Trump's Lies

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:34 pm

Federal Grand Juries almost always move to indict.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Aug 04, 2017 9:31 pm

Fox News anchor Gregg Jarrett on Wednesday about Clinton: "Why were five people given immunity while others invoked the Fifth Amendment, yet no grand jury was impaneled?"

Fox News anchor Gregg Jarrett on Thursday after Trump: "grand juries are an undemocratic farce."

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:12 am

The Fox News narrative has shifted once again. First it was this is just angry democrats then it was it's fake news, then it was collusion isn't a crime, now it's literally asking "Would you even care if he was guilty?"

It's funny how easily millions of idiots who watch it are manipulated like this.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08 ... uilty.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"The stock market is up, unemployment is down and the economy seems to be picking up some steam. The streets are mostly safe, the nation is mostly secure and the world is mostly at peace. " - Fox News. Thanks Obama.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:12 am

ElectroClaret wrote:Grand jury convened by special counsel Robert Mueller in connection with
the Trump/Russia investigation. Has the power to bring charges.

Beginning of the end?

Or they realise just how little they have on him ?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:59 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:Or they realise just how little they have on him ?

I'd love to understand this logic.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:07 pm

He might be a 2hat but waiting for some evidence worthy of impeachment.

Knowing he's an idiot doesn't get him impeached

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 2:18 pm

HatfieldClaret wrote:He might be a 2hat but waiting for some evidence worthy of impeachment.

Knowing he's an idiot doesn't get him impeached

There's already evidence worthy of impeachment, and we all have it because Trump gave it on TV when he said he fired Comey to stop the Russia investigation. That's the same crime Nixon was about to get impeached over. So there's no question that the evidence already exists.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 4:09 pm

This man was a U.S. congressman. Guess which party.

bluelabrador16 · Post by **bluelabrador16** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 5:15 pm

Worth a read:

How the World May End by John Pilger

"Republicans and Democrats – along with a complicit mainstream media – are plunging ahead toward war with Russia, a mad groupthink that could end life on the planet, observes John Pilger....

"A coup against the man in the White House is under way. This is not because he is an odious human being, but because he has consistently made clear he does not want war with Russia....
"- sanity, or simple pragmatism, is anathema to the 'national security' managers who guard a system based on war, surveillance, armaments, threats and extreme capitalism.... Incredulity in Russia may have now turned to fear and perhaps a certain resolution. The Russians almost certainly have war-gamed nuclear counter strikes. Air-raid drills are not uncommon. Their history tells them to get ready......"

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/08/04/h ... d-may-end/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

America’s New War: Part 2017 by Nicholas Levis

"Following the Mooch Storm, the clique of relatively obscure but hardcore militarists whom our Kayfabe Hitler appointed to the power positions last January appear to have consolidated their control over The Trump Show as a whole. They will move to set off a big new war as soon as they can line one up, most likely in the coming fall season.

This will be what I call a “production” war, the kind that aims to enlist the active support of the American public, the kind that the media does not hide behind the Spectacle but that becomes the Spectacle. You won’t have to watch Democracy Now! to learn that it is happening. The news networks will run intro sequences, they will design animated logos for it. In other words, it will be like the invasion of Iraq in 2003, and not like the current U.S.-Saudi attack on Yemen, or any of the many other theaters targeted by the interventions and bombings and proxy operations of the last decade. (Can you name at least six? If not, congratulations: You’re still an American.)

As with past international aggressions launched by United States governments, there is a high likelihood that a murderous gambit of this kind will gain support for the regime holding power in Washington. At least in the short and middle term, criticism from both the corporate media and the majority of Democratic Party politicians will be muted........."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/08/04 ... part-2017/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:40 pm

Keep howling at the moon blue. it is entertaining if nothing else!

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:59 pm

They're all giant shape-shifting lizards, aren't they?

Even Pilger.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 6:52 am

Poor Trump. According to him the biggest victim of charlottesville, which included a terrorist attack that killed 1 and injured 19, is Donald Trump himself. Bless.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/08 ... c-meltdown" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit:

Don Lemon, CNN anchor, reaction on air: "Well, what do you say to that? I'm just going to speak from the heart here. What we have witnessed was a total eclipse of the facts. Someone who came out onstage and lied directly to the American people, and left things out that he said, in an attempt to rewrite history. Especially when it comes to Charlottesville. He's unhinged, it's embarrassing, and I don't mean for us the media because he went after us, but for the country. This is who we elected President of the United States. A man who is so petty that he has to go after people who he deems to be his enemy, like an imaginary friend of a six year old. His speech was without thought, it was without reason, it was devoid of facts, it was devoid of wisdom, there was no gravitas, there was no sanity there. He was like a child blaming a sibling...A man clearly wounded by the rational people who are abandoning him in droves..."

ecc · Post by **ecc** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 11:46 am

I've literally just watched the video corresponding to Imploding Turtle's quote (above) of Don Lemon's words. I don't think a presenter on a national TV channel in the UK would say such words about the PM (irrespective of the Party). Quite amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJJmgxPHqb8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 12:44 pm

ecc wrote:I've literally just watched the video corresponding to Imploding Turtle's quote (above) of Don Lemon's words. I don't think a presenter on a national TV channel in the UK would say such words about the PM (irrespective of the Party). Quite amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJJmgxPHqb8" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And yet 35% of "Americans" approve of the job he's doing. Idiots all.

NRC · Post by **NRC** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 1:51 pm

depends on your perspective Turtle.....

- on the wall - Yes, Mexico won't pay, and the wall hasn't started, but there are some funds allocated, but it's stuck in the Senate. Meanwhile over-the-border arrests reduced by almost half since he took over.

- on ObamaCare - Yes, a replacement not yet approved, and there are aspects of the proposal that make the jaws of sane people drop, but he's further along with reform than Hillary would have been

- On foreign policy - one thing you can say is he's made world leaders jump, for good or bad reasons, but his latest this week on Afghanistan policy and his message to Pakistan is on the money

- Oh, and States are finally tearing down statues of Confederate Leaders and Generals - because they don't want a repeat of Charlottsville. Most are during the night, in Durham it was a beautiful sight as the public tore down a statue, peacefully, in good humor, very Sadam Hussain-esque. They've arrested those that put the rope around it and did the pulling, but in reaction a 100 or so people offered themselves up for arrest, Spartacus-style, as they "were there too." There's a level of consciousness developing as a direct result of his bizarre reaction (defending is base) to the events in Charlottesville.

He's a total nutter, but let's watch Pakistan now come on board.....

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 23, 2017 2:05 pm

So he's failed on the wall, failed on Obamacare, flipped on Afghanistan and railed against the removal of statues dedicated to traitors and racists. What other perspective is there?

And all of this was warned against by the liberals his supporters hate (genuinely hate). Smart people warned he couldn't get Maxico to pay for any wall, they ignored it. Smart people warned that Obamacare repeal would be a disaster and that Trump has absolotely no plan to replace it, and they ignored it. they were warned that he was an unapologetic racist and probably a white supremacist and they were delighted. And they were warned that he has absolutely no ability to deal with foreign leaders, and they ignored it.

But he pisses off liberals so that's all alright

Mencken was right.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:33 pm

Trump supporters

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:03 am

Ha! Bush erased from Trump history!

Clarinetclaret · Post by **Clarinetclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:44 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:Trump supporters

This thread should be titled trump's lies and turtles obsession. Really really really, oh really what is wrong with you? Is your life that boring that you have to obsess about a president of a country thousands of miles away?
You really need to get out more because you come across as some sad act who has an obsession for American presidents. Get a life.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:50 am

Clarinetclaret wrote:This thread should be titled trump's lies and turtles obsession. Really really really, oh really what is wrong with you? Is your life that boring that you have to obsess about a president of a country thousands of miles away?
You really need to get out more because you come across as some sad act who has an obsession for American presidents. Get a life.

I'll start being concerned about my life when i start expressing as much concern for yours as you do for mine.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:54 am

He's renaging on his promise to donate $1 million to Hurricane Harvey victims.

https://thinkprogress.org/white-house-w ... e6dd6/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

He's also trying to cut $1 billion in disaster relief funds. Because that's a good ******* idea. Right?

Leon C · Post by **Leon C** » Sat Sep 02, 2017 3:59 am

He's going to buy some boats for Texas just been on CNN.
The guys insane

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Sep 15, 2017 12:36 am

Trump "draining" that swamp some more.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/ ... s-gift-ban" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:34 am

If you protest alongside Nazis you're very fine people but if you protest during a national anthem you should be fired.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... al-anthem/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spin this one, plebs.

Top Claret · Post by **Top Claret** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:12 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:If you protest alongside Nazis you're very fine people but if you protest during a national anthem you should be fired.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/ear ... al-anthem/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Spin this one, plebs.

Trump as always does not go far enough. Anyone who disrespects the countries national anthem should be jailed and have the key thrown away.

All these guys protesting are the usual losers. Black Americans who walk around with a chip on their shoulders thinking the world owes them a living

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:14 am

Top Claret wrote:Trump as always does not go far enough. Anyone who disrespects the countries national anthem should be jailed and have the key thrown away.

All these guys protesting are the usual losers. Black Americans who walk around with a chip on their shoulders thinking the world owes them a living

I'm not racist but........

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Sep 23, 2017 10:08 am

Top Claret wrote:Trump as always does not go far enough. Anyone who disrespects the countries national anthem should be jailed and have the key thrown away.

All these guys protesting are the usual losers. Black Americans who walk around with a chip on their shoulders thinking the world owes them a living

I'm not a Nazi but...

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:04 am

Here's what it looks like when Trump drains the swamp.
http://ijr.com/2017/09/986330-report-wh ... tom-price/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Poor FCBurnley. His face must be soooo red.

HatfieldClaret · Post by **HatfieldClaret** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 12:32 pm

can the mods just re-name the thread "the Imploding Turtle thread if anyone wants an argument"

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:01 pm

Do. not. feed. the. Turtle. Troll.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:54 pm

claretandy wrote:Do. not. feed. the. Turtle. Troll.

He has 16 posts already just on this page. Its really quite sad how he replies to his own posts in the hope somebody will respond.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:59 pm

It would be hard to respond though with pro-Trump stuff.

The only thing that is proving to be more correct that Brexit will be a disaster is Trump is actually, totally, utterly unsuited to being President of the USA.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:15 pm

FCBurnley wrote:He has 16 posts already just on this page. Its really quite sad how he replies to his own posts in the hope somebody will respond.

You do know that it's possibly to add a post without replying to another specific post, right? See that at the bottom of your page? That's a text area where you can comment.

But if you want to talk about sad things i think it's pretty sad that I, and millions of other liberals, have been proven completely correct about this retard you voted for while people like you continue to live in denial about him.

ExistentialWanderer · Post by **ExistentialWanderer** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 8:26 pm

Lancasterclaret wrote: Trump is actually, totally, utterly unsuited to being President of the USA.

You could apply that to a number of them to be fair. Nixon, Bush 1 and 2, Clinton, Trump. That's five off the bat who were/are not fit for office.

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 9:50 pm

Top Claret wrote:Trump as always does not go far enough. Anyone who disrespects the countries national anthem should be jailed and have the key thrown away.

All these guys protesting are the usual losers. Black Americans who walk around with a chip on their shoulders thinking the world owes them a living

Just seen this. Wow! Professional athletes worth millions of dollars are "losers" who "think the world owes them a living"

Apologies to Top Claret if I am a victim of Poe's Law here, but it seems your real issue with these protesters is the colour of their skin alone.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Fri Sep 29, 2017 10:24 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:You do know that it's possibly to add a post without replying to another specific post, right? See that at the bottom of your page? That's a text area where you can comment.

But if you want to talk about sad things i think it's pretty sad that I, and millions of other liberals, have been proven completely correct about this retard you voted for while people like you continue to live in denial about him.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sat Oct 07, 2017 10:38 am

FCBurnley wrote:National debt under Obama has increased from 60% of GDP to over 100% and yet there are those who claim his presidency to have been a good one. Interesting and fair point made by Lancasters sister in Maryland. It will be even worse under Hillary.

Jobs went down last month and debt went up.

I trust none of the perfectly reasonable mitigating circumstances will be used to defends Trump after they were ignored to blame the gay kenyan muslim president for the rise in debt.

7 straight years of job growth month-by-month, the longest in US history, until Trump came along.

Oh, and the debt went up again too. Maybe you can blame that on Puerto Rico, the needy bastards.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:19 pm

Can we all at least agree that this whopper is a lie (or evidence of his stupidity)? Even FCBurnley?
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/13/polit ... index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 10:52 am

More Trump lies. This time to project his own disinterest in offering his condolences to dead soldiers onto Obama.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watc ... 4770499780" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Cajun · Post by **Cajun** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:45 pm

To see Dirtbag Donald - a notorious draft dodger who got educational deferments from Vietnam service and then conveniently developed bone spurs in his heels to get a medical deferment = a condition which vanished as suddenly as he claimed it appeared and for which he has never been able to provide a doc's name or the supposed letter he wrote - talking about bravery, honor, or courage and trying to engineer nuclear conflicts just makes me sick.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:47 pm

Cajun wrote:To see Dirtbag Donald - a notorious draft dodger who got educational deferments from Vietnam service and then conveniently developed bone spurs in his heels to get a medical deferment = a condition which vanished as suddenly as he claimed it appeared and for which he has never been able to provide a doc's name or the supposed letter he wrote - talking about bravery, honor, or courage and trying to engineer nuclear conflicts just makes me sick.

And it shouldn't be forgotten how he treated the family of a soldier who died saving other soldiers, and how he treated John McCain.

And then has the nerve to feign outrage at black people protesting police brutality because he thinks it's disrespectful to the troops. How can any thinking person take him seriously knowing any of this?

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:31 am

Imploding Turtle wrote:And it shouldn't be forgotten how he treated the family of a soldier who died saving other soldiers, and how he treated John McCain.

And then has the nerve to feign outrage at black people protesting police brutality because he thinks it's disrespectful to the troops. How can any thinking person take him seriously knowing any of this?

Just out of curiosity, what is your views on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_eOMyhtms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I for one am genuinely excited.

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:18 pm

Last week was another bad week for the liar-in-chief.

He lied about Obama, again. When it got exposed he lied about lying, again. He does that a lot.
It came out that he lied to the father of a fallen soldier on a condolence call back in June or July when he said he'd personally write him a cheque. He didn't. He only did it this week when it got reported in the "fake news".
He gave his response to the Puerto Rico disaster a 10 out of 10 even as something like 80% of the over 3 million people still don't have power and surgeons have to perform surgeries lit by mobile phones.
He told the widow of another fallen soldier that "he knew what he signed up for", and then forgot his name a bunch of times. When the widow spoke about this he called her a liar.
His CoS stood behind the seal of the president and lied through his teeth about a congresswoman. Video emerged proving that he was lying but he refused to apologise.
His CoS claimed it was outrageous that a congresswoman (who knew the fallen soldier's family for years) was listening in to the condolence call, which was on speakerphone, even though he too was listening into the call.

And these are just the things I can recall off the top of my head.

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Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:20 pm

ClaretMoffitt wrote:Just out of curiosity, what is your views on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv_eOMyhtms" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I for one am genuinely excited.

I don't care. Unless any of them start killing people because they hold different political views, like this guy.
https://www.goskagit.com/news/man-plead ... fb511.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ClaretMoffitt · Post by **ClaretMoffitt** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:14 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:I don't care. Unless any of them start killing people because they hold different political views, like this guy.
https://www.goskagit.com/news/man-plead ... fb511.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Grats on 10k posts

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 3:56 pm

Imploding Turtle wrote:Here's what it looks like when Trump drains the swamp.
http://ijr.com/2017/09/986330-report-wh ... tom-price/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Poor FCBurnley. His face must be soooo red.

Sorry for the belated response. Face is actually fairly brown after a long hot summer. Been a bit busy last few days counting my profit on Apple which I bought into when Trump was elected. Up 81%. You still working hard IT ?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:03 pm

FCBurnley wrote:Sorry for the belated response. Face is actually fairly brown after a long hot summer. Been a bit busy last few days counting my profit on Apple which I bought into when Trump was elected. Up 81%. You still working hard IT ?

Up 81%?

Are they bo11ocks

The share price on the day of the election was $111.06. The day after it was $110.88

Today it is $156.96.

That's not 81%

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:02 pm

I am a Trump fan, therefore I am a liar, but I also make a lot of money haha. Obviously 50% profit is not enough to fill your beehole

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:34 pm

Is it 50% or 81% you’ve made?

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:42 pm

and what part did Trump play in that profit?

also... here's more of him draining that swamp you were looking forwards to being drained
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dollar300 ... rump-donor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;