New striker incoming

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:17 am

Bony is by far the best of the names that have been listed here. Hasn't had much of a run at City but his record at Swansea: 26 goals in 54 appearances.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:17 am

Papabendi wrote:So which 20 goal a season Premier League striker do you suggest - and is willing to come to Burnley?

Just had a look back through my posts,but I can't find one that suggested we needed a 20-goal a season striker.

In any event, there's little in Long's history to suggest he'd score even half that many.

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:22 am

We all know what a great club we are,please stop mentioning Bony,we have zero chance of signing him,it would never enter his head to sign for us.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:22 am

Bony or Ings for me. Bony is like Gray, but imo better, stronger and a more clinical finisher. He'd have to take a pay cut mind.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:23 am

Sorry Steve!!

claret3561 · Post by **claret3561** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:23 am

I'm another one who can't understand the long obsession. You could just change his name to Sam Vokes and nobody would know the difference. Definitely not the type of striker we need.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:25 am

Bony doesn't have the pace, but he can finish. Sometimes he plays as though he's just finished a 7 course meal before playing as well though.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:27 am

Conroy92 wrote:If bfccrazy thinks this striker is capable of getting 15 goals for us, its not going to be Shane Long. My guess is its somebody who actually has hit this amount in the prem before at some point, step forward Wlifred Bony.

Long doesn't fit the goalscoring category

brexit · Post by **brexit** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:28 am

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:Isaac success , Nigerian striker currently at Watford

Said this yesterday

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:31 am

When will bfc crazy spill the beans . Somebody go and kidnap them

Andreshotboots · Post by **Andreshotboots** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:31 am

Don't know what the obsession with pace is all about. We very rarely play a style that exploits any pace our forwards had, let's face it Gray didn't get lots of quality through balls to run onto apart from the Sunderland game. I'd rather have somebody who knows where the net is and I don't care if he has the pace of Stephen Hawkins as long as he scores

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:33 am

Andreshotboots wrote:Don't know what the obsession with pace is all about. We very rarely play a style that exploits any pace our forwards had, let's face it Gray didn't get lots of quality through balls to run onto apart from the Sunderland game. I'd rather have somebody who knows where the net is and I don't care if he has the pace of Stephen Hawkins as long as he scores

Without the threat of pace the opposition defence can sit on the half way line, knowing full well that a forward line of Barnes and Vokes couldn't make it 10 yards before being caught up by a Premier League level defender.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:34 am

Bony it is then, if we don't land our Viva man!

Steve1956 · Post by **Steve1956** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:37 am

IanMcL wrote:Bony it is then, if we don't land our Viva man!

No chance,if I say it often enough we might just ram the words back down my throat.
WE HAVE NO CHANCE OF SIGNING BONY!

burnmark · Post by **burnmark** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:38 am

claret3561 wrote:I'm another one who can't understand the long obsession. You could just change his name to Sam Vokes and nobody would know the difference. Definitely not the type of striker we need.

Shane Long is the same sort of player as Sam Vokes?

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:38 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Without the threat of pace the opposition defence can sit on the half way line, knowing full well that a forward line of Barnes and Vokes couldn't make it 10 yards before being caught up by a Premier League level defender.

When Gray had his four match ban we played Watford followed by Arsenal, Southampton and Everton. We won two and lost two and were very unlucky against Arsenal.

He wasn't missed that much in those matches.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:41 am

claret3561 wrote:I'm another one who can't understand the long obsession. You could just change his name to Sam Vokes and nobody would know the difference. Definitely not the type of striker we need.

Shane Long is about as different to Sam Vokes as a parrot is to a horse.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:41 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:Without the threat of pace the opposition defence can sit on the half way line, knowing full well that a forward line of Barnes and Vokes couldn't make it 10 yards before being caught up by a Premier League level defender.

Like Crystal Palace did when we beat them twice last season? Or Everton and Watford at home?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:43 am

bfccrazy wrote:I got excited whilst discussing the possibility of Agyei becoming this seasons saviour with a mate earlier

I can see him fitting in well and notching up 15/20 goals if it happens.

Some statement that

Down_Rover · Post by **Down_Rover** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:44 am

I think the OP is an agent of the Board.

They are simply assessing which player will keep their grumpy fans happy.

Then they will go with their £50m cheque and buy him

Fantastic recruitment policy, relying on those who know best

Simples!

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:45 am

Tall Paul wrote:Like Crystal Palace did when we beat them twice last season? Or Everton and Watford at home?

Forgot about Palace at home when Vokes and JBG seemed to cut through them with ease. Did we struggle with pace that game?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:46 am

Tall Paul wrote:Like Crystal Palace did when we beat them twice last season? Or Everton and Watford at home?

We didn't play Barnes and Vokes in the Everton, Watford and Palace home games. We played 4-5-1 in 3 of those wins, and the other, Erm Andre Gray scored in the other after we utilised his pace.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:46 am

jedi_master wrote:Shane Long is about as different to Sam Vokes as a parrot is to a horse.

Hmmm.

claret3561 · Post by **claret3561** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:47 am

burnmark wrote:Shane Long is the same sort of player as Sam Vokes?

Why what's the difference then, he's not that quick, he holds the ball up, sets others up and scores the odd good goal exactly what big Sam does.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:50 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:Bony or Ings for me. Bony is like Gray, but imo better, stronger and a more clinical finisher. He'd have to take a pay cut mind.

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Ings was a magnificent player for us but surely his knee(s) must be absolutely shot.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:50 am

claret3561 wrote:Why what's the difference then, he's not that quick, he holds the ball up, sets others up and scores the odd good goal exactly what big Sam does.

He is quicker than Andre Gray, about half Vokes height and definitely does not hold the ball up. He is essentially like an Irish version of Michael Owen (albeit significantly crapper obviously). He is really decent in the air for his height though, good spring.

I am a fan, I think if he started 38 games for us he would notch 8-10 which means he would be replacing Andre's contribution (which is what we need, as a minimum).

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:54 am

We can't sign Shane Long because we've already got Kevin and Chris Long.

Kevin's shirt says K.Long
Chris' shirt says C.Long
Shane's shirt would have to say S.Long

and that's far too close to having schlong on the shirt

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 11:59 am

UpTheBeehole wrote:We didn't play Barnes and Vokes in the Everton, Watford and Palace home games. We played 4-5-1 in 3 of those wins, and the other, Erm Andre Gray scored in the other after we utilised his pace.

But it proves 4-5-1 worked well in a number of games. I think the issue was more Defour being injured or struggling in our formation. If he'd have been a success straight away we might have seen far less of Andre as 4-5-1 would have been utilised more often than it was.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:01 pm

Defour wasn't strugging in a 4-5-1 though was he, we won those games.

Such a shame Dyche binned off what was a successful formation in order to go full hoofball 4-4-2 for the second half of the season, resulting in just 2 wins from 16.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:04 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Defour wasn't strugging in a 4-5-1 though was he, we won those games.

Such a shame Dyche binned off what was a successful formation in order to go full hoofball 4-4-2 for the second half of the season, resulting in just 2 wins from 16.

But it certainly is a good point that we might not miss Gray as much as we think, and we now have a better midfield than last season with the addition of Cork, and hopefully a fully fit Defour at the top of his game.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:08 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We didn't play Barnes and Vokes in the Everton, Watford and Palace home games. We played 4-5-1 in 3 of those wins, and the other, Erm Andre Gray scored in the other after we utilised his pace.

So what makes you think we'll have to play Barnes and Vokes now that Gray has gone? I'm well aware Gray scored the second against Palace, but we were already 1-0 up with Barnes and Vokes up front for 80 minutes.

UpTheBeehole wrote:Defour wasn't strugging in a 4-5-1 though was he, we won those games.

Such a shame Dyche binned off what was a successful formation in order to go full hoofball 4-4-2 for the second half of the season, resulting in just 2 wins from 16.

What if he went 4-4-2 because he wanted to accommodate Gray?

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:13 pm

Tall Paul wrote:So what makes you think we'll have to play Barnes and Vokes now that Gray has gone?

We play 4-4-2, and we have 3 strikers, one of whom many believe is actually Boyd's replacement and will play wide.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:17 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:We play 4-4-2, and we have 3 strikers, one of whom many believe is actually Boyd's replacement and will play wide.

When Gray was missing last season we didn't play 4-4-2.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:19 pm

All those memories of us launching it to Barnes and Vokes must have been a Dallas-style dream then

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:22 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:All those memories of us launching it to Barnes and Vokes must have been a Dallas-style dream then

You said it yourself:

UpTheBeehole wrote:We didn't play Barnes and Vokes in the Everton, Watford and Palace home games. We played 4-5-1 in 3 of those wins.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:26 pm

Well done, three games, early on in the season.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:29 pm

UpTheBeehole wrote:Well done, three games, early on in the season.

Which were the games that Gray wasn't available.

How many games did we start Barnes and Vokes together?

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:29 pm

FactualFrank wrote:Chris Wood is a good player and Indigo said a lot of his goals are tap ins, but that's because he knows where to be. You'd be surprised how often he's in the right place at the right time to get those tap ins. He just knows where to run. However, as much as I think he's a very good forward, he's not someone I'd replace Gray with. If we signed Wood, we'd still need a pacey direct forward like Gray, and I can't see us signing 2. Long would be a better option.

Yes, it's fair to say that you still have to be in the right position in the first place and take the chances that come your way. However, I also want us to sign a different style of player to Wood who is too similar to Vokes and Barnes, in my opinion.

ClaretinMyBlood · Post by **ClaretinMyBlood** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:29 pm

I've heard it's Danny Welbeck.
Down the pecking order at Arsenal. Feels he needs game time to have hopes of being in the England squad come next summer, Wants to move back north.

Just what I've heard.

lrac · Post by **lrac** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:31 pm

ClaretinMyBlood wrote:I've heard it's Danny Welbeck.
Down the pecking order at Arsenal. Feels he needs game time to have hopes of being in the England squad come next summer, Wants to move back north.

Just what I've heard.

Now that sounds juicy.

elwaclaret · Post by **elwaclaret** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 pm

If we sign Shane long the fans could go into a chorus of Goodbye... Shane Long.... auf Wiedersehen... adjure (Sound of music) as away fans trapse along home early.Must be worth a punt just for that

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:37 pm

It's Tevez he's taking a 600k a week pay cut

Firthy · Post by **Firthy** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:38 pm

ClaretinMyBlood wrote:I've heard it's Danny Welbeck.
Down the pecking order at Arsenal. Feels he needs game time to have hopes of being in the England squad come next summer, Wants to move back north.

Just what I've heard.

Danny Welbeck it is then. I'd be happy with that.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:38 pm

ClaretinMyBlood wrote:I've heard it's Danny Welbeck.
Down the pecking order at Arsenal. Feels he needs game time to have hopes of being in the England squad come next summer, Wants to move back north.

Just what I've heard.

That would be exciting. But how much does he want to play for England, and how much does he want the money? Arsenal signed him from Man U, so he's getting paid.

He's never scored 10 league goals in a season though!

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:45 pm

Good luck passing the medical 'Welbz'

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:45 pm

Welbeck will be on 100k a week, minimum.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:50 pm

jedi_master wrote:Welbeck will be on 100k a week, minimum.

I wouldn't grudge us paying that for a top loan player. 5.2 million is peanuts for a season of someone with that pace and quality.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:51 pm

Welbeck has got 14 goals for England in 34 appearances.

Foshiznik · Post by **Foshiznik** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:54 pm

There is more chance of Danny Dyer signing than 'Dat guy' Welbz.

willsclarets · Post by **willsclarets** » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:55 pm

Zero chance.