Clarets vs West Ham

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:22 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:07 pm
The newly promoted excuse doesn’t cut it anymore
Why does it not? Newly promoted sides struggle in this league generally.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by KRBFC » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:25 pm

Petersa wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:12 pm
Rubbish..a forward who at least was an outlet, Cullen replaced JBG for the MOM upto that point, dreadful tactics and did Cullen contrjbute anything? not that I saw
You said we needed to shore it up, he took off attacking players and brought on defensive minded ones like Cullen and it probably cost us the game.

The truth is, you were always going to slag VK off if we lost.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by THEWELLERNUT70 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:27 pm

I think we'll have a growing number of twitchy investors

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:25 pm
You said we needed to shore it up, he took off attacking players and brought on defensive minded ones like Cullen and it probably cost us the game.

The truth is, you were always going to slag VK off if we lost.
Let’s be honest VK should be sacked after this dreadful start
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:27 pm

Ampth7 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:20 pm
No doubt about it, we are bang in trouble! Leaking goals for fun and don’t really look like scoring makes for a disaster which is happening every game now.

Short term, I can’t see us avoiding relegation now. Longer term, do we stick or twist with the manager in the hope that we bounce back again the following season having learned some valuable lessons? Sacking VK now may or may not save our season, and who would we get to replace him?

Either way, I wouldn’t want to be in Pace’s position right now!!
Get rid put Jacko in charge for 5-10 games, if that doesnt work think about a new manager fairly quick, spent far too much money on dross this year been an abject failure im afraid. Quite concerned how we pay off these obligations to buy in the championship.
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Casper2 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:28 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:22 pm
Why does it not? Newly promoted sides struggle in this league generally.
Luton have 5points more than us and spent nothing!
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by ClaretAL » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:28 pm

Kompany should have held with what we had on the pitch. He lost us the game with this subs. We lost the physicality experience and pace. Koleosho was pining them back, as soon as he went off they 40 yards up the pitch. JBG was controlling the game with Jay Rod showing their experience. All on Kompany that one for me
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by bfcjg » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:31 pm

The subs changed the game it was as simple as that.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by cockneyclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:34 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:28 pm
Luton have 5points more than us and spent nothing!
Because they have fight and want to stay up

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Petersa » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:37 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:25 pm
You said we needed to shore it up, he took off attacking players and brought on defensive minded ones like Cullen and it probably cost us the game.

The truth is, you were always going to slag VK off if we lost.
I most certainly was not, Cullen did nothing, Ramsey replaced JBG as I said IMHO was MOM until his departure. Cork is supposedly injured but on crutches a capitulation like that would not have happrned IMHO of course

KRBFC are you happy with what is being served up? What is your master plan?

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by SGr » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:46 pm

JimmyRobbo wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:00 pm
Were you one of those saying we would fall through the leagues 2 seasons ago?
Don’t recall saying this ever but happy enough for someone to prove me wrong.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:48 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:18 pm
He’s the last person anyone should want at our club
That is a very strange comment.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by jojomk1 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:59 pm

Petersa wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 5:37 pm
I most certainly was not, Cullen did nothing, Ramsey replaced JBG as I said IMHO was MOM until his departure. Cork is supposedly injured but on crutches a capitulation like that would not have happrned IMHO of course

KRBFC are you happy with what is being served up? What is your master plan?
Don't know what game you were watching

Ramsey replaced Amdouni in the 73rd minute when we were still winning

I'm no Cullen fan but he would have been the better option to shore up central midfield at that point

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Westleigh » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:05 pm

That’s the second time this season that Koleoshoe has had the fullback on a yellow card ,last time VK swapped him to the other wing today he subbed him ( football brain Vincent Kompany?) if he has he’s not using it very well.
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:07 pm

Westleigh wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:05 pm
That’s the second time this season that Koleoshoe has had the fullback on a yellow card ,last time VK swapped him to the other wing today he subbed him ( football brain Vincent Kompany?) if he has he’s not using it very well.
Good point Westleigh - baffling.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:07 pm

I used to think that international breaks were a pain in the ass. Now I am beginning to think they are the best weeks of the season !
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by FCBurnley » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:09 pm

Just imagine if Antonio and Bowen had been fit
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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by Somethingfishy » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:15 pm

That has floored me.

Any other team and West Ham are on the end of a nailed on defeat. It perfectly encapsulated why we are doomed. We battled really well for the majority and a more direct team would have had them in trouble. We looked like we wanted to walk the ball in.There were also times when we failed to get enough men in the box in very promising situations.
Then his substitutions. Zaroury for Koleosho I can understand purely from a fresh legs point of view...but bringing the diminutive and lightweight Cullen on and pushing Brownhill (who I thought had his best game of the season today) out wide was utterly bizarre and was the turning point. JBG for Bruun Larsen was the swap..again for fresh legs.

That ending today was a major psychological blow not just for the fans but more worryingly...the players. They will need some picking up from this.

The West Ham fans heading home to London will be seriously wondering how they won that. They were dreadful...and still won.

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Re: Clarets vs West Ham

Post by warksclaret » Sat Nov 25, 2023 6:23 pm

Pressure on VK must be immense-however is this now affecting and clouding his judgement to the point we are getting worse. Three chances to beat Palace, WHU and Bournemouth and all three with weakened teams beat us. Having worshipped this guy for the best part of a season, it must be harder by the game, for the Board not to step in, particularly when you benchmark us with Luton

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