New striker incoming

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:07 am

Isaac success , Nigerian striker currently at Watford

welsbyswife · Post by **welsbyswife** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:12 am

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Isaac success , Nigerian striker currently at Watford

He looked impressive when he came on against us in a little cameo appearance. Not sure why he didn't feature much for them last year though.

Stockbrokerbelt · Post by **Stockbrokerbelt** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:14 am

Who in their right mind would take Ings, fitness would be & is a real concern, we have lost pace & power & need to replace like for like which most teams have in the Prem, were well blessed with good target men need the pace elemeny now. Watford have a big brute with pace & power who caused up no amount of problems when he came on who might be a good shout.

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:14 am

Is Chris Woods the new Jeff Hendricks?

jdrobbo · Post by **jdrobbo** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:19 am

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:22 am

One thing we really really don't need is another target man!

Funkydrummer · Post by **Funkydrummer** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:22 am

Get your money on Lucas Perez - £14m should get him.

That's what I think anyway.

Browntuba · Post by **Browntuba** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:22 am

Stockbrokerbelt wrote:Who in their right mind would take Ings, fitness would be & is a real concern, we have lost pace & power & need to replace like for like which most teams have in the Prem, were well blessed with good target men need the pace elemeny now. Watford have a big brute with pace & power who caused up no amount of problems when he came on who might be a good shout.

The Watford player you're referring to may be M'baye Niang who was on loan there from Milan back end of last season. Presume he's still a Milan player, but yes he was a handful, big strong and rapid.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:26 am

Browntuba wrote:The Watford player you're referring to may be M'baye Niang who was on loan there from Milan back end of last season. Presume he's still a Milan player, but yes he was a handful, big strong and rapid.

Niang. Wants to come back to england. Has linked hinself with arsenal and everton. Would be an impressive signing but hes a wide player.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:30 am

Which side? We need a wide player

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:31 am

Rumour has it that we've outbid Barcelona for Coutinho

Herts Clarets · Post by **Herts Clarets** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:39 am

Browntuba wrote:The Watford player you're referring to may be M'baye Niang who was on loan there from Milan back end of last season. Presume he's still a Milan player, but yes he was a handful, big strong and rapid.

Was he the player who scored the header from a left wing cross down at the far end?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:46 am

Just to offer a bit of balance, Wood did score 27 goals in the Championship last season which is pretty impressive. He's only 25 as well which is obviously another plus. However, I've seen his goals and most of them are sweaty tap-ins. I've seen little to suggest that he's much more than a 1-season wonder to be honest. Plus his goal celebrations are crap.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:47 am

Chris Wood is a poor man's Sam Vokes

CnBtruntru · Post by **CnBtruntru** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:51 am

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Isaac success , Nigerian striker currently at Watford

17 appearances last year and 2 in Cup, only 1 goal, but I seem to remember they played him more as a winger/wide man as he is very fast, I think he lost out when Niang came in as he is still only 21 and would expect way down the pecking order now.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:54 am

SkiptonClaret wrote:Got to hope that bfccrazy's idea of an "exciting big upgrade" isn't Shane Long.

Shane Long would be an excellent signing

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:55 am

CnBtruntru wrote:17 appearances last year and 2 in Cup, only 1 goal, but I seem to remember they played him more as a winger/wide man as he is very fast, I think he lost out when Niang came in as he is still only 21 and would expect way down the pecking order now.

Success would be a very good signing . I suspect he will end up back abroad

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:57 am

ClaretTony wrote:Shane Long would be an excellent signing

The description from the original poster makes it sound like its not shane long

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:57 am

Based on ten minutes at the turf?

Nothing suggest to me that he would be anything other than Isaac Underwhelming.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:59 am

ClaretTony wrote:Shane Long would be an excellent signing

3 goals last season !

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:06 am

joey13 wrote:3 goals last season !

Still a very good player

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:12 am

I'd take Long all day Long

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:16 am

Good work rate but i wouldnt say he has the goals in him but he might be the best we can get hold of

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:19 am

Please can it be Charlie Austin.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:21 am

Chris Wood is a good player and Indigo said a lot of his goals are tap ins, but that's because he knows where to be. You'd be surprised how often he's in the right place at the right time to get those tap ins. He just knows where to run. However, as much as I think he's a very good forward, he's not someone I'd replace Gray with. If we signed Wood, we'd still need a pacey direct forward like Gray, and I can't see us signing 2. Long would be a better option.

Fez · Post by **Fez** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:21 am

Austin perfect for a dyche team

NottsClaret · Post by **NottsClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:21 am

I'd be happy enough with Shane Long and one of Dawson/Shawcross.

I'm sure I'm missing out on some wonderkid playing for a painfully hipster club in the Eredivisie or Ligue One who's like a total beast or something. But I've seen those three play well in the Prem for a few years so I reckon they'll be good.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:24 am

Charlie Austin would be the very best we could hope for, but his injury problems and him probably seeing us as a backward step make it unlikely.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:25 am

It's all subjective really, put a player in a position to score and it's how he reacts. Long is quite sharp in and around the box and good in the air with a terrific spring for a smallish lad. If we were to buy him and play him into good positions I'm sure his return would improve.

He is the only one I know much about, most of the overseas players are just names, some exotic and others pronounceable.

We have a good record of bringing in the right tools for the job, If we get a striker let's just hope he turns out to be as good as Andy Gray, Austin, Ings and Andre Gray. I won't include Fletcher as much was made of him but his scoring record with us, and before and after isn't anywhere near those mentioned.

Walt · Post by **Walt** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:25 am

ClaretEngineer wrote:Please can it be Charlie Austin.

I'd definitely have him back on ability but same situation as Ings for me. An injury waiting to happen with his record. A lower risk loan then maybe but I'd still want insurance with another striker too.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:26 am

JohnMac wrote:It's all subjective really, put a player in a position to score and it's how he reacts. Long is quite sharp in and around the box and good in the air with a terrific spring for a smallish lad. If we were to buy him and play him into good positions I'm sure his return would improve.

He is the only one I know much about, most of the overseas players are just names, some exotic and others just unpronounceable.

We have a good record of bringing in the right tools for the job. If we get a striker let's just hope he turns out to be as good as Andy Gray, Austin, Ings and Andre Gray. I won't include Fletcher as much was made of him but his scoring record with us, and before and after isn't anywhere near those mentioned.

ClaretEngineer · Post by **ClaretEngineer** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:26 am

agreenwood wrote:Charlie Austin would be the very best we could hope for, but his injury problems and him probably seeing us as a backward step make it unlikely.

I don't think it would matter too much, so long as our new look midfield has licence to bombard the box with crosses. He's certainly no slouch either.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:27 am

If it is Long has there ever been a time when BFC has had three players with the same surname?

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:28 am

If would also childishly amuse me as his shirt would read 'S.Long'.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:28 am

Blooming 'eck I'm getting a tad excited now and quoting myself

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:28 am

Blooming 'eck I'm getting a tad excited now and quoting myself

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:30 am

I wouldn't be overly happy with Long. He's not far off 31, which means we'll be getting the tail end of his career.

He's never really been prolific either. His best ever Prem season saw him score 10. Every other season has been single digits.

HelloHiGoodbye · Post by **HelloHiGoodbye** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:36 am

Anyone thinking Gray will be easy to replace/improve upon - look at the names mentioned on this thread and others. They're either not good enough, similar to what we've already got, not prolific or unrealistic.

We require a striker who's quick, powerful, can hold the ball up, can play on the shoulder of the last man, can score double figures (ideally approaching twenty goals) and ideally someone who's young enough for us to make a profit on.

Who's that? Where are they? How much will they cost? Are they going to want to come to Burnley?

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:47 am

agreenwood wrote:I wouldn't be overly happy with Long. He's not far off 31, which means we'll be getting the tail end of his career.

He's never really been prolific either. His best ever Prem season saw him score 10. Every other season has been single digits.

So which 20 goal a season Premier League striker do you suggest - and is willing to come to Burnley?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:49 am

Papabendi wrote:I'd take Long all day Long

I really don`t get this `love in` with Shane Long. As another poster pointed out, he only scored 3 Premier League goals last season so he`s three times worse than Gray.

This obsession with the Irish National team must have a medical term???

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:58 am

King, Defoe, Llorente, Vardy, Deeney, Vokes. They're the players who played for a bottom-13 club last year who scored 10 goals or more. 10 is prolific at our level.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:58 am

HelloHiGoodbye wrote:Anyone thinking Gray will be easy to replace/improve upon - look at the names mentioned on this thread and others. They're either not good enough, similar to what we've already got, not prolific or unrealistic.

We require a striker who's quick, powerful, can hold the ball up, can play on the shoulder of the last man, can score double figures (ideally approaching twenty goals) and ideally someone who's young enough for us to make a profit on.

Who's that? Where are they? How much will they cost? Are they going to want to come to Burnley?

We've got £50m in unbudgeted transfer fees this summer, plus whatever we were going to spend before that came in. Minus the £20m or whatever it is we've already spent and we've got a huge amount to go and invest on someone who can continue the production line.

We're now moving into the spheres of signing players for £20m+ with an aim of selling for a profit.

That means the recruitment team have to work overtime, throughout Europe, to unearth that gem who offers pace and finishing ability. We can offer higher wages than are available at most clubs in Europe, bar the elite, and that must surely appeal to an ambitious player wanting to prove himself in England.

We can show them what Burnley Football Club can do for a player. Show them Heaton and Keane's England caps. Show them where Keane, Ings and Trippier have gone after using us as a springboard. Show them videos of us beating Liverpool and Man City and Everton and Blackburn and what it means to the players and fans.

Tell them that if they come to Turf Moor, they will be offered playing time, support, and we will not stand in their way if they do so well that a bigger club offering more money comes in for them.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:02 am

HiroshimaClaret wrote:I really don`t get this `love in` with Shane Long. As another poster pointed out, he only scored 3 Premier League goals last season so he`s three times worse than Gray.

Have I just read that?

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:03 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:We've got £50m in unbudgeted transfer fees this summer, plus whatever we were going to spend before that came in. Minus the £20m or whatever it is we've already spent and we've got a huge amount to go and invest on someone who can continue the production line.

We're now moving into the spheres of signing players for £20m+ with an aim of selling for a profit.

That means the recruitment team have to work overtime, throughout Europe, to unearth that gem who offers pace and finishing ability. We can offer higher wages than are available at most clubs in Europe, bar the elite, and that must surely appeal to an ambitious player wanting to prove himself in England.

We can show them what Burnley Football Club can do for a player. Show them Heaton and Keane's England caps. Show them where Keane, Ings and Trippier have gone after using us as a springboard. Show them videos of us beating Liverpool and Man City and Everton and Blackburn and what it means to the players and fans.

Tell them that if they come to Turf Moor, they will be offered playing time, support, and we will not stand in their way if they do so well that a bigger club offering more money comes in for them.

Exactly.

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:03 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:We've got £50m in unbudgeted transfer fees this summer, plus whatever we were going to spend before that came in. Minus the £20m or whatever it is we've already spent and we've got a huge amount to go and invest on someone who can continue the production line.

We're now moving into the spheres of signing players for £20m+ with an aim of selling for a profit.

That means the recruitment team have to work overtime, throughout Europe, to unearth that gem who offers pace and finishing ability. We can offer higher wages than are available at most clubs in Europe, bar the elite, and that must surely appeal to an ambitious player wanting to prove himself in England.

We can show them what Burnley Football Club can do for a player. Show them Heaton and Keane's England caps. Show them where Keane, Ings and Trippier have gone after using us as a springboard. Show them videos of us beating Liverpool and Man City and Everton and Blackburn and what it means to the players and fans.

Tell them that if they come to Turf Moor, they will be offered playing time, support, and we will not stand in their way if they do so well that a bigger club offering more money comes in for them.

Super post and yet so frustrating to see us linked with the likes of Long and Wood.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:04 am

ClaretTony wrote:Have I just read that?

Me too, I thought I'd seen it all.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:06 am

ClaretTony wrote:Have I just read that?

Get a sense of humour, Tony! Lordy!!!! My 1-year-old is having a good chuckle now. THANKS.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:08 am

RVclaret wrote:Me too, I thought I'd seen it all.

Check yourselves in for a sense of humour bypass.

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:09 am

If bfccrazy thinks this striker is capable of getting 15 goals for us, its not going to be Shane Long. My guess is its somebody who actually has hit this amount in the prem before at some point, step forward Wlifred Bony.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:14 am

Conroy92 wrote:If bfccrazy thinks this striker is capable of getting 15 goals for us, its not going to be Shane Long. My guess is its somebody who actually has hit this amount in the prem before at some point, step forward Wlifred Bony.

Bony, more than any of the other UK-based players mentioned, would seem to fit the bill but only, of course if City agree to pay 50% (maybe more!) of his weekly wage.