Russia Invades

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:08 pm

Oligarchs (incl Abramovich) sanctions by UK now being reported by Reuters.

https://twitter.com/reutersuk/status/15 ... 60930?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:13 pm

Oh dear, MOD uses wrong photo for oligarch sanctioned… not a good look.

https://twitter.com/tobyontv/status/150 ... 79747?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:16 pm

Putin’s new law could cost $10 b. Worth of jets report Reuters

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 57666?s=21

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:18 pm

https://twitter.com/Ankita20200/status/ ... 4255051776

If you've not seen this yet, its a proper tear jerker - Ukrainian girl singing "Let it go" in Russian in a bomb shelter in Kharki'v

Dy1geo · Post by **Dy1geo** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:27 pm

Excellent piece by the brilliant Ros Hawkins on the BBC about rising food prices.

Russia banning exports of key ingredients for fertiliser on top of the cost of gas needed to produce it will hit food yields and costs of food will rocket.

Billy Balfour · Post by **Billy Balfour** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:37 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:18 pm
https://twitter.com/Ankita20200/status/ ... 4255051776

If you've not seen this yet, its a proper tear jerker - Ukrainian girl singing "Let it go" in Russian in a bomb shelter in Kharki'v

Aye, it's quite a moment, isn't it. I never thought I'd seen something like that in the heart of Europe - in 2022. By the way, the little girl and her 15-year-old brother have now made to Poland.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:42 pm

Billy Balfour wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:37 pm
Aye, it's quite a moment, isn't it. I never thought I'd seen something like that in the heart of Europe - in 2022. By the way, the little girl and her 15-year-old brother have now made to Poland.

The fact she is singing in Russian just hits home how badly this has been miscalculated by Russia

The very significant Russian minority in Ukraine has been completely alienated from Russia by the brutality of the actions in the areas where they all live

Indecisive · Post by **Indecisive** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:46 pm

jedi_master wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 10:21 am
Without sounding defeatist, the more I read, the more I learn - I see no way this doesn't end in World War.

I am so ambivalent about anything but my family right now. Seeing Chelsea fans kicking and screaming on social media that their repugnant owner has been sanctioned isn't even giving me joy. Everything in the world just feels so irrelevant now, such is the clear existential threat hanging over us all.

Never felt so worried, frankly.

This whole situation is really invading my thoughts at the minute. I just can’t understand how the situation starts to de escalate, and the reality is the opposite could easily happen..very quickly… and with horrific consequences

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:50 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:18 pm
https://twitter.com/Ankita20200/status/ ... 4255051776

If you've not seen this yet, its a proper tear jerker - Ukrainian girl singing "Let it go" in Russian in a bomb shelter in Kharki'v

Yes, there is a post earlier in the thread, several of the Frozen stars have contacted her to offer their support. Heartwarming

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:58 pm

After cancelling Russian meetings F1 now officially withdraws from Russia

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 90689?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:04 pm

Australia able to react to demand for products formally sourced in Russia due to labour laws and infrastructure, sys Reuters

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 54787?s=21

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:06 pm

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:06 pm

Reuters: Sale of Chelsea halted by sanctions.

https://twitter.com/reutersuk/status/15 ... 21475?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:09 pm

Indecisive wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:46 pm
This whole situation is really invading my thoughts at the minute. I just can’t understand how the situation starts to de escalate, and the reality is the opposite could easily happen..very quickly… and with horrific consequences

It is invading all our thoughts, the whole thing is horrific.

The only thing I can suggest that causes de escalation is Russia loses enough equipment and resources either they retreat or the Ukrainians push them back.
In my opinion it’s why Zelensky wants a no fly zone, without Russian air support he believes they do just that. Push them back.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:10 pm

Putin warns West - Russia will emerge stronger (I think Michael disagrees)

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 71330?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:14 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:09 pm
It is invading all our thoughts, the whole thing is horrific.

The only thing I can suggest that causes de escalation is Russia loses enough equipment and resources either they retreat or the Ukrainians push them back.
In my opinion it’s why Zelensky wants a no fly zone, without Russian air support he believes they do just that. Push them back.

There is definitely a feeling among Western leaders that Ukraine defences are getting the better of the Russian airforce, and with the new weapons being sent, they will improve further - understandably Zelenskiy wants belt and braces.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:37 pm

Russian Foreign Affairs Minister Lavrov’s stepdaughter living in London and unsanctioned continues to live a life of extreme privilege. Retweet by Historical author Ames Holland.

https://twitter.com/james1940/status/15 ... 59712?s=21

GodIsADeeJay81 · Post by **GodIsADeeJay81** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:40 pm

The official Twitter account for the Russian Embassy UK is busy trying to dismiss anything that shows the result of Russian attacks

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:40 pm

I was reading that this morning

Its jaw dropping

Lot of work to be done I suspect in how we operate in the City of London, and you hope that this crisis has opened everybodys eyes to how bad it has got

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:43 pm

Russia about to hit 1,000 confirmed (ie photo evidence) pieces of equipment destroyed or captured

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/statu ... 0536250368

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:51 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:37 pm
Russian Foreign Affairs Minister Lavrov’s stepdaughter living in London and unsanctioned continues to live a life of extreme privilege. Retweet by Historical author Ames Holland.

https://twitter.com/james1940/status/15 ... 59712?s=21

how has she not been arrested ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:54 pm

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:58 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:43 pm
Russia about to hit 1,000 confirmed (ie photo evidence) pieces of equipment destroyed or captured

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/statu ... 0536250368

Do we know how this compares to their total stock?

It sounds a huge amount to me, but hard to know the significance without that context.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:58 pm

Thread on how big Ukraine is, and how the military situation doesn't get better for the Russians

https://twitter.com/TrentTelenko/status ... 7773531136

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:10 pm

Mega thread on the short, medium and long term effects of the sanctions

End result, Russia completely dependent on China, but that will take years

https://twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/ ... 4702145537

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:19 pm

Ukrainian troops counter attacking nr Kyi'v

Notice just how much anti-tank weaponry they are carrying

https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/ ... 7247281158

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:54 pm
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Wow, that seems a little late in the day. “Rats and sinking ships” springs to mind.

HahaYeah · Post by **HahaYeah** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:29 pm

Ukraine: Cardiff orchestra pulls Tchaikovsky music over war

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-60684374

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:33 pm

This is wonderful… Lithuania has officially renamed the street where the Russian Embassy is located “Ukrainian Heroes Street”

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 47620?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:35 pm

Sony pulls out of Russia NEXTA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 89381?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:42 pm

IMF approves $1.4 b emergency funding to Ukraine BBC

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 10657?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:44 pm

No more Angry Birds in Russia NEXTA (bet there are)

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 58082?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:50 pm

REUTERS catch up with British MOD picture gaff

https://twitter.com/reutersuk/status/15 ... 55910?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:55 pm

It’ll cost a fair BOUNTY to buy a MARS BAR in Russia, no SNIKERS they are going down like SKITTLES! Mars withdraws from all Russian activity NEXTA

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 75237?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:00 pm

ECONOMIST - looks at the lengths Russian soldiers are going to avoid reaching the front, and blocking advances.

https://twitter.com/theeconomist/status ... 49163?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:02 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:58 pm
Do we know how this compares to their total stock?

It sounds a huge amount to me, but hard to know the significance without that context.

I have been trying to get any data on that, unsuccessfully.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:05 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:02 pm
I have been trying to get any data on that, unsuccessfully.

Thanks, would be really interested if you find anything. Sounds a lot destroyed to me, but when I read they had 100 helicopters at an airfield in Belarus it also feels a bit premature to consider it significant.

NewClaret · Post by **NewClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:07 pm

Thanks to Lancaster, Elwa & Vegas Claret(s) for sharing so much information on this thread. Better than the BBC, this thread.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:08 pm

OTHER NEWS: Sir John Elliott FBA (Scottish historian) has died the Royal Historical Society announce.

https://twitter.com/royalhistsoc/status ... 48805?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:11 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:19 pm
Ukrainian troops counter attacking nr Kyi'v

Notice just how much anti-tank weaponry they are carrying

https://twitter.com/Blue_Sauron/status/ ... 7247281158

Think the west has sent around 15,000 anti tank weapons and that’s the countries who are prepared to admit it.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:12 pm

NEW YORK TIMES - Turkey peace talks failed because Lavrov claimed Russia DID NOT attack Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1501 ... 89287?s=21

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:15 pm

Planes flying near the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad and near Finland’s eastern border with Russia have noticed interference with their GPS signals, according to Finnish authorities.

Reuters has reported that Finland’s flag carrier Finnair has noticed interference with its planes’ GPS signals soon after Finland’s President Sauli Niinistö met Joe Biden in Washington on Saturday to discuss deepening defense ties between Finland and Nato due to Russia’s attack on Ukraine.

Kaliningrad is a Russian province situated between NATO member countries Lithuania and Poland, south of Finland.

Prime Minister Sanna Marin told Reuters she had no information about the source of the disturbances, and would refuse to say if it originated in Russia.

“If they would be caused by outside influence, it would surely be said publicly,” Marin said.

There has been no official response from Russian authorities regarding the matter.

A number of Finnair’s Asian-bound flights and most of its European ones go past Kaliningrad, which is sandwiched between NATO members Lithuania and Poland on the Baltic Sea’s eastern coast.

Traficom, the Finnish Transport and Communications Agency, said it had asked aviation authorities to alert pilots to the situation by issuing an official Notice to Airmen notification.

The disturbances were continuing, it said.

“Flying is still safe. Airlines have operational procedures for such situations if the GPS signal is lost,” Traficom’s director Jari Pöntinen said in a statement.

Lithuanian airline Transaviabaltika said it had been forced to cancel 18 flights between Helsinki and Savonlinna in eastern Finland after the lack of GPS made it impossible to land, due to Savonlinna airport not having alternative navigation equipment.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:15 pm

Portugal are not prepared to strip Abramovich of his citizenship, until EU sanction him.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1501 ... 89287?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:22 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:05 pm
Thanks, would be really interested if you find anything. Sounds a lot destroyed to me, but when I read they had 100 helicopters at an airfield in Belarus it also feels a bit premature to consider it significant.

Some of the stats I did find.

In Afghanistan Russia had 1 soldier to 9 civilians. They lost.
They have 1 soldier to 144 or 166 depending on source in Ukraine.

They have 1 soldier to each 3 sq km of Ukrainian soil.

I have also read they have committed 65% of resources to this invasion, that does not leave a lot in reserve, in case it kicks off at home.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:27 pm

Garry Kasparov Chairman of the Human Rights Foundation (and former Chess Grand-master) shares his view.

https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/1 ... 09217?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:33 pm

Two Missiles that wont kill Ukrainians - (for those who like to see stuff blown up). I presume a drone?

https://twitter.com/laughing_stoic/stat ... 24001?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:38 pm

BBC announce Private Militias are recruiting former soldiers - here come the Black Flag brigades - last time we had that was Franco’s Spanish Civil War.

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 38242?s=21

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:44 pm

REUTERS economic adviser puts Ukraine War damage at $100 Bn and rising.

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1501 ... 66979?s=21

Lowbankclaret · Post by **Lowbankclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:45 pm

NewClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:05 pm
Thanks, would be really interested if you find anything. Sounds a lot destroyed to me, but when I read they had 100 helicopters at an airfield in Belarus it also feels a bit premature to consider it significant.

Found a couple but no idea what’s close to the truth. This lines up with a few of them. So if the 65% is true, that’s about 1,500 tanks committed to the battle field. Let’s assume those in Storage are so old and not maintained they would probably not work or not for long.

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Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:47 pm

elwaclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:33 pm
Two Missiles that wont kill Ukrainians - (for those who like to see stuff blown up). I presume a drone?

https://twitter.com/laughing_stoic/stat ... 24001?s=21

BUK SAM system

State of the art (well, was)