

piston broke wrote:Europe had nothing to do with this performance.They've all been rotated and are fresh.

They started each half with a goal and then built from there. Our heads went down after the third, which is disappointing from an SD team. Some awful performances. We do tend to look lightweight against big, physical midfielders.

Hi piston, my thoughts, it's the preparation for europa game, then preparation for the Premier League game. So, even if we have the resources to rotate and keep players "fresh" we are preparing two different teams in a week and have less prep time as a result. Our defensive structure always needs a lot of coaching/preparation. This is what we are missing out on with 2 games, with rotation, every week.

But, it's a quality challenge and one we should be happy we have - even if we get results like today's now and again. (But not too often, please).

UTC

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:35 pm

warksclaret wrote:Wow what went wrong in the second half I am glad we did not play one of the top 6 clubs-could have been a massacre. Too many players went missing , Don't think Foster had to make a save in the second half

Did he even make a save in the first half? The free kick and I think that’s it.

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:37 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:clown, I was just correcting a spelling error from two posts above.

Calm down it wasnt aimed at you but just used your quote (as you used the correct spelling) as the basis for my comment. Jesus christ Id never have you down as a happy anything you miserable sod

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:38 pm

apologies Advocate.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:39 pm

Outplayed

Paul Waine · Post by **Paul Waine** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:42 pm

Just seen goals on NBC Sports. Should Hart have done better? Will we see Tom next time?

Not judging myself - not seen enough. But, 3 goals conceded, does this give Tom a chance at the shirt?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:43 pm

chekhov wrote:Fair dibs to the Watford manager (can't think of his name) but they must have changed something at half time. Whatever it was it worked!
Much better to praise the opponents that slag off ourselves. Okay admittedly we were't brilliant though...

They worked harder, closed us down quicker and as we all know we have zero creativity to combat that. Play like we did today at Fulham and we'll lose by 5

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:44 pm

Paul Waine wrote:Just seen goals on NBC Sports. Should Hart have done better? Will we see Tom next time?

Not judging myself - not seen enough. But, 3 goals conceded, does this give Tom a chance at the shirt?

Don't think Hart can be blamed for any of the goals.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:45 pm

Or, Ben Gibson a chance at the heart of the defence?

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:45 pm

Must give credit to Watford. Totally controlled the second half. Had we played like that away from home and scored 3 goals like that we would be on Cloud 9
Think Wood is better with someone alongside him as he is not particularly good in the air for his size