Trump's Lies

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:27 pm

I'm at work at the minute and don't currently have time to go over old ground. My personal reason for voting leave though, is because I'm from an area of the country that has been absolutely decimated by cheap imports, and being too far away from the physical links to europe

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:31 pm

Damo wrote:I'm at work at the minute and don't currently have time to go over old ground. My personal reason for voting leave though, is because I'm from an area of the country that has been absolutely decimated by cheap imports, and being too far away from the physical links to europe

But wasn't one of the arguments in favour of leaving that we don't need to worry about losing cheap imports because we will be able to trade with the rest of the world?

PhilC · Post by **PhilC** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:05 pm

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40782299" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:08 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:14 pm

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 8:19 pm

Don't worry everyone. I'm sure Trump will pivot to being presidential and competent any day now.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:21 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:But wasn't one of the arguments in favour of leaving that we don't need to worry about losing cheap imports because we will be able to trade with the rest of the world?

Charlie, I've been over and over these arguments a thousand times in here. My initial post on this thread was in defence of the elderly being accused of trying young people's lives.
If you want an answer to your post, trawl back through my old posts. It won't take a man of your skills and determination long to read my views

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Don't worry everyone. I'm sure Trump will pivot to being presidential and competent any day now.

Unfortunately, it really hurts, but I'm going to have to agree with you; Trumps a c*nt.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:25 pm

Damo wrote:Charlie, I've been over and over these arguments a thousand times in here. My initial post on this thread was in defence of the elderly being accused of trying young people's lives.
If you want an answer to your post, trawl back through my old posts. It won't take a man of your skills and determination long to read my views

I don't need to to know that your current argument is in contradiction with the leave campaign's argument.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:53 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't need to to know that your current argument is in contradiction with the leave campaign's argument.

I couldn't care less about leave or remains argument. Nor yours as it happens. Have a good night

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Mon Jul 31, 2017 10:06 pm

The Mooch gone

If they put all this in The West Wing TV show, everyone would
slam it as ridiculous plot lines.

Incredible.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:45 am

More Trump lies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... &tid=sm_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Why all the lies and cover-ups if there's nothing worth investigating?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:36 am

Monday morning -------------------------------------------------------------- Monday afternoon

But CNN is biased

ablueclaret · Post by **ablueclaret** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:39 am

Indeed it might be if he can get his head around the need to promulgate the good news and keep himself out of the limelight.
A difficult ask.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 6:53 pm

Do any of you socialists have an opinion on what's going on in Venuzuela? Regarding what Corbyns champion Maduro is up to?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 9:58 pm

Damo wrote:Do any of you socialists have an opinion on what's going on in Venuzuela? Regarding what Corbyns champion Maduro is up to?

He's about as much a representation of socialism as Trump is a representation of capitalism.

Who, by the way, is now directly implicated in an attempt at covering up the Russia scandal.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... a-scandal/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Also, remember when the Daily Mail front page said three judges were the "Enemy of the People"? Imagien is Theresa May had said that. She'd have been thrown out of office by her own party. Trump said the exact same thing about America's free press - "they're the enemy of the people".

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:25 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:He's about as much a representation of socialism as Trump is a representation of capitalism.

Jeremy Corbyn doesnt... sorry, didn't think so.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:27 am

What?

Anyway...

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:12 am

Damo wrote:Do any of you socialists have an opinion on what's going on in Venuzuela? Regarding what Corbyns champion Maduro is up to?

Talk Radio are discussing Venezuela now.

The average person has lost 9kg in weight during the last 2 years, due to the lack of food.

People going missing in the night.

All the usual signs of far left authoritarian regime. A regime supported by the top Labour lot.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:13 pm

Why does he lie like this?

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing- ... called-his" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:47 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Talk Radio are discussing Venezuela now.

The average person has lost 9kg in weight during the last 2 years, due to the lack of food.

People going missing in the night.

All the usual signs of far left authoritarian regime. A regime supported by the top Labour lot.

Idiot

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:54 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:Talk Radio are discussing Venezuela now.

The average person has lost 9kg in weight during the last 2 years, due to the lack of food.

People going missing in the night.

All the usual signs of far left authoritarian regime. A regime supported by the top Labour lot.

Says the one who supports concentration camps for Muslims and thinks political opponents are traitors.

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:04 pm

IanMcL wrote:Idiot

They interviewed the chairman of the cross party parliamentary group for Venezuela.

He is the Labour MP for Accy. He said that Venezuela had more oil than Saudi Arabia and should be as cash rich as the latter.

The presenter suggested that the corrupt hard left government, that was locking up opposition politicians, was, perhaps mis-handling the economy. And the fact that the top Labour leadership, held up Venezuela as a fine example of socialist utopia, was something of a concern!

Talk about digging a hole!!!

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:06 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Says the one who supports concentration camps for Muslims and thinks political opponents are traitors.

I do not engage with idiots
They only lower you down to their level, and beat you with experience....

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:16 pm

June 27th:

RingoMcCartney wrote:I dont engage with an idiot because you will drag me down to your level and then beat me with experience.

July 17th:

RingoMcCartney wrote: I find they will only bring you down to their level, and beat you with experience.

August 2nd:

RingoMcCartney wrote: They only lower you down to their level, and beat you with experience....

Bless. Ringo learned a new saying this summer.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:40 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:They interviewed the chairman of the cross party parliamentary group for Venezuela.

He is the Labour MP for Accy. He said that Venezuela had more oil than Saudi Arabia and should be as cash rich as the latter.

The presenter suggested that the corrupt hard left government, that was locking up opposition politicians, was, perhaps mis-handling the economy. And the fact that the top Labour leadership, held up Venezuela as a fine example of socialist utopia, was something of a concern!

Talk about digging a hole!!!

I am not so sure that a government dictatorship using the military to maintain its existance can be described as hard left.
Hugo Chavez was the leader who used the oil wealth to change things for the people. Just as everywhere, the rich took it all back, after his death.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:45 pm

So the Daily Mail is complaining about tighter EU border controls.

Didn't we leave the EU so we could have tighter border controls? The hypocrisy of all those who wanted to leave!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hours.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 1:51 pm

Spijed wrote:So the Daily Mail is complaining about tighter EU border controls.

Didn't we leave the EU so we could have tighter border controls? The hypocrisy of all those who wanted to leave!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... hours.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Check out the byline. They had 4 reporters on that story!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:14 pm

It's amusing that all the controls those leaving said we could take back didn't realise it'll affect them in just the same way

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:22 pm

He can't stop lying

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mexican-pre ... rder-work/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:41 pm

8 pages of trump this, trump that. You mention Maduro and nobody wants to engage

Obviously the liberals/lefties/sjw's/remoaners etc on here are only interested in social justice if it fits their narrative.
Hypocrites (like we already knew)

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:45 pm

Damo wrote:8 pages of trump this, trump that. You mention Maduro and nobody wants to engage

Obviously the liberals/lefties/sjw's/remoaners etc on here are only interested in social justice if it fits their narrative.
Hypocrites (like we already knew)

I replied you dumb ****. Start a Maduro thread if you want people to pay attention to your Maduro whine. Why would you expect someone to open a Trump thread to talk about Maduro?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:01 pm

Zzzzzzzzzz........

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:08 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:I've never satisfied a woman.

Thanks for sharing.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:13 pm

Corbyn fawning over El presidente

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4154487/w ... crackdown/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:23 pm

I wonder if any of those who are expressing what i'm sure is genuine outrage at the plight faced by the Venezuelan people, and not just consider it a convenient prop with which to attack a politician they disagree with, would join me in encouraging the Venezuelans most at risk of Maduro's apparent tyranny to make their way to the UK embassy where we can offer them food, shelter and transport to the UK where they can live under the freedoms they are denied at home. I mean, that would make perfect sense if you are genuinely concerned for the people, which i'm cetain you are.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:40 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I replied you dumb ****. Start a Maduro thread if you want people to pay attention to your Maduro whine. Why would you expect someone to open a Trump thread to talk about Maduro?

Personal insults

your so easily triggered Charlie.
Your quite happy to argue about Brexit here. But not your socialist champion?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 3:53 pm

Damo wrote:Personal insults your so easily triggered Charlie.
Your quite happy to argue about Brexit here. But not your socialist champion?

Who's my socialist champion? I wasn't aware I had one.

What argument have you made? All you've done is ask a question, to which i replied. And now here you are screeching like an autist complaining that i'm not replying, and suggesting that i'm the one that's triggered. You're screaming and crying that no one is arguing against an argument you haven't made and it's i'm that's triggered? lol.

You haven't made an argument. No one with arguing Maduro with you because you've said nothing that warrants a debate. If you wanted a debate about him you'd have started your own thread, but you don't. You just want to try and derail another thread that is upsetting you, and that makes you a troll.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 5:30 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I wonder if any of those who are expressing what i'm sure is genuine outrage at the plight faced by the Venezuelan people, and not just consider it a convenient prop with which to attack a politician they disagree with, would join me in encouraging the Venezuelans most at risk of Maduro's apparent tyranny to make their way to the UK embassy where we can offer them food, shelter and transport to the UK where they can live under the freedoms they are denied at home. I mean, that would make perfect sense if you are genuinely concerned for the people, which i'm cetain you are.

come on soapy you know the rules, you claim asylum in the nearest safe country

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:25 pm

He's a politician did anyone really expected him to be truthful?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 02, 2017 6:26 pm

claretandy wrote:come on soapy you know the rules, you claim asylum in the nearest safe country

so the answer is yes, to you their plight really is just a political stick to beat people with. You're right to use the twisted emoticon.

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 6:20 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:so the answer is yes, to you their plight really is just a political stick to beat people with. You're right to use the twisted emoticon.

Turtle pls, just let this thread die already.

Loyalclaret · Post by **Loyalclaret** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:43 am

Keep it coming on this thread Turtle, good to hear how the leader of the free world is doing.

Chobulous · Post by **Chobulous** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 8:56 am

Screeching like an autist - come on Wolfie, not very PC using an analogy like that to insult somebody. You disagree with me so you must be autistic. Bit beyond the pale even for you.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:14 am

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Turtle pls, just let this thread die already.

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Why? Has he stopped lying?

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 9:24 am

Yawn...

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:42 pm

When I think of Donald Trump, I just don't think President. It just doesn't seem to equate somehow.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 2:53 pm

Newsweek have stopped giving a ****.

40 days at golf clubs, and he's got the next 17 days vacation.

"I would not be a president who took vacations. I would not be a president that takes time off.” - Donald Trump

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 3:24 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:When I think of Donald Trump, I just don't think President. It just doesn't seem to equate somehow.

I think it was Frankie Boyle who said Donald Trump looks like someone playing a President in a porno.

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:21 pm

Grand jury convened by special counsel Robert Mueller in connection with
the Trump/Russia investigation. Has the power to bring charges.

Beginning of the end?