ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by equinox » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:05 pm

For the numbers being quoted: Bite their hand off!

It's not often Daniel Levy has his pants pulled down but Pace has managed it here.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by ClaretPete001 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:04 pm
Maybe the thinking is reintegrate Tresor and try to get at least the money back there. Daft purchase really.
Possibly, but we are no where near £50 million net sales. According to Transfermarket we spent Eur30 million on Esteve and Tresor and another 6.5 on Hountondji and Pires.

We've sold Muric and Odobert.

I think a lot of people in the media are surprised, we've managed to maintain so much of the squad.

Long may it continue.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Claretmisterg » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:17 pm

Good player and we will miss him but it’s not like in the past when we sold our star players because we have so many more talented players available to us, particularly at this level. Up the mighty clarets, come what may.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:20 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm
Possibly, but we are no where near £50 million net sales. According to Transfermarket we spent Eur30 million on Esteve and Tresor and another 6.5 on Hountondji and Pires.

We've sold Muric and Odobert.

I think a lot of people in the media are surprised, we've managed to maintain so much of the squad.

Long may it continue.
£10m for Kompany as well, was it raising to £15m , best sale of the season that one.

I make that

£43m in so far but yeah there’s the purchases to knock off

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by morninbob » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:28 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm
Possibly, but we are no where near £50 million net sales. According to Transfermarket we spent Eur30 million on Esteve and Tresor and another 6.5 on Hountondji and Pires.

We've sold Muric and Odobert.

I think a lot of people in the media are surprised, we've managed to maintain so much of the squad.

Long may it continue.
Esteve and Tresor will have already been factored in as guaranteed buys from last year.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Stayingup » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:33 pm

Be a blow to the new manager this as well as the fans.
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:37 pm

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm
Possibly, but we are no where near £50 million net sales. According to Transfermarket we spent Eur30 million on Esteve and Tresor and another 6.5 on Hountondji and Pires.

We've sold Muric and Odobert.

I think a lot of people in the media are surprised, we've managed to maintain so much of the squad.

Long may it continue.
Kompany 11-13
Odobert 25-30
Muric 10-15
Twine 3.5-4
BPF 0.5
Bastien (?)

50-62.5 there. Esteve and Tresor are really in last years spend of £95-100m. Another big sale (Berge or Trafford) and we’d have brought in an almost similar amount to what was spent. We’ll see if that happens but it sounds like we’ve been holding out for large fees which suggests we aren’t exactly desperate for cash flow.
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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by timshorts » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:03 pm

I guess he's the replacement for the moody Brazilian wanted in Saudi.

A good bit of business. It seems something special to pick up a kid from ligue 2, but I'm typing this at half time at dunkirk v annecy.
The quality is pretty dreadful. From the 45 minutes that I've watched, 3 players stand out from the rest, and dunkirk 20 bardeli should not be at this level. It's reminded me of Scott Parker when younger. He's 23.
The rest would have trouble getting into Oxford utd side, but they'd feel at home there as this ground only has 2 and a bit sides...

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Guppyspotter » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:13 am

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:45 pm
It was a tongue in cheek comment. Tresor? Who would buy him off his (lack of) showing so far?
Bayern?

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:47 am

ClaretPete001 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:13 pm
Possibly, but we are no where near £50 million net sales. According to Transfermarket we spent Eur30 million on Esteve and Tresor and another 6.5 on Hountondji and Pires.

We've sold Muric and Odobert.

I think a lot of people in the media are surprised, we've managed to maintain so much of the squad.

Long may it continue.
You might be mistaken thinking that way it's far more suggestive that the maintenance is down to most not being wanted & for a reason. We haven't really had to fend anybody off to reject bid after bid the 1s wanted have been quickly picked off without protracted negotiations. The only slow 1 (if true) is oshea where we appear to be holding out for more money if Brentford have lowballed.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by willsclarets » Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:00 am

Stayingup wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:33 pm
Be a blow to the new manager this as well as the fans.
I think Parker will have known full well he was likely to lose a few quality players. And I think that applies to the fans too. If he was our only top attacking player I'd be worried but we've got loads of quality options. I think Amdouni, if he stays, will suprise a few this season.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Swizzlestick » Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:54 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:47 am
You might be mistaken thinking that way it's far more suggestive that the maintenance is down to most not being wanted & for a reason. We haven't really had to fend anybody off to reject bid after bid the 1s wanted have been quickly picked off without protracted negotiations. The only slow 1 (if true) is oshea where we appear to be holding out for more money if Brentford have lowballed.
Berge slipped your mind too? He’s hardly been quickly ‘picked off’ despite United’s obvious interest.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Foshiznik » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:03 am

Seems some don’t realise that Tresor is still at the club and that it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that he has a break out season this season.

We all saw how good he was at Genk and I know I wasn’t the only one excited by the signing at the time. Anyone would think we had bought the trebor mint man instead going off the harsh criticism he’s receiving after one season where no Burnley player heaped themselves in glory.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:04 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:03 am
Seems some don’t realise that Tresor is still at the club as it isn’t beyond the realms of possibility that he has a break out season this season. We all saw how good he was at Genk and I know I wasn’t the only one excited by the signing at the time. Anyone would think we had bought the trebor mint man instead going off the abuse the harsh criticism he’s receiving after one season where no Burnley player heaped themselves in glory.
No doubt he’d be excellent this season but I’d be shocked to see Tresor play for Burnley again. A year ago he was getting into the Belgium team and recording the most assists in Europe, he’ll have an abundance of clubs after him on loan and we’ll be forced to accept it as he doesn’t want to be here.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Foshiznik » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:18 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:04 am
No doubt he’d be excellent this season but I’d be shocked to see Tresor play for Burnley again. A year ago he was getting into the Belgium team and recording the most assists in Europe, he’ll have an abundance of clubs after him on loan and we’ll be forced to accept it as he doesn’t want to be here.
Where did he say he didn’t want to be here? Surely he had to sign a contract to become permanent at Burnley this summer too?

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Jakubclaret » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:21 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 7:54 am
Berge slipped your mind too? He’s hardly been quickly ‘picked off’ despite United’s obvious interest.
Nothings slipped my mind it's hardly concrete interest with bids emerging.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:27 am

Foshiznik wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:18 am
Where did he say he didn’t want to be here? Surely he had to sign a contract to become permanent at Burnley this summer too?
It will have all been agreed in the contract last summer.

Simplifying it

‘If you play more than 5 games then you will become a permanent Burnley player on a 3 year contract’.

He signs and that’s that. As for not wanting to be here, every single other Burnley player has returned for at least a day in pre season, he’s deleted anything Burnley related on instagram and barely played last season. I get the impression he doesn’t want to be here.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by Foshiznik » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:45 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:27 am
It will have all been agreed in the contract last summer.

Simplifying it

‘If you play more than 5 games then you will become a permanent Burnley player on a 3 year contract’.

He signs and that’s that. As for not wanting to be here, every single other Burnley player has returned for at least a day in pre season, he’s deleted anything Burnley related on instagram and barely played last season. I get the impression he doesn’t want to be here.
Wasn’t aware of the instagram stuff to be honest. Doesn’t sound great.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:53 am

RVclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:27 am
It will have all been agreed in the contract last summer.

Simplifying it

‘If you play more than 5 games then you will become a permanent Burnley player on a 3 year contract’.

He signs and that’s that. As for not wanting to be here, every single other Burnley player has returned for at least a day in pre season, he’s deleted anything Burnley related on instagram and barely played last season. I get the impression he doesn’t want to be here.
Tresor never had anything Burnley related on his instagram to start with

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by RVclaret » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:57 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:53 am
Tresor never had anything Burnley related on his instagram to start with
He did.

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:28 am

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:37 pm
Kompany 11-13
Odobert 25-30
Muric 10-15
Twine 3.5-4
BPF 0.5
Bastien (?)

50-62.5 there. Esteve and Tresor are really in last years spend of £95-100m. Another big sale (Berge or Trafford) and we’d have brought in an almost similar amount to what was spent. We’ll see if that happens but it sounds like we’ve been holding out for large fees which suggests we aren’t exactly desperate for cash flow.
Three caveats:

1. Add ons etc not included because we don't know how much or even if we will get them..!
2. Agents fees etc not included but they will definitely have been incurred.
3. Rough currency translation we all know these figures are probably only ball park (if that)

Kompany - £10 million (Independent, Burnley Express)
Odobert - £25 million (Transfermarket)
Muric - £9 million (Transfermarket)
Twine - £3 million (Bristol Live)
BPF - £0.5 million (Transfermarket)
Bastien - ?

Let's say £50 million

Less: (all Transfermarket)

Tresor - £15 million
Esteve - £10 million
Hountodji - £3 million
Pires £2 million

Let's say £30 million

Net Income £20 million

Last years spend in Euros (£94 million) - Transfermarket

Zeki Amdouni FC Basel 18.60
James Trafford Man City U21 17.30
Aaron Ramsey Aston Villa U21 16.45
Jordan Beyer Bor. M'gladbach 15.00
Sander Berge Sheff Utd 13.90
Wilson Odobert Troyes 12.00
Dara O'Shea West Brom 7.80
Michael Obafemi Swansea 4.00
Hannes Delcroix RSC Anderlecht 3.00
Luca Koleosho RCD Espanyol B 3.00
Eur 111.05

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:31 am

morninbob wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:28 pm
Esteve and Tresor will have already been factored in as guaranteed buys from last year.
Indeed but you still have to pay for them...

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Re: ARTICLE: Odobert leaves for Spurs

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 10:36 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:47 am
You might be mistaken thinking that way it's far more suggestive that the maintenance is down to most not being wanted & for a reason. We haven't really had to fend anybody off to reject bid after bid the 1s wanted have been quickly picked off without protracted negotiations. The only slow 1 (if true) is oshea where we appear to be holding out for more money if Brentford have lowballed.
Indeed I think most sensible people would have expected to see more activity this summer but I don't want to conjecture at this point about why it hasn't happened....

It could be because we haven't got cash flow problems or it could be because we simply can't afford to sell them off cheap.

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