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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:57 pm

Motherfkers did this in Syria, right before they started using chemical weapons

This would be a serious escalation that would guarantee Russia will be a pariah state for the rest of most of our lives

https://twitter.com/mfa_russia/status/1 ... 5799564292

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:01 pm

Dr. Bakkalian warning while we watch Ukraine pressure is also building between Japan and Russia in the Sea of Okhotsk.

https://twitter.com/riversidewings/stat ... 83777?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by HitchinClaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:02 pm

I'm not very tech savy (not at all) but is there any way to find out what the Russian people are being told about what is going on? just wanted to see what is being peddled that side of the planet?

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:03 pm

HitchinClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:02 pm
I'm not very tech savy (not at all) but is there any way to find out what the Russian people are being told about what is going on? just wanted to see what is being peddled that side of the planet?
click the link at the top that Lancaster just posted !!!!!!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:09 pm

HitchinClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:02 pm
I'm not very tech savy (not at all) but is there any way to find out what the Russian people are being told about what is going on? just wanted to see what is being peddled that side of the planet?
Essentially its a "Special Military Operation to remove neo-Nazis from Kyi'v"

All the footage on Russian TV is basically Russian troops being victorious everywhere, being welcomed by cheering crowds (almost certainly staged in the LDR or the DDR) and the odd footage of a hero being buried

Nothing like 10 destroyed T-72s in a morning or anything like that

But a lot of stuff will be getting through, but its a huge ask to expect it to have an affect on how Putin fights this war, and its clear he's going all in because he knows failure means he's toast

Course, the fact he might take us all down with him doesn't matter to him

Its not good

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:10 pm

NEXTA: release dash cam footage of convoys moving up to the Brest on the Polish/Belarusian border and Anti-sub frigate moved from Brest into the North Sea.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/150 ... 86981?s=21
https://twitter.com/premar_ceclant/stat ... 09280?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Dy1geo » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:12 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:56 pm
At least eight captured or destroyed Russian T-72 tanks

https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1502309451759501313
On Twitter it shows a video of Russians with captured Javelin anti tank weapons with instructions so we will have the Ukrainians in Russian tanks being shot at by the Russians by British made anti tank weapons
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by HitchinClaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:14 pm

That worries me more than anything, I see the twitter feeds etc, but clear as day the comments are not posted by Russians.
The power Putin has to manipulate an incredible country is frightening.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:17 pm

Dy1geo wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:12 pm
On Twitter it shows a video of Russians with captured Javelin anti tank weapons with instructions so we will have the Ukrainians in Russian tanks being shot at by the Russians by British made anti tank weapons
Yup, but the key is whether the Ukrainian can continue to deny Russia air superiority, and keep Russian units on the edge of supply

They are going to capture some weaponry absolutely no doubt, and I'm afraid I just don't enough about how Ukraine is using its own armour and mechanized equipment (because no one seems to know)

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Spijed » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:09 pm
Essentially its a "Special Military Operation to remove neo-Nazis from Kyi'v"

All the footage on Russian TV is basically Russian troops being victorious everywhere, being welcomed by cheering crowds (almost certainly staged in the LDR or the DDR) and the odd footage of a hero being buried

Nothing like 10 destroyed T-72s in a morning or anything like that

But a lot of stuff will be getting through, but its a huge ask to expect it to have an affect on how Putin fights this war, and its clear he's going all in because he knows failure means he's toast

Course, the fact he might take us all down with him doesn't matter to him

Its not good
It sounds like America is still trying to offer him a way out:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/26 ... -russia-us

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:19 pm

Reminder of the documented losses from both sides (all with photo evidence)

https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/02/a ... pment.html

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:21 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:18 pm
It sounds like America is still trying to offer him a way out:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/01/26 ... -russia-us
Thing is, I'm very pleased that they are doing this, but I suspect all this is just playing to Putin and he's taking it as a sign that the West won't react again

If he is still thinking that though, then his miscalculations are far from over

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:23 pm

Craddock - Adams retweet. After a long meeting last night, in Versailles more incentive for Ukraine as EU agree Ukrainian integration into EU to proceed ASAP.

https://twitter.com/gitanasnauseda/stat ... 71874?s=21
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Spijed » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:24 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:21 pm
Thing is, I'm very pleased that they are doing this, but I suspect all this is just playing to Putin and he's taking it as a sign that the West won't react again

If he is still thinking that though, then his miscalculations are far from over
Wonder if America is also secretly speaking to China to try and get them to put pressure him as that might have more chance of working.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:24 pm

Ukraine still denying Russians air superiority

Clearly fear of Ukrainian SAM systems is stopping the Russian air force from making a decisive intervention

https://twitter.com/beverstine/status/1 ... 0342979587

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:25 pm

Spijed wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:24 pm
Wonder if America is also secretly speaking to China to try and get them to put pressure him as that might have more chance of working.
Unless China have completely lost the plot, they should be talking to Putin already

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:26 pm

Phillips OBrian tweet - it now seems that the huge column (thought earlier to be now being deployed), has in fact been moved purely for their own safety and remained ‘stalled’

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... 20177?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:30 pm

… and from the same source further discussion on the column - fear of Ukrainian blitzkrieg behind column ‘disappearance’.

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... 79907?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:33 pm

More suggestion from OBrian the Ukrainian efforts have been far in excess of what Russia was prepared for.

https://twitter.com/phillipspobrien/sta ... 21798?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:34 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:25 pm
Unless China have completely lost the plot, they should be talking to Putin already
they will not be happy with Putin at all

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:35 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:25 pm
Unless China have completely lost the plot, they should be talking to Putin already
China talking about Oil deals, but may be distracted by domestic issues as a new series of COVID outbreaks, meaning lockdowns are closing down large sections of China.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Aclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:37 pm

Chuckypad wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:04 pm
I don't have access to Twitter, apart from on this thread, and some of the sources and content is just so much more insightful than what you get on other news outlets

Thanks to you, elwa, tsar, vegas and the rest by the way
I wish this war would end.
At times I find myself very depressed, at the same time I feel I need to know what is going on.
A big thanks to these posters and others for the incredible information they are giving us.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:39 pm

Zelenskiy tweet - long conversation with POTUS (US President Bidon) further steps agreed for defence and sanctions.

https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/ ... 14884?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:41 pm

Video showing soldiers with white armbands leaving a building in the center of Melitopol. Ukrainian media say that the mayor of Melitopol has been kidnapped.
https://twitter.com/ukrpravda_news/stat ... IvbuTGoPrw

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by HitchinClaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:43 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:37 pm
I wish this war would end.
At times I find myself very depressed, at the same time I feel I need to know what is going on.
A big thanks to these posters and others for the incredible information they are giving us.
echo your sentiments, I get much more from Reddit and here than all the BBC, ITV etc put together!

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Re: Russia Invades

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:45 pm

Much more positive thread on how Russia is going to lose

https://twitter.com/samagreene/status/1 ... 7234524161
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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:45 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:37 pm
I wish this war would end.
At times I find myself very depressed, at the same time I feel I need to know what is going on.
A big thanks to these posters and others for the incredible information they are giving us.
- think we all feel the same Aclaret, tbh. The optimists among us are increasingly hoping that the net result of this, is that a new era of Glasnost will ultimately result.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:46 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:37 pm
I wish this war would end.
At times I find myself very depressed, at the same time I feel I need to know what is going on.
A big thanks to these posters and others for the incredible information they are giving us.
I think we are all exactly the same mate

The sooner this ends the better

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:50 pm

EU to double military aid into Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/samramani2/status/1 ... 02052?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:56 pm

ELINT musing how surreal it will be seeing Syrian Army fighting Syrian Rebels over Ukraine.

https://twitter.com/elintnews/status/15 ... 63815?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:59 pm

Putin appeals for foreign volunteers willing to fight for Russia in Ukraine (seems the penny is dropping)

https://twitter.com/bbcworld/status/150 ... 93632?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:03 pm

BBC reporting that the yanks say Russians less than 10 miles from Kiev and advancing on “ at least” 2 fronts . You have to admire the courage of the UKR , but this could be horrific . I’d imagine vast amounts of residents are hopefully evacuated before the almost inevitable blitz . It’s almost impossible to know how strong the Russians really are , but for sheer numbers and ordnance , surely outnumbering the UKR forces .
I can’t see how Putin ends this without a surrender

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:04 pm

Kyiv Independent reporting Bidon threatening of the ‘severe price’ Russia will pay if they revert to chemical warfare (none specific)

https://twitter.com/kyivindependent/sta ... 73699?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by FCBurnley » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:07 pm

Just listened to live broadcast of Russian presentation at UN Security Council and the response from the US. Clearly the 2 opinions are polar opposites and sadly can only lead to one catastrophic result.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:15 pm

Garry Kasparov thoughts on Putin’s call for mercenaries and lack of NATO response.

https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/1 ... 40711?s=21

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:17 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 4:09 pm


Course, the fact he might take us all down with him doesn't matter to him
You sound like a puppet, like sleepy Joe. All worried about ''Russian are a nuclear threat'', guess what, the UK and US are a nuclear threat too..... We can push a button just like Putin....

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:19 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:15 pm
Garry Kasparov thoughts on Putin’s call for mercenaries and lack of NATO response.

https://twitter.com/kasparov63/status/1 ... 40711?s=21
exactly what I've been saying, West acting like a punch of pussies

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lowbankclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:21 pm

FCBurnley wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:07 pm
Just listened to live broadcast of Russian presentation at UN Security Council and the response from the US. Clearly the 2 opinions are polar opposites and sadly can only lead to one catastrophic result.
I didn’t watch as I knew what was going to be said, tomorrow it will be Russia retaliation with chemical weapons because Ukraine used them first.

Unfortunately this ends in a new Cold War border. Sadly.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:22 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:03 pm
BBC reporting that the yanks say Russians less than 10 miles from Kiev and advancing on “ at least” 2 fronts . You have to admire the courage of the UKR , but this could be horrific . I’d imagine vast amounts of residents are hopefully evacuated before the almost inevitable blitz . It’s almost impossible to know how strong the Russians really are , but for sheer numbers and ordnance , surely outnumbering the UKR forces .
I can’t see how Putin ends this without a surrender
You really think Russians outnumber Ukrainians, in Ukraine? :lol:

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:24 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 3:30 pm
God bless Yelena Osipova -

https://twitter.com/olliecarroll/status ... 97960?s=21
What a Beauty!

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:24 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:21 pm
I didn’t watch as I knew what was going to be said, tomorrow it will be Russia retaliation with chemical weapons because Ukraine used them first.

Unfortunately this ends in a new Cold War border. Sadly.
I suspect not. Not this time. All reliable reports are suggesting not only is Ukraine now on top, but Putin’s need to appeal for troops from outside Russia almost certainly tells a bigger story.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:25 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:19 pm
exactly what I've been saying, West acting like a punch of pussies
Everyone acting pussy cat about Russians nuclear threat, silly Russian needs reminding of the NATO nuclear threat and Russia will be wiped out and turned into an English speaking country if he dares turn this war nuclear.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:25 pm
Everyone acting pussy cat about Russians nuclear threat, silly Russian needs reminding of the NATO nuclear threat and Russia will be wiped out and turned into an English speaking country if he dares turn this war nuclear.
I wouldn't go that far but the rhetoric out of the west is extremely weak

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by KRBFC » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:29 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:27 pm
I wouldn't go that far but the rhetoric out of the west is extremely weak
West just allowing him to threaten ''worst consequences ever seen'', he certainly needs a reminder of the true NATO power, he's the weaker force here. He's playing checkers, with 1 piece v 10.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:33 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:27 pm
I wouldn't go that far but the rhetoric out of the west is extremely weak
Not so sure about that - there have been some real ball-breakers today. Removal from WTO will cripple Russia alone - EU to express Ukraine into Europe - a DOUBLING of weapons from EU - and lots on other sanctions.

Russia is heading for famine should they persist.

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:34 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:29 pm
West just allowing him to threaten ''worst consequences ever seen'', he certainly needs a reminder of the true NATO power, he's the weaker force here. He's playing checkers, with 1 piece v 10.
yep, fine line to tread like Lancaster pointed out - this guy has no fear who he takes with him it seems. I still think the West needs to up the anti though

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Lancasterclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:35 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:34 pm
yep, fine line to tread like Lancaster pointed out - this guy has no fear who he takes with him it seems. I still think the West needs to up the anti though
I think upping the anti plays into what he wants

Us reacting to him doing shitty things keeps us on the right side of proportional and doesn't allow him to claim with any justification that he's reacting to provocation

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:37 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:33 pm
Not so sure about that - there have been some real ball-breakers today. Removal from WTO will cripple Russia alone - EU to express Ukraine into Europe - a DOUBLING of weapons from EU - and lots on other sanctions.

Russia is heading for famine should they persist.
as maybe, but those sanctions aren't going to immediately affect the thinking of those sitting around the table with him though. We've offered nothing back (that I'm aware of) in terms of being aggressive in a retaliatory action (which to me would be the way to make his generals and decision makes pay more attention in the immediate term). Very fine line to tread obviously, but if Putin wins we are heading to an even darker place imho

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Re: Russia Invades

Post by elwaclaret » Fri Mar 11, 2022 5:39 pm

PM Johnson invites UK nationals to invite Ukrainian’s to lodge with them for duration, as UK set to change rules on Ukrainian immigration.

https://twitter.com/bbcnews/status/1502 ... 75970?s=21

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