Transfer Rumours Thread - NO FINANCIAL DISCUSSION

[ArmchairDetective]

ClaretXtra twitter account linking us with a move for Jordan Gabriel from Blackpool again. Crediting James Nursey with the link, though can't see any articles more recent than June.

[RVclaret]

James Nursey

‘Burnley trying to agree a fee with Blackpool for full-back Jordan Gabriel. Clarets also still in talks to get Callum O'Hare from Cov.’

Take it that’s Roberts or Lowton off?

[claretonthecoast1882]

Roberts is a bit of an odd one.

I thought he struggled at times last season but expect him to be a much better performer at this level. Can't really see a Prem side paying for him on the back of last season but between him and Lowton you would expect him to be the saleable asset

[Marney&Mee]

Big fan of Cornet but, with him being made of glass, i think he’ll be out injured a lot in the Championship. Take the money and reinvest

[Steddyman]

What do we want his dad for!

Add much needed experience in the squad.

[Rileybobs]

Sense, Everton aside, we’re having some targeted discussions about a loan deals with clubs that you’d expect to be threatened by relegation that could work for all sides:

- we get wages off the books and some cash to invest in replacements
- they get a PL proven player who could help keep them up
- assuming we went up, we get back a player with a further year of PL experience
- if we don’t and they stay up, we get a few
- if we don’t and they go down, hopefully he’s been successful and we’d get a bigger fee than we might this summer

Sounds like we’re trying to avoid being a yo-yo club by having too many PL-standard players to buy if we do get promoted, which is a good strategy imo because as exciting as our new young signings are, I think we’d need a different standard to survive if we got promotion - especially after losing Tarks, Mee & Pope.

Not saying it’s entirely without risk, but slightly more sophisticated than just selling all your best players.

I’m not too keen on the idea personally. It doesn’t seem like anybody on here wants Weghorst back, for example. And if I was part of this Burnley squad and won promotion, I wouldn’t be too keen on someone like Cornet waltzing back in from his loan spell away and displacing me from the starting eleven. I just don’t think it’s great for squad dynamics.

[Steddyman]

No one likes us, we don’t care!

I despise that chant. We should call ourselves Liverpool if we want to play the victim card.

[NL Claret]

Must have improved, it was crap years ago, I hadn't realised it was still going.

I'd happily take crap rather than reading through the majority of threads on here. I rarely post on here and now it has got to the point where one minute of viewing is enough for the day.

[RVclaret]

Belgian press also now reporting our interest in Jack Hendry from Club Brugge, though add Wolfsburg are also interested

[ksrclaret]

Sounds like we've still got quite a bit shopping left to do, if all these reports are to be believed.

Goalkeeper (possibly x2), right back, centre back, attacking mid, striker. Going to be a busy last few weeks.

[fatboy47]

What do we want his dad for!

He's a good bloke.

[RVclaret]

Sounds like we've still got quite a bit shopping left to do, if all these reports are to be believed.

Goalkeeper (possibly x2), right back, centre back, attacking mid, striker. Going to be a busy last few weeks.

Yes - Kompany’s comments in the Burnley express were interesting and said as much. He also said ideally he wants as many in by the first game. With that much to do, though, highly likely there will be another outgoing or two (after Cornet).

[ksrclaret]

Yes - Kompany’s comments in the Burnley express were interesting and said as much. He also said ideally he wants as many in by the first game. With that much to do, though, highly likely there will be another outgoing or two (after Cornet).

Yes I've just seen those comments. Says we'll likely be integrating new players into the squad right up until the close of the window.

I've never known such a huge turnover of the playing squad.

[ArmchairDetective]

Belgian press also now reporting our interest in Jack Hendry from Club Brugge, though add Wolfsburg are also interested

Be nice to have a more experienced head at the back if we plan on playing a younger keeper.

If I remember correctly (may be wrong), I think Wolfsburg were one of the clubs interested in VK at the time when Pace convinced him to come here. If we do want Hendry, hopefully VK can now convince him to come here over Wolfsburg too.

[RVclaret]

Yes I've just seen those comments. Says we'll likely be integrating new players into the squad right up until the close of the window.

I've never known such a huge turnover of the playing squad.

Me too. I guess it’s a mixture of needing to lower the wage bill significantly, manage the debt and allow Kompany to build his own squad for his philosophy. Will likely be some teething issues at first but when they click it should be very exciting indeed.

[Murger]

The Gabriel rumour is a weird 1. Right back is the last area that needs strengthening.

[clive40golf]

What do we want his dad for!

Sometimes a bit of humour breaks the monotony.
Cheers for bringing a smile.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Depends - I think we’d snap hands off for the full 17.5m upfront or even 50% now and 50% in a year. Doesn’t look like anyones been forthcoming yet with that offer though.

I agree I think the club would but that isn’t to say they should.

I see him as an asset not declining in value for some time. I also see him as one we may not sign equivalent if we go back up (why Fulham may want him now, not many like him around). So if we take advantage of their short term cash flow problem with a big loan fee and the potential for a bigger payment outside the release clause in a year, for me that feels better. Unless our cash flow really is stuffed, which would be another matter.

Cornet should really have kept us up last season, but for a variety of unlucky factors, ANC, injuries, Covid postponements, FFP issues and bizarre misses. So his value to a newly promoted side is huge. That could include his value to us in a year’s time.

[Paul Waine]

I’m not too keen on the idea personally. It doesn’t seem like anybody on here wants Weghorst back, for example. And if I was part of this Burnley squad and won promotion, I wouldn’t be too keen on someone like Cornet waltzing back in from his loan spell away and displacing me from the starting eleven. I just don’t think it’s great for squad dynamics.

I'd be happy with Wout Weghorst returning next season if we have won promotion. I'd be similarly happy, if Maxwel Cornet was out on loan this season to return next. I'd be happier if Maxwel was here this season and was part of our promotion success. I don't get the idea that any of the squad wouldn't want Premier League standard players joining the team and better those who already know the team and the club. Fans will always want the best players in the team.

[Colburn_Claret]

The giss as keeping situation is getting serious now. Muric seems to have reached a dead end. Verbruggen would only be an understudy to BPF.

I think the majority of the board are agreed that we won't be paying that much money for a back up Goalkeeper.
A gamble, but if we buy him I think he plays. We need funds to fill other holes in the squad, it can't be wasted on a back up, although I accept we need one.
If it's serious we are dragging it out, but that seems to be the norm this window. So many of the players we have signed, have inferred on interview, that negotiations had been going on for weeks.

[clarethomer]

I’m not too keen on the idea personally. It doesn’t seem like anybody on here wants Weghorst back, for example. And if I was part of this Burnley squad and won promotion, I wouldn’t be too keen on someone like Cornet waltzing back in from his loan spell away and displacing me from the starting eleven. I just don’t think it’s great for squad dynamics.

Nobody wants Weghorst back that I know of because of the way he came out and basically said he was too good for Burnley in the Championship after doing the square root of nothing to support our survival.

Whilst it was all pre agreed in contracts, it’s not what has happened as such but how he’s gone about it.

Compared to Cornet- has a great relationship with the fans, seems happy to be training and being part of the team. Not come out and said anything to get the fans backs up.

Cornet also scored more goals and gave us a bit of a silver lining to a season which was largely dark clouds.

If he goes out on loan and comes back in, he will have to compete in the squad that got promoted and he will potentially has another season to get used to the premier league. It’s a win-win from what I can see.

If he doesn’t come back, we get £30m for someone who could have been bought for £17-18m. Good business to me

[Rileybobs]

I'd be happy with Wout Weghorst returning next season if we have won promotion. I'd be similarly happy, if Maxwel Cornet was out on loan this season to return next. I'd be happier if Maxwel was here this season and was part of our promotion success. I don't get the idea that any of the squad wouldn't want Premier League standard players joining the team and better those who already know the team and the club. Fans will always want the best players in the team.

Judging by the mood off here I don’t think anyone would take kindly to Weghorst playing for Burnley again. And I’d wager a large amount that he never will.

As for Cornet - I think as a one-off it wouldn’t be a terrible thing. But the poster I was responding to suggested this was a good way forward which I can’t agree with. Players like Weghorst and Cornet haven’t proven themselves to be Premier League standard players and were both regular features of the side that got relegated.

If I was part of any team, football or otherwise, and took a pay cut when the chips were down - I wouldn’t take kindly to colleagues leaving the sinking ship, only to return when the good times, and money returned.

It’s hard to look beyond the togetherness of our squad being a huge factor for our success over previous seasons - and I can’t see how this model is conducive to that. Did Roberts look pally with Weghorst in their recent international encounter?

[KateR]

Nobody wants Weghorst back that I know of because of the way he came out and basically said he was too good for Burnley in the Championship after doing the square root of nothing to support our survival.

Whilst it was all pre agreed in contracts, it’s not what has happened as such but how he’s gone about it. /quote]

I'd be happy to have WW back on two counts, first it would mean we're back in the PL, secondly, he has stated he never said he was to good, I think there's a good player there, but agree I would like/want to see more, pre-season and a full season could easily make that happen, IMO of course.

[KRBFC]

Who wouldn't want Brian Deane....the striker we've been craving

Now that's a proper Dyche signing, Brian Deane and Kevin Davies in a 4 4 f**king 2. Jon Parkin and Mido on the bench, plan B is throw on more strikers if losing and kick it longer and higher.

[Rileybobs]

Nobody wants Weghorst back that I know of because of the way he came out and basically said he was too good for Burnley in the Championship after doing the square root of nothing to support our survival.

Whilst it was all pre agreed in contracts, it’s not what has happened as such but how he’s gone about it.

Compared to Cornet- has a great relationship with the fans, seems happy to be training and being part of the team. Not come out and said anything to get the fans backs up.

Cornet also scored more goals and gave us a bit of a silver lining to a season which was largely dark clouds.

If he goes out on loan and comes back in, he will have to compete in the squad that got promoted and he will potentially has another season to get used to the premier league. It’s a win-win from what I can see.

If he doesn’t come back, we get £30m for someone who could have been bought for £17-18m. Good business to me

Or the third scenario, and perhaps most likely is that he could come back to us whilst we’re in the Championship.

[KateR]

Adam Phillips, BFC player, never heard of him, anyone actually seen him play, thoughts? Potential to slot in VK's side as a squad player, avoid buying, use funds eleswhere perhaps.

https://the72.co.uk/2022/07/19/24-year- ... one-clubs/

[UpTheClaretsFCBK]

The Gabriel rumour is a weird 1. Right back is the last area that needs strengthening.

There was talk of Lowton going and he hasn’t look very happy in the glimpses of clips and photos I’ve seen from preseason.

[Colburn_Claret]

Agree I would snap their hands off.

Cornet is a fair weather player and I doubt we get value out of him and his value would fall

He'll find a lot better 'weather' in the Championship, playing in VKs formation.

I don't know whether he will stay or go, I hope he stays, but every photo, or clip of him this pre season training, has shown him with a smile on his face. That alone should dispel some of the theories that he's wanting to get away. If the right offer, from the right club comes in, it will be hard to stop it, but I believe he is happy to just see which way it flies.

[bpgburn]

Now that's a proper Dyche signing, Brian Deane and Kevin Davies in a 4 4 f**king 2. Jon Parkin and Mido on the bench, plan B is throw on more strikers if losing and kick it longer and higher.

Relax, he's gone

[TickTock]

Adam Phillips, BFC player, never heard of him, anyone actually seen him play, thoughts? Potential to slot in VK's side as a squad player, avoid buying, use funds eleswhere perhaps.

https://the72.co.uk/2022/07/19/24-year- ... one-clubs/

hes 24 and has never played for the senior team as far as I am concerned hes nowhere near it from everything ive seen should just sell to league one IMO plus hes a midfielder we arent about bring another CM in

[clarethomer]

Or the third scenario, and perhaps most likely is that he could come back to us whilst we’re in the Championship.

Which we can sell him for £17/18m still.

Read we are preferring a buy rather than loan with buy so it could all be theoretically irrelevant anyway

[Rileybobs]

Which we can sell him for £17/18m still.

Read we are preferring a buy rather than loan with buy so it could all be theoretically irrelevant anyway

We can only sell him for £17/£18m if anyone pays that. And so far nobody has. So who knows whether we could get anything like that for him in 12 months time.

[Hipper]

Adam Phillips, BFC player, never heard of him, anyone actually seen him play, thoughts? Potential to slot in VK's side as a squad player, avoid buying, use funds eleswhere perhaps.

https://the72.co.uk/2022/07/19/24-year- ... one-clubs/

I saw a Morecambe game on TV and he impressed. He seems to have done well there as he played a lot of matches. However he didn't seem involved in the Shrewsbury friendly and others from the u-23 squad seem ahead of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGmoAO_YFlA

[RVclaret]

I saw a Morecambe game on TV and he impressed. He seems to have done well there as he played a lot of matches. However he didn't seem involved in the Shrewsbury friendly and others from the u-23 squad seem ahead of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGmoAO_YFlA

Was injured for the Shrews game apparently

[ecc]

Just read that article. Find it a bit odd.

"The Verdict

Adam Phillips does look like he could be a very shrewd signing for any interested Championship or League One club during this summer window."

[ecc]

There was talk of Lowton going and he hasn’t look very happy in the glimpses of clips and photos I’ve seen from preseason.

TBH I don't blame him. I like Matt and have always felt he's a very good pro, fully committed and happy at Burnley. But ultimately, he was too inconsistent to in the PL. He had spells when he was good and then periods when he struggled. However, at 33 I'm sure he can be a good RB in the Championship. But Roberts will start ahead of him. We need both of them IMO. He is also one of the most experienced members of the squad. But I would fully understand him wanting to start regularly.

[Bullabill]

I'd be happy with Wout Weghorst returning next season if we have won promotion. I'd be similarly happy, if Maxwel Cornet was out on loan this season to return next. I'd be happier if Maxwel was here this season and was part of our promotion success. I don't get the idea that any of the squad wouldn't want Premier League standard players joining the team and better those who already know the team and the club. Fans will always want the best players in the team.

Me too. WW is perfectly entitled to do what he's doing - after all, it's a world cup year and he probably thinks that Championship football would harm his chances of being involved. He's only got one opportunity and has to take it. Right or wrong it's his decision to make.

[claretgimmer]

I may be wrong here but unless it was just a spurious rumour then didn`t Cornet ask to return to his parent club during last season believing he was only on loan, so whilst I agree with the sentiment re Weghorst not returning if the above is true then Cornet is not without sin.

[jedi_master]

I may be wrong here but unless it was just a spurious rumour then didn`t Cornet ask to return to his parent club during last season believing he was only on loan, so whilst I agree with the sentiment re Weghorst not returning if the above is true then Cornet is not without sin.

“You are not a loannnnn” in hearing that rumour.

[Zlatan]

I may be wrong here but unless it was just a spurious rumour then didn`t Cornet ask to return to his parent club during last season believing he was only on loan, so whilst I agree with the sentiment re Weghorst not returning if the above is true then Cornet is not without sin.

That was just a crap joke about Michael Jackson and “you’re not a loan”

[Rowls]

I may be wrong here but unless it was just a spurious rumour then didn`t Cornet ask to return to his parent club during last season believing he was only on loan, so whilst I agree with the sentiment re Weghorst not returning if the above is true then Cornet is not without sin.

The Cornet story comes from a convoluted joke which had the punchline "You are not a loan".

It was a pun on the Michael Jackson song, "You are not alone" when Mike Jackson took charge of the first team.

In other news, Man City are looking to sign the brother of ex-player Kiki Musampa whose name is Kris.

[claret5]

Sounds a bit desperate
https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2022/07/19/4 ... -mitrovic/

[claretgimmer]

Fair enough, I will try to keep up in future Lol !

[dibraidio]

I saw a Morecambe game on TV and he impressed. He seems to have done well there as he played a lot of matches. However he didn't seem involved in the Shrewsbury friendly and others from the u-23 squad seem ahead of him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGmoAO_YFlA

He isn't a CM he's a creative attacking player who usually plays wide right, takes a lot of set pieces and has an eye for a pass and likes to shoot. He needs a manager who trusts him, ideal for being a big fish in a small pond. At Morecambe in League Two he took the corners, free kicks and penalties and had really good stats, at Accy he wasn't given the same level of responsibility and had a much less productive season. He's definitely good enough for League One and who knows he could be even better playing with better players in a higher league but he's not got any experience at Championship level. He could be a good player to have in our squad, particularly with 5 subs.

[dsr]

There was talk of Lowton going and he hasn’t look very happy in the glimpses of clips and photos I’ve seen from preseason.

I would have thought it highly likely that he would be allowed to leave if he can find another club that wants him. If not, he's stuck here which might be poor news for everyone.

[Tricky Trevor]

TBH I don't blame him. I like Matt and have always felt he's a very good pro, fully committed and happy at Burnley. But ultimately, he was too inconsistent to in the PL. He had spells when he was good and then periods when he struggled. However, at 33 I'm sure he can be a good RB in the Championship. But Roberts will start ahead of him. We need both of them IMO. He is also one of the most experienced members of the squad. But I would fully understand him wanting to start regularly.

And yet we rarely conceded from his side all season. He was replaced by Roberts for attacking intent. For what Roberts gave us going forward we conceded far more. Poor decision IMO.

[dibraidio]

Belgian press also now reporting our interest in Jack Hendry from Club Brugge, though add Wolfsburg are also interested

Does this guy really fit with our transfer strategy? He's 27 and doesn't have a massive amount of experience at a decent level.

[quoonbeatz]

Watch out for Lowton not smiling on the official squad photo.

[Jakubclaret]

The ice cream giddiness of 1 cornetto from last seasons euphorics will begin to rapidly melt shortly.

[TomtheClaret]

Not sure if mentioned. But seems Cornet has turned down a move to Forrest