Ashes Thread 2023

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:04 pm

I think that we will be seeing another deceleration

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:05 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:02 pm
Should get the afternoon session in

Getting the weather from BBC, obviously it can be wrong, but looks like the weather front will be pushing in from around 3 this afternoon and then will stay around until 7 this evening.

claretburns · Post by **claretburns** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:06 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:03 pm
I’d get a bet on if you think that and make a fortune! The draw is unlikely.

Went to place a bet yesterday actually but it was 9/4 for the draw, just checked now and it is 9/2, not the best odds.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:08 pm

Stokes has redeemed himself with all his tactics coming off this morning. Which is vital to keep everyone backing his ways 100%.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:10 pm

claretburns wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:06 pm
Went to place a bet yesterday actually but it was 9/4 for the draw, just checked now and it is 9/2, not the best odds.

4.5/1 in a 3 result match are great odds if you think it's very likely.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:19 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:08 pm
Stokes has redeemed himself with all his tactics coming off this morning. Which is vital to keep everyone backing his ways 100%.

That’s a very fair comment - quite ingenious really because it was looking like Australia could post 450.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:25 pm

I thought England were brilliant for most of that session.

Worried about Ali’s finger injury as it looks like spin could be the key to winning this test.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:37 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:08 pm
Stokes has redeemed himself with all his tactics coming off this morning. Which is vital to keep everyone backing his ways 100%.

I think you just have to let him get on with it. He makes decisions that astonish all of us but he's very much in credit since becoming England captain. We are so much more positive now and he gets so much credit for that.

simonclaret · Post by **simonclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:53 pm

Winviz has a draw on 5% at the moment...

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:45 pm

Longsidelenny1882 wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 12:51 pm
Please tell me how you get foakes and bairstow in the same test team upthecolne

You leave one of the other batters out. It's not rocket science.

Although I suspect the option England will take will be to leave Moeen out and use Root more.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:48 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:23 am
Harry Brook been in outstanding form in the past year though.

Sorry, I didn't mean the specific number in the order, more as a specialist batter. So not Bairstow or Brook, but Bairstow or any of the specialist batters.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:39 pm

Aussies 0 shame as per with their appeals

Could probably do with rain calling the rest of today off - horrible to bat in

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:41 pm

On my TV it looked like Green dropped that!

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:41 pm

That looked like it could have jumped out of his hand to me.

Ball doing something for the first time in this test thanks to overhead conditions.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:41 pm

Right on cue

- ball is nipping about, terrible light. Need to hang in here

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:44 pm

Uh oh.

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:45 pm

They’re sniffing blood here - can’t give another wicket away

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 3:53 pm

Smith needs to reign it in , obnoxious ****

IPAclaret · Post by **IPAclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:04 pm

Well that was frustrating... weather changes and aides the bowlers just when England start batting, and the Aussies take 2 quick wickets

Worrying that Ali might not be able to bowl at them in their 2nd innings

And yes, Smith really is a little rat.

expoultryboy · Post by **expoultryboy** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:08 pm

According to a couple of mates who are there , it really did seem dark and the umpires should of took them off earlier . No excuse for a poor shot by Duckett again . I know it's " Bazball " but at times you can leave the ball outside your off stump .

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:13 pm

IPAclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:04 pm
Well that was frustrating... weather changes and aides the bowlers just when England start batting, and the Aussies take 2 quick wickets

Worrying that Ali might not be able to bowl at them in their 2nd innings

Ali's finger injury will be irrelevant if we don't make many runs in this innings, (since he would be unlikely to get a bowl anyway).
It's a shame that the weather may well be turning the match strongly in Australia's favour.

IPAclaret · Post by **IPAclaret** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:01 pm

[quote=nil_desperandum
Ali's finger injury will be irrelevant if we don't make many runs in this innings, (since he would be unlikely to get a bowl anyway).
It's a shame that the weather may well be turning the match strongly in Australia's favour.
[/quote]

The pitch is expected to turn more as the days go by especially the 5th day when the Aussies will be batting. Ali could be crucial.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:24 pm

IPAclaret wrote: ↑
Sun Jun 18, 2023 5:01 pm
[quote=nil_desperandum
Ali's finger injury will be irrelevant if we don't make many runs in this innings, (since he would be unlikely to get a bowl anyway).
It's a shame that the weather may well be turning the match strongly in Australia's favour.

The pitch is expected to turn more as the days go by especially the 5th day when the Aussies will be batting. Ali could be crucial.
[/quote]

Of course, but only if we have a total to bowl at.
That's my point.
The first session tomorrow is crucial.
If we lose a couple early then we could get rolled over quite quickly. We may not get to Day 5.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:06 am

15 scored already this morning with Root playing a couple of ramp shots.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:10 am

This red ball cricket is crazy, I thought I was watching 20/20

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 am

Clive 1960 wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:10 am
This red ball cricket is crazy, I thought I was watching 20/20

You never know what’s going to happen now with this England team.

32 added in first 15 minutes.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:16 am

The on drive and cover driver by Root suggest he's in great touch.
We might just be in for something special today.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:20 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:16 am
The on drive and cover driver by Root suggest he's in great touch.
We might just be in for something special today.

Two ramp shots and then two wonderful shots from him. He really is a world class batsman.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:32 am

Pope gone for 14, bowled by Cummins with a brilliant yorker.

England 77/3.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:33 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:20 am
Two ramp shots and then two wonderful shots from him. He really is a world class batsman.

The on drive along the floor has always been the biggest indicator of a man in form for me.
The natural shot is to raise it in the air, letting the bottom hand take over.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:34 am

Whenever I watch Pope I always think he’s way too easy to get out. Not improved much in that sense. Could it be his place under threat with Bairstow moving into 3 and Foakes coming in?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:36 am

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:33 am
The on drive along the floor has always been the biggest indicator of a man in form for me.
The natural shot is to raise it in the air, letting the bottom hand take over.

That’s the difference between the best and the rest.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:50 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:34 am
Whenever I watch Pope I always think he’s way too easy to get out. Not improved much in that sense. Could it be his place under threat with Bairstow moving into 3 and Foakes coming in?

Got to wonder whether they are debating drafting in Hains for the next test?

Is there a batsmen in better form anywhere in the country?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:56 am

England now 108/3.

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:59 am

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:15 am
You never know what’s going to happen now with this England team.

32 added in first 15 minutes.

It's great to watch when it comes off that's for sure .

karatekid · Post by **karatekid** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:12 pm

How is the track playing? Still flat or showing some signs of grip for the spinners?

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:17 pm

Root stumped for 46.

129/4.

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:18 pm

Root annoyed with himself there

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 12:38 pm

Poor from Root after getting himself in, just hope it doesn't come back and bite us , but looking at forecast for tomorrow with rain forecast for much of the day it could be a entertaining draw.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:01 pm

uh oh

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:02 pm

150/5 with Brook gone

Clive 1960 · Post by **Clive 1960** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:09 pm

That declaration on day one could come back and bite us now but if that's the way forward against the no1 team in the world then it's brave.

Whitgord · Post by **Whitgord** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:14 pm

I’m beginning to worry whether this game will get to day 5.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:17 pm

Bairstow given out - he’s reviewed.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm

Not out

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:18 pm

What a huge moment that could be.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:19 pm

Thought that was high and wide at the time.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:21 pm

155/5 at lunch

Ric_C · Post by **Ric_C** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:28 pm

How's the pitch playing? Anything over 200 and we have a chance? Need 250 plus minimum I think

weather forecast is iffy tomorrow and might be good for swing bowling

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Mon Jun 19, 2023 1:29 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jun 19, 2023 11:34 am
Whenever I watch Pope I always think he’s way too easy to get out. Not improved much in that sense. Could it be his place under threat with Bairstow moving into 3 and Foakes coming in?

He has been made vice captain, not a chance he's dropped in this series.