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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Longsider » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:46 pm

I've been absent recently. We will win this one. UTC

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:47 pm

Impressed with Berge tonight. Dominated midfield. Take Tresor off and play a speedy winger. Take your pick. Muric gives defense confidence he’s like an extra defender. Overall we have played some pretty stuff but never remotely looked like scoring. Been more like a friendly than a cup tie so far. Think Everton will step it up second half

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:47 pm

Everton will up their game 2nd half
Hope we can

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

Carwin261 wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:44 pm
And do you think Trafford would have come 10 yds off his line for that cross ? and you’ve got to admit whichever camp your in regarding the keeper,we’ve passed the ball out of defence better than all season.
Trafford wouldn’t have been dumb enough to come for that cross. We look loads better passing out from the back though - much faster snd sharper

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:44 pm
Strongly agree with….half of this!

Tresor and JBL have been decent for me - easily Tresor’s best game so far. Not everything or even the majority of things have come off for him but he’s been constantly involved at least. JBL has got round the back a few times and been very busy.

Can’t agree on Amdouni instead of Redmond either, personally. Amdouni has been awful for weeks whether in the ten or through the middle, Redmond has been very bright tonight. I think if Beyer, Ekdal and Foster were in this side you’d be looking at our best eleven.

Hugely impressed with Delcroix, and Vitinho has been surprisingly good too.
Some fair points on JBL/Tresor but I’m talking creativity, neither have created a chance yet.

Amdouni has not played in the role Redmond is tonight (part of a front 2) all season. I think he would thrive in this role alongside Foster.

Delcroix is a far more technically capable player than Taylor and if there are calls for Muric to start for our playing out game, then there should be some for him too!

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Longsider » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

What reception have our fans given SD?

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by spt_claret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:39 pm
We look far better playing out with Muric but his attempt for the goal and the cross show why Trafford starts
Not sure how you can blame him for the goal, unmarked 6-8 yard header into the corner. Diving for it just is for show at that point.

He flapped the cross but Trafford's done that a few times himself, and he had a teammate get in his way too. Trafford is definitely a solid shot stopper but he has positional questions for long shots and corners and Murics composure has let us build play from our half so much better. Everton haven't tested enough to say if he's as good at shot stopping yet but if we want to be a slow build, possession and passing, attack minded team we need a keeper who does what he does- everyone said last year how Pope wouldn't work as well in this system and even if Pope's the far better keeper I was inclined to agree. Trafford's attributes are lent to a more compact direct and counter attacking team which we aren't trying and not sure have the personnel for.
It's the same reason in reverse why I don't think Cork's our midfield answer. He's composed, he's experienced,he reads the game well, but whether it's a 4231 or 433, or system needs the midfielders to be a lot more mobile and dynamic than he is. Gudmundsson might not exactly be Kante but he's got more legs than Cork now, Jack was getting run ragged and resorting to tactical stopper bookings loads in the Championship he would be outran by every Prem midfielder. As the deepest midfielder in a compact counter attacking 433 or 451 he might be up to it still but again, not our system

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:39 pm
We look far better playing out with Muric but his attempt for the goal and the cross show why Trafford starts
Stop trolling 😂

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by FCBurnley » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm

fidelcastro wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:42 pm
I'll bet you were moaning he was off his line for Bournemouth's second! :roll:
I sure was. Just as I would be if Muric did the same

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Vino blanco » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:49 pm

Much better first half performance than of late. Some of the football was reminiscent of last season, with Muric, Berge, Laarsen and Delcroix all playing well. I feel much safer and relaxed with Muric in goal, whilst Berge has looked like a PL midfielder. We can get a result here.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by roperclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:49 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:39 pm
Not sure I agree regarding Muric

Think it’s more to do with how Everton are set up.

They are doing what Burnley did under Dyche. They are letting us have the ball in areas where we can’t hurt them. Then playing in transitions to counter us.

The defence are struggling like hell with directness.
You’ll never agree. But you’re wrong. Anyone who’s ever played at a half decent level can see how much faster his decision making is, and that he doesn’t have to take 2 touches before deciding which pass to play. We are so much more fluid with him in the team than with Trafford right now.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:49 pm

West ham 3 up

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by SalisburyClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:50 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:48 pm
Stop trolling 😂
Never have, never will.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by spt_claret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:51 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:43 pm
Can we change the subject-I have no access to the game or streams so can someone tell me the two CH's tonight and who is partnering Cullen in a more defensive midfield role
Dakhil RCB
O'Shea LCB
Berge in RDM looking decent

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:52 pm

We did everything well apart from leaving Tarks unmarked first half

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:53 pm

I know its offside but O'Shea has to be stronger there.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by 1968claret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:53 pm

On the plus side. I am in Newcastle on business. In a pub watchibg the man u newvastle game. When they realised i am a claret they have taken pity on me. On my 5th pint from them :D
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:53 pm

Man U losing at home to Newcastle reserves won't go down well.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by warksclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:53 pm

spt_claret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:51 pm
Dakhil RCB
O'Shea LCB
Berge in RDM looking decent
Much appreciated Spt Claret

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by alboclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:54 pm

This tressor fella let them off the hook every time he is involved. Either gives them ball or fouls them

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by warksclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:55 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:53 pm
Man U losing at home to Newcastle reserves won't go down well.
2-0 now

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:56 pm

I’d get Amdouni on for Trésor I think, get him playing centrally

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:56 pm

2-0

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Carlos the Great » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Sounds like Muric is playing well and giving confidence to his defence .. Am I allowed say that ? /:

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jos » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Rats

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by burnleymik » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Want to see if Tresor can offer anymore on his more natural left side. He isn't doing too much so far.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Two set pieces. Predictable.
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Easy peasy for them
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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Rubbish from AAD and the defence

Horrific set piece defending

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

FFS
What a load of shite

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

Bugger 2

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Cirrus_Minor » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm

We have to score 3 goals every game

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by JimmyRobbo » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

So soft, defensively. Free header, again at the back post. Was it Cullen v Tarks, again?

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by RVclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Cullen marking Tarkowski hahahaha

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:57 pm
Rubbish from AAD and the defence

Horrific set piece defending
What do you usually say? Stuck on the line

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Zonal marking can get in the bin. Rubbish

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by JLR81 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

and thats that. see you saturday, kids

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by IanMcL » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Too small defenders

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by simonclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Cullen looks poor against premier league opposition.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm
What do you usually say? Stuck on the line
You’re a clown

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Was that Cullen attempting to mark at the back post

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by warksclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Who was the defender that offered absolutely no challenge on Tarks. Just seen it on SKY. Shocking

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Darthlaw » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

AAD weak as **** to concede the corner and they score from it. AWOL defending but looked like Muric was being held on the line.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by bfcmatt » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm

Fair depressing really, we defend like school boys

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by jedi_master » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

Al-Dalhil and O’Shea are just a bomb scare.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:58 pm
You’re a clown
Haha it was toungue in cheek

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Buxtonclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

Truely awful defending :(

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Murger » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

Weak as **** defensively.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by Pickles » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

We're all sorts of horrendous. All over the pitch from front to back, from left to right. And particularly defending and attacking set pieces. We've been better tonight but it really is the faintest of praise.

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Re: Everton match thread

Post by ksrclaret » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:59 pm

It'll be alright once the lads have had their 100th coaching session.

'kin embarrassing, school boy stuff.

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