January 2022 Burnley Transfer Window Rumours - Links - Discussion

[Dark Cloud]

1. Dyche (and the club) have made clear lots of times that often you sign players you "don't need now" because they become available and you don't pass it up if they are good enough

2. Wood leaving was a complete surprise (ie no-one thought anyone would fork out the release fee and let's be honest if anyone suggested we might get even 18m for Wood heading roward 31 and the final year of a contract they would have been hounded out with derision)

3. We did "sign" an attacking CM who chose to go to a Championship club instead despite us offering more money

I think you'll see we are very much in agreement regarding points 1 and 2 and are maybe just phrasing it slightly differently, but I don't follow point 3 as I'm sure we chased people for CM, but the fact is we didn't sign anyone and that's been biting us all season (I believe).

[BabylonClaret]

Fixed item 3 for you

You know what I meant. We had a bid accepted and inferred a deal but he chose ro play safe instead.

You said the club didn't prioritise CM. I just showed you we did.

You're almost as bad as KRBFC

[gandhisflipflop]

Another day goes by and no signing. Why do we make it so difficult? Times ticking.....again.

[BabylonClaret]

I think you'll see we are very much in agreement regarding points 1 and 2 and are maybe just phrasing it slightly differently, but I don't follow point 3 as I'm sure we chased people for CM, but the fact is we didn't sign anyone and that's been biting us all season (I believe).

I don't disagree that we needed CM (although I would argue a right sided MF was main priority) but we did chase as you said and almost succeeded, as I said. What newcastle(cough)claret(cough)93 said is we didn't prioritise it and we clearly did, but failed.

Given Stephens has shown he might be OK to do a job this year I think its less a priority than a forward and RM right now.

[RVclaret]

Another day goes by and no signing. Why do we make it so difficult? Times ticking.....again.

Nothing really seems to have much substance right now. Plenty of links but doesn’t sound like anything is imminent.

[BabylonClaret]

Who was he?

Christie- was on the verge but turned us down for Bournemouth (although I do suspect the alleged "less money" is bull. Maybe he is on similar but a promotion clause puts him above if they go up?

[Dark Cloud]

I don't disagree that we needed CM (although I would argue a right sided MF was main priority) but we did chase as you said and almost succeeded, as I said. What newcastle(cough)claret(cough)93 said is we didn't prioritise it and we clearly did, but failed.

Given Stephens has shown he might be OK to do a job this year I think its less a priority than a forward and RM right now.

I definitely agree that selling Wood (which like most on here I don't have an issue with at that price) has made getting a striker in before next week the number one priority right now.

[Newcastleclaret93]

You know what I meant. We had a bid accepted and inferred a deal but he chose ro play safe instead.

You said the club didn't prioritise CM. I just showed you we did.

You're almost as bad as KRBFC

You said we signed one. We didn’t. How did we prioritise it if we didn’t sign a cm? That just doesn’t make sense at all.

[NewClaret]

Christie- was on the verge but turned us down for Bournemouth (although I do suspect the alleged "less money" is bull. Maybe he is on similar but a promotion clause puts him above if they go up?

Judging by his pretty average form in the Championship, I’m glad he didn’t end up here clogging up our wage bill. Didn’t think that at the time though.

[BabylonClaret]

You said we signed one. We didn’t. How did we prioritise it if we didn’t sign a cm? That just doesn’t make sense at all.

I said we "signed" one. Sorry - shorthand for have a bid accepted and talking to the player. He chose elsewhere - it was late in the window as well you know.

Don't split hairs. You know what I meant- that just because we didn't land a CM didn't mean we weren't prioritising it.

Are you this obtuse on purpose?

[BabylonClaret]

Judging by his pretty average form in the Championship, I’m glad he didn’t end up here clogging up our wage bill. Didn’t think that at the time though.

No. Me neither. I was gutted at the tine as I thought he could do a job centrally or out wide.

Like you say though he's hardly ripped up trees there has he. Who knows though. Maybe if he had come here the challenge ge might have spurred him on?

But on balance I think it looks like we dodged one there

[Newcastleclaret93]

Looking at the positives on the potentially mounie transfer, he had a decent season in 18-19 with Huddersfield in the prem

[bobinho]

Another vote here for letting Stephens have a run in the side, whilst prioritising CF and RM. Of course, if we can get a decent CM, be a shame to let it go but let’s be honest, we won’t be getting 3 in anytime soon.

[randomclaret2]

Looking at the positives on the potentially mounie transfer, he had a decent season in 18-19 with Huddersfield in the prem

He scored 2 goals in 31 appearances in a side that got relegated.

[RVclaret]

He scored 2 goals in 31 appearances in a side that got relegated.

And has scored just 4 in 19 in a worse league this season. Donkey.

[Newcastleclaret93]

He scored 2 goals in 31 appearances in a side that got relegated.

The season before I meant. He got 7 goals and 1 assist in 28 games

[BabylonClaret]

Another vote here for letting Stephens have a run in the side, whilst prioritising CF and RM. Of course, if we can get a decent CM, be a shame to let it go but let’s be honest, we won’t be getting 3 in anytime soon.

I agree. We will do well to land 2. And whilst last season I thought he looked awful (and I also thought was a dreadful signing) I think he has looked decent in his appearances this season (including his cameo against Utd). Almost like a different player (certainly wish we had signed him back in 2016

At the very least I think he can come on to stabilise part through (or even start against Watford seeing as Brownhill is missing)

[BabylonClaret]

The season before I meant. He got 7 goals and 1 assist in 28 games

Mmm. It's still hopeful he will repeat and then he probably hit most of those early in the season when they caught folks out?

7 in 28 isn't worth shelling out for a 28 year old for me. I'd be disappointed with this.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Mmm. It's still hopeful he will repeat and then he probably hit most of those early in the season when they caught folks out?

7 in 28 isn't worth shelling out for a 28 year old for me. I'd be disappointed with this.

Don’t get me wrong I don’t think he fills Woods boots by any stretch of the imagination. Just trying to find the positives in the deal if it were to happen

[BabylonClaret]

I know. I mulled over too but I can't really see much positive in adding a player like that long term.

Plus they have a shot at the playoffs - either he will be expensive or they don't want him - either way I think its a bigger risk than Carroll

[davetheclaret]

If we sell Tarks, the windfall for Brentford may enable them to add a few million to the Johnson deal and end up scuppering our chances (if we are in for him).

Him and the young Stoke striker would really be a signal of our intent for the future and where Pace and co see us growing in the future

If we did sell Tarky and could use the money from his sale plus the money from the Wood sale and bring in Campbell and Johnson, play Collins along side Mee and put McNeil into the center of midfield, bring Cornet back into the side id be well happy, i don't know what others think, but for me its the start of a rebuild, we may need to change the shape to suit the players, weather Dyche would do that who knows.

[California Colner]

There isn’t going to be any signings this 🪟
After our good draw at Arsenal our owners and Dyche have deemed it that we have enough to stay up. This time every year we have a huge thread on transfers and have the the same result. Why bother having this thread

[ClaretAL]

Because out of these threads 3 out of the 20 links become reality, and you learn who are trust worthy sources on the forum but also in the football world

[Burnley Ace]

There isn’t going to be any signings this 🪟
After our good draw at Arsenal our owners and Dyche have deemed it that we have enough to stay up. This time every year we have a huge thread on transfers and have the the same result. Why bother having this thread

Or they have seen we have the spirit and ability to stay up and we will get a couple of players in this week.

[Pearcey]

Fulgini to Monchengladbach.

Looks that way. Mercato saying it’s his preferred destination.

[Hedontplayforyou]

Looks that way. Mercato saying it’s his preferred destination.

Isn’t this what they said about Cornet and Hertha?

[Pearcey]

Isn’t this what they said about Cornet and Hertha?

Yeah, maybe agents are trying to get more money.

[rob63]

And has scored just 4 in 19 in a worse league this season. Donkey.

I've seen some of their matches & he's missed some sitters too, he seems put away difficult chances but miss the easier ones

[Vegas Claret]

I don't know much about Mounie, I remember Huddersfield fans saying Arfield was crap though.

[dermotdermot]

Oh dear!

[BFC123]

I’ve looked all over Twitter and Sky’s Transfer Centre and haven’t been able to find this Mounie link other than 2 tweets yesterday, the first from an account with 13 followers. Has anyone got a reliable link to the story?

[RVclaret]

I’ve looked all over Twitter and Sky’s Transfer Centre and haven’t been able to find this Mounie link other than 2 tweets yesterday, the first from an account with 13 followers. Has anyone got a reliable link to the story?

Think one of the presenters mentioned it on air but yeah nothing at all online so maybe it was nothing.

[jojomk1]

Mounie is a big lump at best - a younger version of Carroll

Just what SD is looking for, to take the pressure off our weak midfield as the ball is hoofed out of our defense

Sorry, don't mean to sound disparaging, but it is pretty much what we see most games

We just don't have the necessary skill, power and pace to play through the midfield

[CrosspoolClarets]

The kind of player I’d like is Viktor Tsygankov from Dinamo Kiev. Young, fast winger, scores a lot of goals.

We have to take advantage where we can. Sadly, war is coming. A player in the Ukraine may jump at the chance for a move and put a lot of pressure on at his end. The club has to figure out how to get very good players amid rivalry in the market with Newcastle probably trying to gazump whoever we try to bring in (I see they want Ramsey now as well as Lingard or Alli).

[minnieclaret]

The kind of player I’d like is Viktor Tsygankov from Dinamo Kiev. Young, fast winger, scores a lot of goals.
Sadly, war is coming.

If he doesn’t get called up in the next week.

[Boss Hogg]

Mounie is a big lump at best - a younger version of Carroll

Just what SD is looking for, to take the pressure off our weak midfield as the ball is hoofed out of our defense

Sorry, don't mean to sound disparaging, but it is pretty much what we see most games

We just don't have the necessary skill, power and pace to play through the midfield

Which is why midfield needs desperately strengthening and has done for a few windows. A big lump and long balls as a main tactic doesn’t really cut it these days.

[warksclaret]

Which is why midfield needs desperately strengthening and has done for a few windows. A big lump and long balls as a main tactic doesn’t really cut it these days.

Granted we do desperately need an authoritative CM-but I have been at four of our 0-0 draws this season, and had we played another hour per game would still not have scored. Arsenal was the classic case-a poacher/goal scorer and we may have stolen all 3 points. I have noticed that when the whole team raises their game it somewhat compensates for having a weakened central midfield.Jay & Vydra are not natural PL goal scorers despite their willing running

[NewClaret]

Which is why midfield needs desperately strengthening and has done for a few windows. A big lump and long balls as a main tactic doesn’t really cut it these days.

Is it this or is it how we play - low block, etc?

I fail to see how we can “play it through midfield” when our midfield is so close to our defence? Makes it harder, anyway.

[Bullabill]

A big lump and long balls as a main tactic doesn’t really cut it these days.

Sounds uncomfortable if not downright painful.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Is it this or is it how we play - low block, etc?

I fail to see how we can “play it through midfield” when our midfield is so close to our defence? Makes it harder, anyway.

Most teams defend deep, we just transition our play differently. We go direct to try catch attacking teams out, others try to play it through along the the ground.

I think a happy medium is somewhere in the middle.

[RVclaret]

Is it this or is it how we play - low block, etc?

I fail to see how we can “play it through midfield” when our midfield is so close to our defence? Makes it harder, anyway.

We’d need to play the system we did when we finished 7th with an extra man (Hendrick at the time) behind the striker. Having the extra body in there helped progress the ball and provide more passing options to the defence/midfield. When we play 4-4-2 the two strikers are quite distant at times.

Plus there was Defour who was just brilliant at finding space to play in, having the speed of thought to play the pass, the vision to play line breaking balls and almost always having the right weight on the pass.

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/footbal ... ando-Broja

Saying Lorient want 8m for Lauriente

[Quickenthetempo]

I don't want to panic anybody anymore but the Italian agent on SSN yesterday suggested you need a minimum of 72 hours to get work permits done for British-EU transfers now.

The clock is ticking.

[HahaYeah]

Burnley keen on Lorient forward Armand Laurienté

https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2 ... lauriente/

[Lancasterclaret]

I don't want to panic anybody anymore but the Italian agent on SSN yesterday suggested you need a minimum of 72 hours to get work permits done for British-EU transfers now.

The clock is ticking.

I don't know about this, but if everything is in place awaiting the work permit, and the criteria is met, then isn't this something that could count as "done" and the WP stuff be confirmed after the window?

[Quickenthetempo]

I don't know about this, but if everything is in place awaiting the work permit, and the criteria is met, then isn't this something that could count as "done" and the WP stuff be confirmed after the window?

It's possible, but if we failed to get a WP for the player after the deadline, we won't have a plan B player to switch to.

[Lancasterclaret]

It's possible, but if we failed to get a WP for the player after the deadline, we won't have a plan B player to switch to.

Which is why I said if the criteria for the WP is met

Be interesting to know for sure if this is allowed (as its got to be covered by the "awaiting paperwork but its complete") bit that allows transfers to be ratified after the deadline

[warksclaret]

If you look under Wikidpedia it says he plays for Burnley FC

[Mala591]

Armand Lauriente

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/armand- ... ler/579930

[Silkyskills1]

I think a happy medium is somewhere in the middle.

Invariably where you might find it.