Next manager

[helmclaret]

76 pages of hurt, never stopped me dreaming…

Edit. 77 now!

[KRBFC]

I can safely say I hated over 95% of the football I watched last year, give me Dyche type ball over that clueless nonsense every day of the week. I get zero enjoyment in watching us fail to compete in almost every home game.

We won 1 game in 6-7 months under Dyche.

It’s easy sticking 11 men behind the ball and defending, people don’t respect that and football fans don’t want to watch it.

Attendances were rapidly on the decline, the fans voted with their feet. Soon as Dyche left, the fans returned and were treated to football only Sean could dream of.

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

[KRBFC]

One season wages were higher but never exceeded something like 75% of turnover or whatever - nor did we have an auditors warning through his tenure.

The wages inflate/deflate relative to performance and league position.

Dyche is a far, far superior manager than Kompany.

We’ll see who ends up with more trophies at the end of their managerial careers.

[Wokingclaret]

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

Kompany might already be on a tightrope

[willsclarets]

We won 1 game in 6-7 months under Dyche.

It’s easy sticking 11 men behind the ball and defending, people don’t respect that and football fans don’t want to watch it.

Attendances were rapidly on the decline, the fans voted with their feet. Soon as Dyche left, the fans returned and were treated to football only Sean could dream of.

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

I agree people seem to forget just how bad that last season was. I don't blame Dyche entirely, because purely from a resource point of view he was given absolutely nothing for a long time. The squad needed refreshing long before it ran out of steam, and the football (to a degree, because he was always pragmatic first) suffered as the squad matured past its peak. It's certainly not true we always played horrible football under Dyche either, when the balance was right we were tough and resiliant but played some lovely football in the final third too. But that last year, was woeful.

Last year was horrible too, but I accepted it because I could see a potential destination. Despite having so few wins, I still looked at the squad and thought it will get to a place where we stay up comfortably. There's exciting players in there, and if you're looking at a 3 or 4 year project I didn't think we were in bad shape at all. I'd certainly rather be a manager walking into this, than what Kompany walked into previously. Again that's not on Dyche mainly, but chronic under investment

[Wile E Coyote]

We won 1 game in 6-7 months under Dyche.

It’s easy sticking 11 men behind the ball and defending, people don’t respect that and football fans don’t want to watch it.

Attendances were rapidly on the decline, the fans voted with their feet. Soon as Dyche left, the fans returned and were treated to football only Sean could dream of.

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

that isn't correct. Dyche had a job to do here with meagre resources, it was a feat and a half to achieve promotion on comparative peanuts. VK was not working with same constraints due to the ownership change. Both did remarkably well under differing circumstances. Dyche at everton is another story, has to be applauded for agreeing to work in that mire, but he has done well. Also, Dyche didnt have the luxury of cobbling together any form of pretty football, he had to work against ridiculously biased odds with the multi billionaire owners at every turn. If you expected Real Madrid football with those constraints, you were deluded.

[ClaretTony]

You’re acting like we didn’t win one game in 7 months in Dyches final season whilst spending £100m a year on wages. Couldn’t break a side down for toffee, regularly outplayed by lower league dross because we played their game.

The football was atrocious, fans don’t want to watch that crap these days, look at the stick Southgate receives even when they win, Moyes forced out by the fans despite winning a European trophy.

You prefer the football that sees us win two out of nineteen league games with an astonishing 43 goals conceded do you? You might like that, I don't and I was delighted when the manager left. Last season was soul destroying and a manager who never one accepted any responsibility for it.

[CoolClaret]

We won 1 game in 6-7 months under Dyche.

It’s easy sticking 11 men behind the ball and defending, people don’t respect that and football fans don’t want to watch it.

Attendances were rapidly on the decline, the fans voted with their feet. Soon as Dyche left, the fans returned and were treated to football only Sean could dream of.

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

If you think that Dyche simply stuck 11 men behind the ball and defended then you're even more clueless than I thought you were.

We competed for 7 years with Dyche in the PL on a relative shoestring, completely transforming the entire club yet you can't even give him credit for that.

[HahaYeah]

Dyche did his best for Burnley FC.

Kompany did his best for Kompany.

[Blyclaret]

That’s spot on

[ksrclaret]

You prefer the football that sees us win two out of nineteen league games with an astonishing 43 goals conceded do you? You might like that, I don't and I was delighted when the manager left. Last season was soul destroying and a manager who never one accepted any responsibility for it.

I’m in full agreement with this.

I was absolutely dreading another season with the previous manager still in charge, but now I feel a renewed sense of optimism whoever the new manager turns out to be. Last season was horrible viewing every single week.

[BurnleyFC]

We’ll see who ends up with more trophies at the end of their managerial careers.

Vinny mentioned a couple of times even after we’d won the league that we were still only the 21st best team in the country. I think he might’ve also agreed that he was the 19th best manager in the Premier League - behind Sean Dyche - who tactically outwitted him three times last season.

Fair play to him, but he’s been extremely fortunate to land the Bayern Munich job.

[Steddyman]

This is all very well providing that the “potential” brought into the club has got a good resale value after a season or two.
Looking at the numerous players of potential Kompany signed at a considerable outlay I would seriously question this business model.
A new manager has got a serious job on his hands offloading some of this massive potential and at the same time trying to turn a profit on them.

Did I say that what Dyche achieved wasn't success? Did I say his players weren't good?

No, I said the 'Pace' business model is to buy youth and sell for profit. That will not change with a new manager, and will be a critical deciding factor for Pace. It doesn't matter whether we think it is the right model or not. Personally I think we were crying out for some experience in the team last year. There should be a balance for sure.

[dsr]

We won 1 game in 6-7 months under Dyche.

It’s easy sticking 11 men behind the ball and defending, people don’t respect that and football fans don’t want to watch it.

Attendances were rapidly on the decline, the fans voted with their feet. Soon as Dyche left, the fans returned and were treated to football only Sean could dream of.

One is managing Bayern Munich the other is walking a tightrope at Everton.

It's simply a matter of what each of us wants from football. I personally found Dyche's championship winning season to be very exciting; you were bored by it. And I thought last season was terrible, while you were entertained. That's fine.

But you are in a minority. As the replies suggest, I am certain that most people find promotion with Dyche better than relegation with Kompany.

[KRBFC]

It's simply a matter of what each of us wants from football. I personally found Dyche's championship winning season to be very exciting; you were bored by it. And I thought last season was terrible, while you were entertained. That's fine.

But you are in a minority. As the replies suggest, I am certain that most people find promotion with Dyche better than relegation with Kompany.

You realise you don’t debate by arguing against something the other person didn’t say? You may as well just argue back and forth with yourself if you’re gonna put words into my mouth.

I never said I enjoyed last season, it was woeful for the large majority. Mistakes were made in all kinds of areas from a young rookie manager learning on the job. I just saw a vision to a brighter future.

Like someone said above I don’t think people remember how bad that last season of Dyche was though, 1 win from August until late February. Yet some will bleat on about Kompanys shortcomings in his first PL season, that absolute tosh Dyche served up for the final two years was on him stockpiling old players with zero thoughts about the future, just throwing fortunes at old crap. Zero evolution, no future succession planning, bit him on the arse.

[Rick_Muller]

Any chance of new manager news insteads of old news about old managers?

[123EasyasBFC]

We’ll see who ends up with more trophies at the end of their managerial careers.

Dyche finishing 7th is a much better achievement than kompany winning the league with Bayern.

Success is determined by trophies won

[123EasyasBFC]

Not sure if this is just following the suns story but story in Netherlands about RVN - https://x.com/televoetbal/status/180365 ... rNr6Z5x6nA

[Blyclaret]

According to twitter we are down to 3 …. RVN … Corberan … and a third that’s unknown.

[burnley007]

Not sure if this is just following the suns story but story in Netherlands about RVN - https://x.com/televoetbal/status/180365 ... rNr6Z5x6nA

Sounds like a done deal according to them.

I'd be very happy with that.

[Pearcey]

Not sure if this is just following the suns story but story in Netherlands about RVN - https://x.com/televoetbal/status/180365 ... rNr6Z5x6nA

Says the deal is close to completion.

[RVclaret]

Telegraaf should be pretty reliable.

‘In the past year, the man, who was employed by PSV for a total of six seasons and worked with almost all the talents during those years, has spent a lot of time abroad looking around, meeting with coaches and former trainers to get a good idea of ​​the continuation of his career as a coach.

In England, his arrival - Van Nistelrooy is almost finalized with Burnley on a multi-year contract - will be greeted with cheers. It still enjoys great popularity in England and certainly in the region’

[Pearcey]

I’m actually surprised that Pace has even heard of RVN.

[Father Jack]

Van Nistelrooij in waiting room after conversation with Burnley

Marco Timmer
08.37,
Today

Ruud van Nistelrooij is talking to Burnley about Vincent Kompany's succession. The 47-year-old former international counts as one of the candidates on the team that relegated from the Premier League last season.
Van Nistelrooij recently spoke to representatives of Burnley and is now awaiting a response. The former top striker has multiple options.
In May 2023, Van Nistelrooij joined PSV just before the end of the season, with which he had won the KNVB cup just before. The practice master has been without a club ever since. In recent months he spoke with former trainers and was regularly abroad to prepare for a return as head coach.
Burnley finished nineteenth in the Premier League last season with just 24 points from 38 games. Wout Weghorst, who is in the interest of Ajax and FC Twente, is under contract with The Clarets.

[CoolClaret]

I’m actually surprised that Pace has even heard of RVN.

He hadn't heard of VK before advised.

I'm pretty certain that he will have had some advisors and a team evaluate the current squad and available managers that would likely to have success with said squad/vision from the board... then it's up to Pace to go and interview them where he comes to the final decisions with the rest of the board.

[Casper2]

RVN drifted to 6/5

[bumba]

You realise you don’t debate by arguing against something the other person didn’t say? You may as well just argue back and forth with yourself if you’re gonna put words into my mouth.

I never said I enjoyed last season, it was woeful for the large majority. Mistakes were made in all kinds of areas from a young rookie manager learning on the job. I just saw a vision to a brighter future.

Like someone said above I don’t think people remember how bad that last season of Dyche was though, 1 win from August until late February. Yet some will bleat on about Kompanys shortcomings in his first PL season, that absolute tosh Dyche served up for the final two years was on him stockpiling old players with zero thoughts about the future, just throwing fortunes at old crap. Zero evolution, no future succession planning, bit him on the arse.

Your completely forgetting the fact that Garlick didn't want to spend anything too whilst he wanted to sell the club. Dyche was restricted.

[123EasyasBFC]

I think it’s more likely that the reports in The Netherlands are coming from the article in the sun yesterday

[Funkydrummer]

First opinion expressed on this vastly debated topic.
A cracking appointment if it comes off. The pending appointment
of the "assistant" makes sense now too.

BTW, "practice master" is a cracking job title

[CoolClaret]

Your completely forgetting the fact that Garlick didn't want to spend anything too whilst he wanted to sell the club. Dyche was restricted.

He hasn't forgotten; he deliberately chooses not to include it because he is intellectually dishonest.

[bfcjg]

Could it be today ?

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[HahaYeah]

Ruud van Nistelrooy is nearing an agreement and is on his way to England for several years.

Ruud van Nistelrooij is well on his way to becoming the new head coach of Burnley, at least according to De Telegraaf and other English media. The former PSV coach is approaching an agreement with the English club, which was relegated from the Premier League this season. Van Nistelrooij will succeed Vincent Kompany at Burnley.

According to De Telegraaf, the deal is almost complete. Van Nistelrooy is currently negotiating the terms of a multi-year contract with Burnley, after which the former Manchester United striker will probably soon sign a contract with the relegated team. Burnley was relegated from the Premier League this season, but saw coach Kompany take a step up despite the descent to the Championship: he is the coach of Bayern Munich.

With Kompany, Burnley had a big name as a trainer and the club wanted to bring in the same kind of coach again this time. This seems to have succeeded with Van Nistelrooij, who has a great track record in England. The former PSV coach must ensure that Burnley can compete for promotion to the Premier League next season.

The former striker's move to England is not surprising, because Van, the 47-year-old trainer, has announced in recent months that he would like to work as a trainer in a country where he played football himself. That is the case with Burnley in England.

https://onefootball.com/id/berita/ruud- ... d-39650959

[warksclaret]

Dyche did his best for Burnley FC.

Kompany did his best for Kompany.

You have hit the nail on the head. Yes we had one wonder season in the Championship under VK, but those memories are fast fading. Meanwhile those victories under SD in the PL versus Chelsea at Chelsea , Man Utd at Old Trafford, WHU away,Liverpool away and at home, Man City at home, and many more will remain for me for ever. The results were brilliant considering our resources, and the football and goals in these games was pretty good too.I felt connected to that team, whilst there was absolutely no connection with it last season. I am pretty certain SD managing our 2023/24 team in the PL would have got us more points, and more wins at home. He would have sorted the defence , been more organised, and shown more common sense. He certainly would not have been red carded twice

[Steddyman]

First opinion expressed on this vastly debated topic.
A cracking appointment if it comes off. The pending appointment
of the "assistant" makes sense now too.

BTW, "practice master" is a cracking job title

Why does the rumoured assistant make sense if it is RVN?

I'd love it to be RVN.

[HahaYeah]

Why does the rumoured assistant make sense if it is RVN?

I'd love it to be RVN.

Because as I posted further back, Ruud is reported to have fallen out with his assistants at PSV.

[Clovius Boofus]

It would be way better if people could desist from rinsing and repeating tired old arguments that add absolutely zilch to this (Next Manager) thread.

[ArmchairDetective]

I miss when we had Henrik Rydstrom as manager. The good old days.

[ClaretTony]

I note that Bellamy, who looked out of the running, has gone from 25/1 to 8/1 with Sky Bet in the last 24 hours.

[martin_p]

Like someone said above I don’t think people remember how bad that last season of Dyche was though, 1 win from August until late February. Yet some will bleat on about Kompanys shortcomings in his first PL season, that absolute tosh Dyche served up for the final two years was on him stockpiling old players with zero thoughts about the future, just throwing fortunes at old crap. Zero evolution, no future succession planning, bit him on the arse.

And at the end of that sequence of bad results under Dyche we had 17 points from 22 games. After 22 games last season we had 12 points having lost 16 of those 22 games. You can argue all you want but by any measure last season was our worst in the Premier League.

[jedi_master]

Assuming that article is correct, I am delighted. It's rolling back to how I felt when we got Kompany - excited, nervous, anticipation.

[jedi_master]

https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/12869415 ... et-burnley

[HahaYeah]

Checked the veracity of De Telegraaf on Wikipedia.

De Telegraaf is the largest Dutch daily morning newspaper. Paul Jansen has been the editor-in-chief since August 2015. De Telegraaf is based in Amsterdam and is owned by the Belgian company Mediahuis.
Circulation: 393,537 (2017)
Owner: Telegraaf Media Groep
Founded: 1 January 1893; 131 years ago

[RVclaret]

I note that Bellamy, who looked out of the running, has gone from 25/1 to 8/1 with Sky Bet in the last 24 hours.

The anti-climax is definitely in the works, RVN gets falsely reported as being close to signing, for the club to go with Bellamy and Jackson.

[Ric_C]

What I would say at this stage is that I'm glad the board are taking their time over this appointment. If you have to lose a manager, then right at the end of the previous season isn't a bad time to do it. So many clubs either panic mid-way through the season or are left in the lurch, resulting in them having to make hasty decisions with who is available at the time. I am optimistic that we will make a good appointment having weighed up all the options.

[clarets1978]

Vinny mentioned a couple of times even after we’d won the league that we were still only the 21st best team in the country. I think he might’ve also agreed that he was the 19th best manager in the Premier League - behind Sean Dyche - who tactically outwitted him three times last season.

Fair play to him, but he’s been extremely fortunate to land the Bayern Munich job.

Dyche didnt outwit us at Goodison in April, They only won that game because Muric didnt clear a ball properly. It was 2 bad sides

[Pearcey]

Dyche didnt outwit us at Goodison in April, They only won that game because Muric didnt clear a ball properly. It was 2 bad sides

DCL said that Dyche told them to pressure Muric because of the way he plays. They did, they scored, they won.

[colne-claret]

I note that Bellamy, who looked out of the running, has gone from 25/1 to 8/1 with Sky Bet in the last 24 hours.

Please don’t do this

[Hedontplayforyou]

4/1 Bellamy

[Row Z]

DCL said that Dyche told them to pressure Muric because of the way he plays. They did, they scored, they won.

A true master stroke from Dyche. Similar to putting long balls over opposing defenders heads (particularly fullbacks) and asking us to play in their half…

For what it’s worth I think Dyche is exceptional in his defensive coaching and it’s not as easy to get a side well drilled for 90+ minutes each week to shut teams out as some posters have suggested, but he’s not as talented in giving his team the freedom to be creative. The football under Kompany last year (when the players got to grips with it) was phenomenal and stuff only Dyche can dream of.

[Funkydrummer]

Because as I posted further back, Ruud is reported to have fallen out with his assistants at PSV.

Cheers HaHa, saves me the bother.

I also stand a good chance of success in the " guess the announcement date"