Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Vegas Claret]

ask for 40 million

[Stonehouse]

Rovers seem to be actually signing a few players.

If you look on their forum they get excited if they spent 1/2 million,file under clinging on to former glories.

[Stonehouse]

Rovers seem to be actually signing a few players.

Danny Batth 33 yrs old on a one year deal.Thatll get the numpties excited.

[Rumpelstiltskin]

Esteve has just gone 22.He will improve and be a massive talent.Rare left sided centre back.Would be criminal to let him go for anything less than 30 million and even at that I would prefer we kept him.

[ArmchairDetective]

Esteve seems pretty happy here but obv his agent is putting his name out there with Romano mentioning him a few times now. Would be a real shame to lose him but Wolves are in the market for a cb after losing Kilman, in particular a left footed one.

This seems pretty spot on. Imagine Esteve would give his absolute all for us this season if he doesn't get a move. But both him and his agent will know he's a valuable asset with a high ceiling. Would be silly as an agent to not create speculation about an asset like Maxime.

Hoping he's still here come the end of August.

[Anonymous Claret]

Trafford, Esteve, O'Shea and Berge all appear to have interest in them from bigger clubs than us atm. I think we can cope with the loss of Trafford due to signing the keeper from Ipswich but I would not be surprised if we also lost 2 if not all of the other 3. Hopefully we can keep 2 out of Berge, Esteve and O'Shea.

[Casper2]

Good friend of mine met Luke Harris (Fulham)last weekend, apparently us and Derby are in for him on loan

[123EasyasBFC]

Good friend of mine met Luke Harris (Fulham)last weekend, apparently us and Derby are in for him on loan

Sky sports have him down for a loan move to Birmingham

[123EasyasBFC]

I’m sure there will be interest in esteve from premier league clubs but Romano doing a good job there at being able to say he was the first to call the move by saying he ‘could’ move in August, well obviously the transfer window is open the whole of August

[Casper2]

Sky sports have him down for a loan move to Birmingham

Not happening, Fulham want him at a championship club apparently.

[billyhamilton82]

ask for 40 million

This seems like a very similar situation to Nathan Collins.

We received approximately £20 million for him after one relegation season.

That was two years ago and prices have rocketed since then.

Would have thought at least £30 million for Esteve, especially as a decent left sided CB are as rare as rocking horse poo that would only add to his value. If that would push to £40 milloon would probably depend on how many bidders are involved.

That being said I do hope we keep him.

[NewClaret]

This seems like a very similar situation to Nathan Collins.

We received approximately £20 million for him after one relegation season.

That was two years ago and prices have rocketed since then.

Would have thought at least £30 million for Esteve, especially as a decent left sided CB are as rare as rocking horse poo that would only add to his value. If that would push to £40 milloon would probably depend on how many bidders are involved.

That being said I do hope we keep him.

Why sell him for way less than he’ll be worth in a couple id seasons?

[Bowclaret]

Start the bidding at 50 M

FULL STOP !

[Newcastleclaret93]

This seems like a very similar situation to Nathan Collins.

We received approximately £20 million for him after one relegation season.

That was two years ago and prices have rocketed since then.

Would have thought at least £30 million for Esteve, especially as a decent left sided CB are as rare as rocking horse poo that would only add to his value. If that would push to £40 milloon would probably depend on how many bidders are involved.

That being said I do hope we keep him.

You watch he will probably go for 15m rising to 20m haha.

Some the valuations of our players (on this board) from last season are absolutely insane.

If we look at this summers market for comparable players:

Hujelsen: 19 year old CB that broke into Romas starting eleven last season. 12m pounds.

Riad: 21 year old CB started 25 games in La liga last season. 12m pounds.

Jake O’Brien: 21 year old CB that played 28 times for Lyon last season. 17m pounds

Jacob Greaves: 23 year old CB played for hull last season. 19m pounds (this one actually looks expensive this market)

Okoli: 23 year old CB played 36 games for Frozinone in Serie A. 11m pounds

Milenkovic: 26 so a bit older. Regular starter in Serie A. 11m pounds

Apart from Yoro going to United for Obscene money. I just don’t see where in this market people think we are going to get even remotely close to 30m let alone 40m.

[123EasyasBFC]

You watch he will probably go for 15m rising to 20m haha.

Some the valuations of our players (on this board) from last season are absolutely insane.

If we look at this summers market for comparable players:

Hujelsen: 19 year old CB that broke into Romas starting eleven last season. 12m pounds.

Riad: 21 year old CB started 25 games in La liga last season. 12m pounds.

Jake O’Brien: 21 year old CB that played 28 times for Lyon last season. 17m pounds

Jacob Greaves: 23 year old CB played for hull last season. 19m pounds (this one actually looks expensive this market)

Okoli: 23 year old CB played 36 games for Frozinone in Serie A. 11m pounds

Milenkovic: 26 so a bit older. Regular starter in Serie A. 11m pounds

Apart from Yoro going to United for Obscene money. I just don’t see where in this market people think we are going to get even remotely close to 30m let alone 40m.

How long did all the above players have left on their contracts

[Newcastleclaret93]

How long did all the above players have left on their contracts

Huijsen - 3.5 years
Riad- 4 years
O Brian - 3 years
Greaves - 2 years
Okoli- 3 years
Milenkovic - 3 years

[randomclaret2]

You watch he will probably go for 15m rising to 20m haha.

Some the valuations of our players (on this board) from last season are absolutely insane.

If we look at this summers market for comparable players:

Hujelsen: 19 year old CB that broke into Romas starting eleven last season. 12m pounds.

Riad: 21 year old CB started 25 games in La liga last season. 12m pounds.

Jake O’Brien: 21 year old CB that played 28 times for Lyon last season. 17m pounds

Jacob Greaves: 23 year old CB played for hull last season. 19m pounds (this one actually looks expensive this market)

Okoli: 23 year old CB played 36 games for Frozinone in Serie A. 11m pounds

Milenkovic: 26 so a bit older. Regular starter in Serie A. 11m pounds

Apart from Yoro going to United for Obscene money. I just don’t see where in this market people think we are going to get even remotely close to 30m let alone 40m.

None of them played in the Premier League and most come from countries where fees are lower ( rightly or wrongly )

[Newcastleclaret93]

None of them played in the Premier League and most come from countries where fees are lower ( rightly or wrongly )

You’re potentially right but I just don’t see 13 apps in our back four increasing his value by ten million.

The market is usually a really good indicator of value. I think he goes for a decent fee but not sure it’s the 30-40ms getting thrown around on here.

[RVclaret]

We got 21m for Collins with a similar amount of Prem appearances. In my view Esteve is just as good, if not better, is left footed (rare) and it’s 2 years on, with further price inflation. We should be demand, at a minimum, the same we did for Collins.

[Newcastleclaret93]

We got 21m for Collins with a similar amount of Prem appearances. In my view Esteve is just as good, if not better, is left footed (rare) and it’s 2 years on, with further price inflation. We should be demand, at a minimum, the same we did for Collins.

I think that fee is about right.

Suggestions of higher are just not realistic.

[123EasyasBFC]

Huijsen - 3.5 years
Riad- 4 years
O Brian - 3 years
Greaves - 2 years
Okoli- 3 years
Milenkovic - 3 years

Contract length isn’t a reason for the low fees then either. Recent history says there isn’t much money across Europe.

What I would say esteve being 6ft 4, left footed and being pretty decent with his feet is hard to come by

[gandhisflipflop]

Esteve is worth way more than 21m to us. That’s the key factor. 40m or he stays with us.

[taio]

I think that fee is about right.

Suggestions of higher are just not realistic.

£30m - £40m is just wishful thinking

[ArmchairDetective]

£30m - £40m is just wishful thinking

It's not wishful thinking if our wish is for him to stay with us.

[Stonehouse]

And where do we think any profit will go if we sell Esteve?

[Jakubs Tash]

You watch he will probably go for 15m rising to 20m haha.

Some the valuations of our players (on this board) from last season are absolutely insane.

If we look at this summers market for comparable players:

Hujelsen: 19 year old CB that broke into Romas starting eleven last season. 12m pounds.

Riad: 21 year old CB started 25 games in La liga last season. 12m pounds.

Jake O’Brien: 21 year old CB that played 28 times for Lyon last season. 17m pounds

Jacob Greaves: 23 year old CB played for hull last season. 19m pounds (this one actually looks expensive this market)

Okoli: 23 year old CB played 36 games for Frozinone in Serie A. 11m pounds

Milenkovic: 26 so a bit older. Regular starter in Serie A. 11m pounds

Apart from Yoro going to United for Obscene money. I just don’t see where in this market people think we are going to get even remotely close to 30m let alone 40m.

Kilman: Wolves to West Ham £40m

[taio]

It's not wishful thinking if our wish is for him to stay with us.

Wishful thinking in terms of transfer fee, obviously

[Newcastleclaret93]

Contract length isn’t a reason for the low fees then either. Recent history says there isn’t much money across Europe.

What I would say esteve being 6ft 4, left footed and being pretty decent with his feet is hard to come by

I appreciate that but for clarity

Huijsen is 6ft 4 and left footed and came through the juventus academy so really good with his feet.

Riad is 6ft 3 he’s also left footed and is also been brought up with the playing it out from the back tactic.

O’Brien is 6ft 4 and he is left footed but describes himself as (both footed).

They are very similar players and they have been purchased for fairly similar fees. I think we can get more for Esteve but not sure he’s worth the high high amounts

[mybloodisclaret]

Just a thought.... how long is Esteve contracted for? Can't remember seeing it published anywhere.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Kilman: Wolves to West Ham £40m

Kilman is 27 and has over 100 premier league apps.

Non comparable transfer

[Jakubs Tash]

Kilman is 27 and has over 100 premier league apps.

Non comparable transfer

Actually it’s very relevant.

Only 100 appearances in the PL at 27. Pretty much a bench warmer for most of his career.

Esteve much younger. Played in the PL and had eye catching performances. Super high ceiling. Premium left sided centre half.

[123EasyasBFC]

I appreciate that but for clarity

Huijsen is 6ft 4 and left footed and came through the juventus academy so really good with his feet.

Riad is 6ft 3 he’s also left footed and is also been brought up with the playing it out from the back tactic.

O’Brien is 6ft 4 and he is left footed but describes himself as (both footed).

They are very similar players and they have been purchased for fairly similar fees. I think we can get more for Esteve but not sure he’s worth the high high amounts

I don’t think we will get the 30m+ people are suggesting, the fact he’s had half a season in prem will add to his price, to get 22m we got for Collins, esteve should be more than that

[Newcastleclaret93]

Actually it’s very relevant.

Only 100 appearances in the PL at 27. Pretty much a bench warmer for most of his career.

Esteve much younger. Played in the PL and had eye catching performances. Super high ceiling. Premium left sided centre half.

He’s a unique player Killman pretty played no professional football until he was 23 and then he’s pretty much played every game for the last 4 seasons.

He’s a late bloomer but you can’t compare a CB at the peak of his powers with over 100 premier league apps and some European football to Estève.

There are much closer comparisons out there

[Goliath]

I don’t think we will get the 30m+ people are suggesting, the fact he’s had half a season in prem will add to his price, to get 22m we got for Collins, esteve should be more than that

Selling him would be silly then. He doesn't seem the type to rock the boat and at the very worst I'd expect him to more or less maintain his value in a years time.

Having a left footed centre half of that quality is extremely rare and out of any of our players it's the one we should play hardball with. If we get promoted with him at centre half then he's immediately worth 40 to 50 million due to the scarcity of his type.

[KateR]

Both have been depreciating assets and will continue to be so-so makes sense, despite a small loss at present, as the loss will only worsen if we delay

Personally, as they are asking 5 million, I belie our pair are worth more than that, maybe not a lot more, but given the age I don't think it's a good deal.

[123EasyasBFC]

Selling him would be silly then. He doesn't seem the type to rock the boat and at the very worst I'd expect him to more or less maintain his value in a years time.

Having a left footed centre half of that quality is extremely rare and out of any of our players it's the one we should play hardball with. If we get promoted with him at centre half then he's immediately worth 40 to 50 million due to the scarcity of his type.

Issue is agents run football, if agent can get him a move back to a prem club then it’s one of those things. But I really hope he stays

[billyhamilton82]

Kilman is 27 and has over 100 premier league apps.

Non comparable transfer

Fully agree

Esteve has 59 appearances in the top league in France and half a season in the Premier League.

He made his debut in French Ligue One at the age of 19 and became a regular as well as an apperance for the French u21's.

At just 22 years of age he is 5 years younger and as such, much more potential.

His career trajectory is much steeper.

As is the case with any sale, he is only worth what someone will pay for him and if the seller is willing to sell at that price.

In this case it will be a lot of money but I still hope we don't sell.

[Stalbansclaret]

We surely have to sell players at this point as we have many more than required and also surely must need to cut out cloth financially . Given the other centre backs at the club , who are more than good enough for the Championship, I’d have thought we’d definitely let Esteve go and probably for a fair bit less than the £30m being dreamed about here.

[warksclaret]

The reason Killman went for £40m is that he is one of the stand out defenders in the PL and a club was happy to pay that fee. For me Cole Palmer is one of the stand out forwards in the PL-yet to reach 90 PL games, but if sold right now I suspect several clubs would be prepared to pay in excess of £70m for him

[warksclaret]

Personally, as they are asking 5 million, I belie our pair are worth more than that, maybe not a lot more, but given the age I don't think it's a good deal.

YOU may feel the two are worth more than £5m but other clubs obviously don't. Are you suggesting Matt Williams walks away from this deal when we fairly urgently need to reduce our squad size by about 7 or 8 players and the window closing is fast approaching

[blatherwickstattoos]

Esteve is a very good player who is premier league quality. But if we sell him and make profit we have some very good CB’s to step In. I can see him going to balance the books if we get 20 million plus

[warksclaret]

After this training camp we really need to start moving on the fringe players that will not feature in our team, to take the pressure off selling 4 or 5 of our top players that we should be keeping unless its an unbelievable price

[Goliath]

Issue is agents run football, if agent can get him a move back to a prem club then it’s one of those things. But I really hope he stays

To an extent yes but there's a time to play hardball and for me this is it. I think Leeds did similar last season with a few players and just sold them this summer instead. It nearly got them promotion.
He isn't established enough to down tools anyway, especially after 6 months at the club.
I get the idea of developing and selling on bur doing it after 6 months as a loan player and having only just signed him permanently is a bit extreme.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Contract length isn’t a reason for the low fees then either. Recent history says there isn’t much money across Europe.

What I would say esteve being 6ft 4, left footed and being pretty decent with his feet is hard to come by

Imagine arguing with yourself

[123EasyasBFC]

Imagine arguing with yourself

You have a weird obsession with me, me and Newcastle claret are two completely different people. You need some time away

[Commy]

https://www.givemesport.com/wolves-make ... me-esteve/

It says several Premier League clubs interested in Esteve. Value must surely go up if a few are after him.

[Vegas Claret]

the whole buy cheap sell for a big profit relies on us getting a big profit. Start the bidding at 30

[Quicknick]

It would do Esteve's development a lot of good to have one season in the Championship. If we let him go, then go up, we'll have to pay an awful lot to sign someone as good as him.

[AGENT_CLARET]

What was Twine and McNally combined, 6-8 mill tops?

Not sure that 8 mill would get Conway - it's good deal for both parties.

I think this is a good deal, Twine and McNally have had season's in the championship and not ripped up tree's and will probably only be worth a combined 8/10 million at the end of next season, on the other hand this lad if he does well could be 20/30+ million fingers crossed

[KateR]

YOU may feel the two are worth more than £5m but other clubs obviously don't. Are you suggesting Matt Williams walks away from this deal when we fairly urgently need to reduce our squad size by about 7 or 8 players and the window closing is fast approaching

yes, if necessary, it is only reducing the squad by one, however they need to look at what they value players at and decide from there, we all know we need to reduce the squad size, SP will have seen the squad in action, he will be deciding who he wants in that squad, if Twine (for example) is in his plans, then there's a price difference as to if he were not. Boro were not willing to pay the asking price upfront, I don't see why we should be making BC's desires that easy, it's a negotiation and we should be asking for the maximum, they have a player they need to get rid of also.