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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:21 pm

Tudor is exciting at least!
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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:32 pm

I remember his dad John , great pro at Newcastle United.

Exciting link this.
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:32 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:32 pm
I remember his dad John , great pro at Newcastle United.

Exciting link this.
1st exciting link so far.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:38 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:21 pm
Tudor is exciting at least!
Exciting name with a clear tactical style and knowledge of lots of different leagues

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:41 pm

I’d posted on page 42 that he’d resigned as lazio manager, never thought they’d be linked…

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Re: Next manager

Post by RetroClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:48 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:41 pm
I’d posted on page 42 that he’d resigned as lazio manager, never thought they’d be linked…
Why not? We are massive compared to Lazio :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:07 pm

RetroClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:48 pm
Why not? We are massive compared to Lazio :lol:
Lazio are a big club. We are not bigger that lazio.

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:08 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:39 pm
15 years ago , so what
In that case then let’s take Coyle back.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:13 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:07 pm
Lazio are a big club. We are not bigger that lazio.
They are (by far) but didn't Amdouni chose Burnley over Lazio?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Walt » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:14 pm

Isn't that website a load of garbage? Can't see this one having much truth but who knows.

Tudor's record isn't all that either and he seems a bit disruptive from what I've read.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:14 pm

And the link is the footballleagueworld site - I wouldn’t be getting over excited

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Re: Next manager

Post by JR1882 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:00 am
No chance.
Managed Galatasaray, Udinese, Marseille and Lazio I can't see him struggling for a job that much that he takes a championship job so soon after leaving Lazio.
It can be seen as a fast track to the premier league if he can take us up. I think we would pay not far behind some of those clubs despite the fact they are giants.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm

FWIW, I was told there were two foreign managers in the five whose names hadn’t become public. Not sure if one was him or not.

Rosenior wasn’t part of the other three though and he looks to be part of the process so really not sure my info is in any way accurate.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:14 pm
And the link is the footballleagueworld site - I wouldn’t be getting over excited
Have you heard any more Tony?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:19 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:00 am
No chance.
Managed Galatasaray, Udinese, Marseille and Lazio I can't see him struggling for a job that much that he takes a championship job so soon after leaving Lazio.
It's not just any old championship job though is it?

A club expected to bounce straight back with lots of players far too good for the level.
12 months to get you settled in for the Premier league.

A club that pays managers quite well.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Carlos the Great » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:20 pm

Scott Parker seems to have gone to odds on favourite ? Has he had an interview ? He comes across quite intelligent so who knows

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Re: Next manager

Post by Cap » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:27 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:14 pm
And the link is the footballleagueworld site - I wouldn’t be getting over excited
The footballleagueworld site is quoting this guy.
Don't know how reliable he is though.
https://x.com/TomCollomosse/status/1801 ... 2eONA&s=19

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:27 pm

Carlos the Great wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:20 pm
Scott Parker seems to have gone to odds on favourite ? Has he had an interview ? He comes across quite intelligent so who knows
5/6 with SkyBet. Funnily enough Lampard has gone into 1/3 at Sunderland. Not sure there’s anything to be read into them apart from they are on shortlists.

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Re: Next manager

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:41 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 11:00 am
No chance.
Managed Galatasaray, Udinese, Marseille and Lazio I can't see him struggling for a job that much that he takes a championship job so soon after leaving Lazio.
From a financial point of view, I'd bet we'd pay our managers more, or at least as much as, his previous clubs. He'd also have the option to use us as a stepping stone to bigger clubs in England if things go well.

PS, I know nothing about him or whether he'd be good for us as a club. My point is his previous clubs, whilst prestigious, are in a not too dissimilar financial playing field.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:48 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:18 pm
It can be seen as a fast track to the premier league if he can take us up. I think we would pay not far behind some of those clubs despite the fact they are giants.
What good is he to us then? We need a settled management system in place not somebody using us as a stepping stone.
Can't see us paying anywhere close to Marseille and Lazio in the championship, rumoured to be about €8 million 2 year deal at Marseille

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:51 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:19 pm
It's not just any old championship job though is it?

A club expected to bounce straight back with lots of players far too good for the level.
12 months to get you settled in for the Premier league.

A club that pays managers quite well.
I'd said we've paid two managers above average in our entire history.
We still don't know if we've players too good for that level.....it's a massive overhaul needed.....players all bought for a different style to the new managers......majority young and inexperienced in that league

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Re: Next manager

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:05 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:48 pm
What good is he to us then? We need a settled management system in place not somebody using us as a stepping stone.
Can't see us paying anywhere close to Marseille and Lazio in the championship, rumoured to be about €8 million 2 year deal at Marseille

We are always going to be a stepping stone, like it or not. If big clubs are after our manager, it usually means he's done something right (this is probably why a Director of Football or similar makes sense re continuity).

Lampard, Parker, Robins, and indeed any manager worth his salt, will all see us as that

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Re: Next manager

Post by Selby Claret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 12:21 pm
Tudor is exciting at least!
10 managerial jobs in 11 years

His estate agent must be his best friend

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Re: Next manager

Post by Raconteur » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:15 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:48 pm
What good is he to us then? We need a settled management system in place not somebody using us as a stepping stone.
Can't see us paying anywhere close to Marseille and Lazio in the championship, rumoured to be about €8 million 2 year deal at Marseille
I do tend to agree as such but for us to attract top managers/coaches and players, surely we have to market ourselves as a kind of stepping stone (within reason)
Unfortunately, as a club, we are not the final destination, we are just part of the journey?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Raconteur » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:16 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pm
10 managerial jobs in 11 years

His estate agent must be his best friend
He could also live off all the signing on fees.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:21 pm

His agent could well be pushing his name to us to make another club across Europe speed up taking him on

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:24 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:51 pm
I'd said we've paid two managers above average in our entire history.
We still don't know if we've players too good for that level.....it's a massive overhaul needed.....players all bought for a different style to the new managers......majority young and inexperienced in that league
We still have most of the too good to be in the championship players that won the league plus all the players we signed. All of whom have too much pace for championship players.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:25 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:21 pm
His agent could well be pushing his name to us to make another club across Europe speed up taking him on
Or he sees us as a strong way to enter the English game.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:29 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:48 pm
What good is he to us then? We need a settled management system in place not somebody using us as a stepping stone.
Can't see us paying anywhere close to Marseille and Lazio in the championship, rumoured to be about €8 million 2 year deal at Marseille
Vk was on £2.5m in champ and €5m per year in prem.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:42 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pm
10 managerial jobs in 11 years

His estate agent must be his best friend
That is a little concerning mind, I just like that sort of profile.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:48 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:25 pm
Or he sees us as a strong way to enter the English game.
Could well be the case also.

I think the name is so random there is something in it from either side

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:53 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:24 pm
We still have most of the too good to be in thechampionship players that won the league plus all the players we signed. All of whom have too much pace for championship players.
Pace doesn't win games, neither does an unsettled squad.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:54 pm

Raconteur wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:15 pm
I do tend to agree as such but for us to attract top managers/coaches and players, surely we have to market ourselves as a kind of stepping stone (within reason)
Unfortunately, as a club, we are not the final destination, we are just part of the journey?
I agree with that but he's 46 years old and managed some top teams, he's going to be wanted at other clubs a good 6 months with us and he could end up leaving in January

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Re: Next manager

Post by IPAclaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:57 pm

Off topic I know but...

Does bumba ever say anything positive about us ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:06 pm

Selby Claret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:12 pm
10 managerial jobs in 11 years

His estate agent must be his best friend
And for that very reason I wouldn't want him

Not what we need, people outraged because Kompany dared to leave after 2 yrs, this guy wouldn't be here that long.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:08 pm

The selection of a new manager is getting as long winded and tedious as as a Vincent Kompany play out from the back tippy tappy and back to the keeper attack.

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Re: Next manager

Post by RetroClaret » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:17 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 1:07 pm
Lazio are a big club. We are not bigger that lazio.
I'm aware
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Re: Next manager

Post by DCWat » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:23 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:29 pm
Vk was on £2.5m in champ and €5m per year in prem.
Wonder why we paid him in pounds in the Championship and Euros in the Premier League ;)

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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:27 pm

I just hope we don’t pay an enormous salary and a long contract just because someone is a name. We were lucky getting compo for VK but most managers don’t last the length of their contract. Parker would be alright for the Championship but is a huge risk for the PL if we get there, as was VK.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quickenthetempo » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:35 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:53 pm
Pace doesn't win games, neither does an unsettled squad.
Every time I watched Leeds or Leicester last season their pace was just too much for the opposition.

If pace didn't matter Robbie Blake would have played for top clubs all his life.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Dark Cloud » Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:37 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:08 pm
The selection of a new manager is getting as long winded and tedious as as a Vincent Kompany play out from the back tippy tappy and back to the keeper attack.
Tbf I'd sooner we took a while and gave ourselves more chance of getting it right, but having said that I wouldn't want it to drag on too long into the transfer window.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:53 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 3:35 pm
Every time I watched Leeds or Leicester last season their pace was just too much for the opposition.

If pace didn't matter Robbie Blake would have played for top clubs all his life.
Robbie Blake walks in to this team though

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:58 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:53 pm
Robbie Blake walks in to this team though
Literally
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Re: Next manager

Post by Longsider » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:04 pm

Come on. We have got to go all out to get a manager with the name Igor.

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Re: Next manager

Post by fatboy47 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:07 pm

Longsider wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:04 pm
Come on. We have got to go all out to get a manager with the name Igor.
Good kinda name for a baddy in Scooby Doo.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:10 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 2:53 pm
Pace doesn't win games, neither does an unsettled squad.
An unsettled squad is something no club wants; can't say the same for pace. Getting from one end of the pitch to the other speedily or just gaining an advantage through it over a few yards is a potent weapon in a teams armoury.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Stan Tastic » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:56 pm

I thought people would be interested to see a half-time team talk from Scott Parker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNHIQxNlHpQ
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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:57 pm

Silkyskills1 wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:10 pm
An unsettled squad is something no club wants; can't say the same for pace. Getting from one end of the pitch to the other speedily or just gaining an advantage through it over a few yards is a potent weapon in a teams armoury.
How did that weapon work out for us last season?

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Re: Next manager

Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:07 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:53 pm
Robbie Blake walks in to this team though
No he doesn’t.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hipper » Fri Jun 14, 2024 6:09 pm

Stan Tastic wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2024 5:56 pm
I thought people would be interested to see a half-time team talk from Scott Parker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNHIQxNlHpQ
It worked they got a second half goal to win 1-0 and were promoted.

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