Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Chester Perry]

Well that is weird.

yep

[ElectroClaret]

I'd say getting our money back would be a great result. The signing was a disaster and the lad clearly wants out.

I'd certainly settle for getting our money back, given the circumstances where we are with this.
However, the signing needn't have been a disaster
had Kompany applied a little common sense and developed Trafford rather than throwing him in at the deep end, and compounded that idiocy by insisting on leaving him twisting in the wind and
continuing to play him when he clearly wasn't up to it.

[123EasyasBFC]

Not so, given what Matt Williams told the London Clarets at their AGM recently, where he was guest speaker. Trafford arrived with the expectation of being understudy, what occurred was totally down to Kompany.

He plenty of other things to say too, but I will leave that for the London Clarets to report

Matt Williams who said kompany was the best thing to happen to Burnley in their history

[Jakubclaret]

I'd certainly settle for getting our money back, given the circumstances where we are with this.
However, the signing needn't have been a disaster
had Kompany applied a little common sense and developed Trafford rather than throwing him in at the deep end, and compounded that idiocy by insisting on leaving him twisting in the wind and
continuing to play him when he clearly wasn't up to it.

I think it would have gone down in burnleys history as the first £20m keeper sat on the bench. People would have rightly been asking why has he shelled out that much to not play him. The fee set the precedent you don't spend them sort of sums not to have a player starting.

[KRBFC]

If true, I would be very disappointed with the price.

We've given him virtually a full Premier League season of experience and then to give him back for what is essentially the same money would be ridiculous.

Only one winner.....Man City and Pep.

That's if its true of course.

That’s not true

We paid £14m for Trafford.

[CoolClaret]

To be honest, I hope we never have to deal with City again in the way we have in the (recent) past.

I'm aware that we previously used (probably still do) their facilities for medical examinations and such, but in my opinion, they're a club that operates in a way that's completely at odds with how I believe a proper football club should operate.

[warksclaret]

If City are interested in buying Trafford back, then lets be grateful we have a club willing to take him.He is obviously ambitious, but was cruelly exposed last season by being thrown in the firing line and well and truly kept there.It not only killed his confidence but had the same impact on who we had defending each game. So badly managed by our departed manager. VK may have been a target for Bayern Munich, but I cannot see another PL manager having managed Trafford so badly as he did. I feel Trafford does not want to be here. We need to close this sad chapter and move on. As long as we don't lose money then I think we should be mightily relieved. I have no doubt Trafford will climb the ladder and one day play for his country

[Woodleyclaret]

Traff is not going to be a top keeper till he learns to dominate his box catching crosses and releasing the ball far quicker. His dithering caused panic amongst our back four and led to many goals leaked.
Another in the ever growing catalogue of VK errors was not playing Muric from the start in the Premier league.

[warksclaret]

Traff is not going to be a top keeper till he learns to dominate his box catching crosses and releasing the ball far quicker. His dithering caused panic amongst our back four and led to many goals leaked.
Another in the ever growing catalogue of VK errors was not playing Muric from the start in the Premier league.

Agreed-he needs to bulk up a bit and find the stewardship and coaching from someone like Billy Mercer, then you could see him develop into a very good GK

[Elizabeth]

Traff is not going to be a top keeper till he learns to dominate his box catching crosses and releasing the ball far quicker. His dithering caused panic amongst our back four and led to many goals leaked.
Another in the ever growing catalogue of VK errors was not playing Muric from the start in the Premier league.

He is very young and has plenty of time to do this. Sadly it was at our expense last season and that is a crime that should never have happened

[Claretnick]

He is very young and has plenty of time to do this. Sadly it was at our expense last season and that is a crime that should never have happened

Kompany's mismanagement of James last season was a disgrace and he should have been brought to task by the board. The club invested a huge sum in the young lad and he should have been looked after properly.
Whether SP can change things remains to be seen

[Cirrus_Minor]

Interesting!

If true, then we should snatch their hands off.

[fatboy47]

I think it'll have dawned on the board that we've been totally bent over insofar as JT is concerned...probably a result of VK's infatuation with Man City/Pep...and his wish to be seen as a big deal in their eyes.

Time will tell I suppose, but I think talk of £25-30m is for the birds.I'd be astounded if we got anything even close to break even on him.

[boatshed bill]

Kompany's mismanagement of James last season was a disgrace and he should have been brought to task by the board. The club invested a huge sum in the young lad and he should have been looked after properly.
Whether SP can change things remains to be seen

This whole Trafford thing is really odd. Did Pep sell him with the whole intention of buying him back giving us a small profit?

[Cooclaret]

This whole Trafford thing is really odd. Did Pep sell him with the whole intention of buying him back giving us a small profit?

Financial fair play, said it all along.

We saw it earlier in the window, City & Burnley were ahead of the curve.

[BigGaz]

I'd have a flutter on Ramsey going back to Villa if he has even a vaguely successful season and would wager he'd be back there already were it not for his injury for the same reason

[morninbob]

This whole Trafford thing is really odd. Did Pep sell him with the whole intention of buying him back giving us a small profit?

The buyback is 3 times what we paid, so 42m.

[roperclaret]

I'd have a flutter on Ramsey going back to Villa if he has even a vaguely successful season and would wager he'd be back there already were it not for his injury for the same reason

He would be. Wouldn’t surprise me if Delap and Hutchinson have gone to Ipswich for the same reason. Big book profit for City and Chelsea with a gentleman’s agreement to buy them back when Ipswich go down. Everyone wins including the players and agents.

[bobinho]

Traff is not going to be a top keeper till he learns to dominate his box catching crosses and releasing the ball far quicker. His dithering caused panic amongst our back four and led to many goals leaked.
Another in the ever growing catalogue of VK errors was not playing Muric from the start in the Premier league.

His “dithering” was put there by VK’s insistence we play out from the back, even when being pressed hard and fast. I’m sure he knew plenty of times when the long throw was on to break quickly, but held back to play to instructions.

Agree entirely Muric should have started the season.

[billyhamilton82]

I know the story isn’t true, but if it were and this was the popular take, I’d have to call it a day in my efforts to understand where people are coming from on here.

We’ve had a season of slating him and our general transfer policy, with folk speculating that we won’t be even able to make our money back, let alone make a profit.

Given the season he had, I’d say making our money back would be a win.

The basis of your argument is "with folk speculating"

Don't believe everything you hear, especially on here.

"We've had a season of slating him"

Who is "we"

Personally, I've never slated James Trafford, he's a very young keeper with a brilliant attitude and I'm sure he will go onto be a great keeper.

He shouldn't have been number one but it wasn't his fault the manager played him in front of Muric.

In the unlikely event the story is true personally I believe he is worth more than 20m Euros.

That's not "we" or "folk" just my own personal opinion.

[Vegas Claret]

Deal gone through as expected

[Pearcey]

Deal gone through as expected

Massive loss for Norwich. Cracking player and their main man.

[Row Z]

His “dithering” was put there by VK’s insistence we play out from the back, even when being pressed hard and fast. I’m sure he knew plenty of times when the long throw was on to break quickly, but held back to play to instructions.

Agree entirely Muric should have started the season.

Do you think then that Muric was playing under different instructions? Can’t see it myself, which therefore suggests it was Trafford’s inability to see and execute passes quickly which made him dither. For all the hype about Trafford he rarely pulled off outstanding saves and was far inferior at both set pieces and with his feet.

[TsarBomba]

Nothing concrete by the looks of it, but snippets on X suggests Trabzonspor are still in for Weghorst, but he is holding out for Ajax.

Could do with moving a few on this week.

[jrgbfc]

Nothing concrete by the looks of it, but snippets on X suggests Trabzonspor are still in for Weghorst, but he is holding out for Ajax.

Could do with moving a few on this week.

Definetely, the likes of Obafemi, Churlinov, Trafford, McNally and Twine all need moving on soon as possible. Probably another 1 or 2 i've forgotten about as well the squad is that big.

[TsarBomba]

John Percy- Leeds contact Norwich over deal for Jonathan Rowe.

[boatshed bill]

Do you think then that Muric was playing under different instructions? Can’t see it myself, which therefore suggests it was Trafford’s inability to see and execute passes quickly which made him dither. For all the hype about Trafford he rarely pulled off outstanding saves and was far inferior at both set pieces and with his feet.

I suppose Muric wasn't dithering when Calvert-Lewin closed him down then. It was all down to VK

[Ric_C]

Muric getting rave reviews by Ipswich fans in pre season by all accounts. Think we will miss him more than any other player this season

[Swizzlestick]

Muric getting rave reviews by Ipswich fans in pre season by all accounts. Think we will miss him more than any other player this season

I saw the highlight reel his fan account did of the game, and while he played some great passes, he also played some that put the recipient in serious trouble and would have been punished in no time in a proper PL game. I’m a massive Muric fan but they’ll see the good and bad of him this season.

[Row x]

Muric getting rave reviews by Ipswich fans in pre season by all accounts. Think we will miss him more than any other player this season

I doubt it.
We'd miss Berge far more should he leave

[ClaretH]

Etienne Green in for a medical today.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I am feeling less optimistic that the pointless Muric v JT debates will end if we also sell JT in this window....

[AfloatinClaret]

FLW reporting that Churlinov is in talks to go somewhere in Poland

[Steddyman]

Muric getting rave reviews by Ipswich fans in pre season by all accounts. Think we will miss him more than any other player this season

I already miss him more than any other player. He will be a big loss to us.

[ArmchairDetective]

Etienne Green in for a medical today.

Not heard of him before. Seems to have come from nowhere. Though I did delete twitter last week to switch off from current events so that might explain that.

English keeper in France. Do we know if he's any good?

[ClaretAL]

IS he coming as a number 1? Just read this article from January Last Year and he has quite a pedigree in him already.

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... enne-exit/

[RVclaret]

I highly doubt a Ligue 2 (roundabout League One level) number 2 would be joining a promotion chasing favourite in the Championship as number 1. Particularly when we’ve got a promotion winning keeper already with us. But, I may be wrong.

More importantly, does this guy count towards our homegrown quota or not?

[ClaretAL]

I highly doubt a Ligue 2 (roundabout League One level) number 2 would be joining a promotion chasing favourite in the Championship as number 1. Particularly when we’ve got a promotion winning keeper already with us. But, I may be wrong.

More importantly, does this guy count towards our homegrown quota or not?

It has so many parallels with Trafford, even England U21, and making his name on a penalty save

[Boxy]

High pedigree. Had some injutues what derailed his career somewhat. He will be coming in as backup. If he can rebuild his career he could easily start

[ArmchairDetective]

Looks like he's played more games in Ligue 1 than Ligue 2. Guessing he was relegated with Saint Etienne then won promotion again this year back to Ligue 1.

[SuperClarets]

One can only assume that Trafford has not played because he was late back to training - same with Amdouni.

Hdlacky was not wearing the number 1 shirt last night if that is any indication that JT is still our number 1.

[RVclaret]

Don’t think Green qualifies as homegrown under EFL rules. Given our really low hg numbers in the squad I thought a hg keeper being on the bench was an easy 1/7 in the match day squad. It appears he moved to France aged 4 so won’t have been coached by a UK based club for 3 years prior to turning 21.

[CnBtruntru]

Don’t think Green qualifies as homegrown under EFL rules. Given our really low hg numbers in the squad I thought a hg keeper being on the bench was an easy 1/7 in the match day squad. It appears he moved to France aged 4 so won’t have been coached by a UK based club for 3 years prior to turning 21.

Hasn't he already been with the England under 21 squad, surely he is then British, also the fact he was born in the UK!

[RVclaret]

Hasn't he already been with the England under 21 squad, surely he is then British, also the fact he was born in the UK!

Irrelevant under EFL rules it seems.

[randomclaret2]

Don’t think Green qualifies as homegrown under EFL rules. Given our really low hg numbers in the squad I thought a hg keeper being on the bench was an easy 1/7 in the match day squad. It appears he moved to France aged 4 so won’t have been coached by a UK based club for 3 years prior to turning 21.

Isnt it 9 substitutes in the Championship ?

[bumba]

Hasn't he already been with the England under 21 squad, surely he is then British, also the fact he was born in the UK!

Think it's more about being in the British academies for at least 3 years by the age of 21 than where you was born

[RVclaret]

Isnt it 9 substitutes in the Championship ?

It is. But still, our squad is quite low on hg players. What I meant is 7 hg players need to be in a match day squad of 20. It’s actually not that easy to do for us as it is, let alone taking another out (let’s say Trafford goes and Green replaces him on the bench).

[randomclaret2]

It is. But still, our squad is quite low on hg players. What I meant is 7 hg players need to be in a match day squad of 20. It’s actually not that easy to do for us as it is, let alone taking another out (let’s say Trafford goes and Green replaces him on the bench).

Aha, got it

[Boss Hogg]

Nothing concrete by the looks of it, but snippets on X suggests Trabzonspor are still in for Weghorst, but he is holding out for Ajax.

Could do with moving a few on this week.

He will want to be in the easiest league ( and slowest) for the most money. The sooner we get him sold the better.

[Blyclaret]

Weghorst was probably one of our worst signing … as in his performances and personality