Nahki Wells

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:59 pm

KRBFC wrote:The money isn't available to sign players for £10M+, major cash flow problems or an unwillingness to really back Dyche from the board, you decide. We obviously wanted Waris, wouldn't pay the fee £12M max, moved on to the cheap option. We wanted Robertson, wouldn't pay the fee, went with the cheaper option in Taylor. Bardsley and Walters another two cheap options. Not to say they wont be good signings but its certainly a step backwards from last year when the board really backed Dyche.

We are set to make a profit in this transfer window which just isn't good enough, especially after Garlicks big talk in the summer.

BACK THE FKN MANAGER AND HE WILL GET RESULTS.

Think Robertson had his sights set on Liverpool and you missed Wood £15m possibly rising to £20m off your rant.You also conveniently missed Cork off as well.Think the board have backed Dyche and Think other players would have come in had they been available and still might.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:00 pm

Taylor may we'll turn out to be better than Robertson.

The Wells transfer may look better at 11pm tomorrow. No more incomings and it remains a shitty and a far from cheap punt.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Jimscho wrote:Think Robertson had his sights set on Liverpool and you missed Wood £15m possibly rising to £20m off your rant.

Liverpool weren't in for Robertson when we were, he went to Liverpool 3 weeks later. Whether Robertson had his sight sets on Liverpool or not is irrelevant because we couldn't sort the fee out to even talk to him.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:01 pm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... hki-wells/

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:02 pm

DCWat wrote:Taylor may we'll turn out to be better than Robertson.

The Wells transfer may look better at 11pm tomorrow. No more incomings and it remains a shitty and a far from cheap punt.

We will benefit from about 1 good season from him before the 12 month contract saga kicks in and we sell him on the cheap.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:02 pm

KRBFC wrote:Liverpool weren't in for Robertson when we were, he went to Liverpool 3 weeks later. Whether Robertson had his sight sets on Liverpool or not is irrelevant because we couldn't sort the fee out to even talk to him.

I reckon his agent was probably aware of their interest though don't you think?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:04 pm

Braindead wrote:I reckon his agent was probably aware of their interest though don't you think?

What relevance does that have?
We couldn't even stump up the fee to talk to him. We refused to pay the £8M valuation.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:06 pm

Did Wells take part in Huddersfield's preseason?

If not, you're looking at a hell of a spell before we saw him, particularly if he's currently several weeks away from training.

We'd be better seeing what our options were in January.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:06 pm

KRBFC wrote:What relevance does that have?
We couldn't even stump up the fee to talk to him. We refused to pay the £8M valuation.

Seems strange that we 'couldn't stump up the fee' when we have paid more than that for two of our signings this summer...?

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:07 pm

KRBFC wrote:What relevance does that have?
We couldn't even stump up the fee to talk to him. We refused to pay the £8M valuation.

Not sure I'm with you on this one, KRBFC. If we felt that £8m was too much and that Taylor offered better value, we made the right move.

The difference for me with the Wells move is that the value doesn't appear to be there. At least Taylor has undoubted potential.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:07 pm

Spijed wrote:You mean like Heaton, Mee, Vokes, Arfield, Ward etc. who must have cost less than £2 million combined?

That's almost half our first team.

It shows that with the proper judgement cheap players can turn out to be just as good as more expensive ones!

LMFAO......Those days are long gone, have you not seen what average players are going for now.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:07 pm

KRBFC wrote:Liverpool weren't in for Robertson when we were, he went to Liverpool 3 weeks later. Whether Robertson had his sight sets on Liverpool or not is irrelevant because we couldn't sort the fee out to even talk to him.

And you know all this for sure.You have inside knowledge of what was discussed and when Liverpool let his agent know do you.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:08 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:LMFAO......Those days are long gone, have you not seen what average players are going for now.

About the price of Wells?

halfmanhalfbiscuit · Post by **halfmanhalfbiscuit** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:08 pm

Fee agreed.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:08 pm

Braindead wrote:Seems strange that we 'couldn't stump up the fee' when we have paid more than that for two of our signings this summer...?

Wouldn't*

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani · Post by **Ooogeorgeorgeoghani** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:08 pm

FactualFrank wrote:The thing is, we don't NEED a striker. If we play 4-5-1, we have pace with Wood and we have strength... we have it covered. Wood + Vokes can score goals. Don't worry.

My thoughts exactly, just needed another body in for cover who would warm the bench and adds something different when required , certainly not worth spending big money on this type of player , so in my eyes it's a decent addition to the squad!

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:09 pm

Braindead wrote:Seems strange that we 'couldn't stump up the fee' when we have paid more than that for two of our signings this summer...?

It's nothing to do with having the money. I could easily 'stump up the fee' for a Twix at the Turf (sorry to brag), but I won't because I think they're overpriced.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:10 pm

Ooogeorgeorgeoghani wrote:My thoughts exactly, just needed another body in for cover who would warm the bench and adds something different when required , certainly not worth spending big money on this type of player , so in my eyes it's a decent addition to the squad!

If all we want is another body and it doesn't matter about the quality, then sign Doris the cleaner.

We're in the Premier League. Let's sign some Premier League players to play in our Premier League team.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:10 pm

Jimscho wrote:And you know all this for sure.You have inside knowledge of what was discussed and when Liverpool let his agent know do you.

What relevance does Liverpool have? The player may have wanted to move to Liverpool but the fact remains we wouldn't pay the fee Hull wanted for Dyches main LB target so we couldn't even talk to him.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Oh and by the way KRBFC you ignored my bit about our record signing Wood and Cork when I replied to your rant on penny pinching.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:12 pm

Duplicate post.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:12 pm

But why would we if we were told that Liverpool were in for him and that's where he wanted to go? Speculative but I wouldn't be surprised if that's not far off what happened.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:13 pm

If he turns out to be half as good as that other Huddersfield signing Arfield, he'll do me!

Papabendi · Post by **Papabendi** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:13 pm

ClaretTony wrote:I think they are all economical with the truth to be honest so I wouldn't be surprised to see a central defender come in although I think it will be more of a back up rather than a starter if it does happen. The difference between most managers and Coyle is that Coyle made it easy to work out when he was telling lies, it was when his mouth opened.

Same guy who once said that Coyle was "brilliant, just brilliant" in his relationship with the media. It all just turned into a poor show once he decided to go elsewhere.

kentonclaret · Post by **kentonclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:13 pm

"I don't think for one minute that our Chief Executive selects the players"

Neither do I. But our chief executive obviously has a very close affinity and special rapport with this player having been responsible for bringing him over from Bermuda when he was working with Bradford. Also, he obviously rates him highly as a footballer hence the Danny Ings reference and comparison.

Sean Dyche has admitted that he works closely with our chief executive and it would be astonishing if he had no input whatsoever on this signing given his previous association with Nakhi Wells.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:13 pm

DCWat wrote:Not sure I'm with you on this one, KRBFC. If we felt that £8m was too much and that Taylor offered better value, we made the right move.

The difference for me with the Wells move is that the value doesn't appear to be there. At least Taylor has undoubted potential.

I like Taylor, a good signing. The point is, Robertson appeared to be Dyche's main LB target, we wouldn't pay the fee for him. Why not agree the price and let him decide between us and Liverpool? Why don't we just back Dyche and sign his main targets? £8M for Robertson certainly wasn't excessive. Of course he still probably would've ended up at Liverpool but it doesn't excuse the fact we refused to back Dyche and meet the fee.

Steve-Harpers-perm · Post by **Steve-Harpers-perm** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:13 pm

Amazing how much insight folk have into what is said between players, agents and clubs.

Braindead · Post by **Braindead** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:14 pm

KRBFC wrote:What relevance does Liverpool have? The player may have wanted to move to Liverpool but the fact remains we wouldn't pay the fee Hull wanted for Dyches main LB target so we couldn't even talk to him.

Maybe Dyche thought why pay £10 million for Robertson when he could get Taylor for half that.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:16 pm

Jimscho wrote:Oh and by the way KRBFC you ignored my bit about our record signing Wood and Cork when I replied to your rant on penny pinching.

Obviously, they weren't penny pinching signings so I didnt include them in a rant about penny pinching signings..... I didnt think id have to explain that part.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:16 pm

MACCA wrote:We will benefit from about 1 good season from him before the 12 month contract saga kicks in and we sell him on the cheap.

Taylor is on a four year contract.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:18 pm

kentonclaret wrote:"I don't think for one minute that our Chief Executive selects the players"

Neither do I. But our chief executive obviously has a very close affinity and special rapport with this player having been responsible for bringing him over from Bermuda when he was working with Bradford. Also, he obviously rates him highly as a footballer hence the Danny Ings reference and comparison.

Sean Dyche has admitted that he works closely with our chief executive and it would be astonishing if he had no input whatsoever on this signing given his previous association with Nakhi Wells.

When Sean Dyche is signing a player he'll get as much input as he can in terms of his personality etc. and so I would think he's had long talks with Dave Baldwin about him in that respect, just as he will have done with the Irish lads when signing Jon Walters etc.

Godalmingclaret · Post by **Godalmingclaret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:18 pm

I saw Huddersfield versus Brighton last year where Wells scored one and his blocked shot led to another goal. He was quick, unconventional and caused the opposition problems. However he seemed to fall over a lot very easily.

Would certainly give different options.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:18 pm

KRBFC wrote:I like Taylor, a good signing. The point is, Robertson appeared to be Dyche's main LB target, we wouldn't pay the fee for him. Why not agree the price and let him decide between us and Liverpool? Why don't we just back Dyche and sign his main targets? £8M for Robertson certainly wasn't excessive. Of course he still probably would've ended up at Liverpool but it doesn't excuse the fact we refused to back Dyche and meet the fee.

If you think Taylor is a good signing, what's the complaint? Would you give up the chance of signing Taylor, so you could get in a bidding war with Liverpool to try and sign Robertson?

How do you know how highly Dyche rated Robertson and Taylor?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:18 pm

Tall Paul wrote:Taylor is on a four year contract.

I am aware of that.

DCWat · Post by **DCWat** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:20 pm

KRBFC wrote:I like Taylor, a good signing. The point is, Robertson appeared to be Dyche's main LB target, we wouldn't pay the fee for him. Why not agree the price and let him decide between us and Liverpool? Why don't we just back Dyche and sign his main targets? £8M for Robertson certainly wasn't excessive. Of course he still probably would've ended up at Liverpool but it doesn't excuse the fact we refused to back Dyche and meet the fee.

We don't know that the club wouldn't have paid that. It could just as easily have been Dyche that opted for Taylor. Whilst I'm not convinced by Wells, I don't think that the board aren't backing Dyche. Wells is a puzzler though.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:22 pm

dsr wrote:If you think Taylor is a good signing, what's the complaint? Would you give up the chance of signing Taylor, so you could get in a bidding war with Liverpool to try and sign Robertson?

How do you know how highly Dyche rated Robertson and Taylor?

While we were haggling over how to pay the fee for Robertson, Taylor was on the verge of signing for West Brom. The same thing with Waris.

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:22 pm

MACCA wrote:I am aware of that.

So how does that tally with your comment that we'll only get one good season out of him before we have to sell him in the last 12 months of his contract?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:24 pm

DCWat wrote:We don't know that the club wouldn't have paid that. It could just as easily have been Dyche that opted for Taylor. Whilst I'm not convinced by Wells, I don't think that the board aren't backing Dyche. Wells is a puzzler though.

Nixon said Robertson was our primary target we were haggling over how to pay the fee (not enough upfront, too much in add ons)

whentheballmoves · Post by **whentheballmoves** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:24 pm

I don't mind Wells per se, but 5m for a player struggling to get into a HTC side seems a bit steep, even in today's market.

I suppose we have to trust the manager. At the end of the day, he's a back up option, but seems an expensive one?!

Maybe he's being considered as an option out wide, too?

As long as we can get a centre half...

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:25 pm

Well he ain't going to play this season if Ward stays fit, possibly next season either.
1 good season, then back to the Keane/Gray dilemma

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:26 pm

KRBFC wrote:While we were haggling over how to pay the fee for Robertson, Taylor was on the verge of signing for West Brom.

So at a time when we were trying to get Robertson, we realised we might be about to lose Taylor and nipped in to sign him ahead of West Brom. Presumably the Board and Management decided that it was better to get Taylor than to get neither.

Wheras you say we should have offered more for Robertson, let Taylor go to West Brom, and try and fix a salary with Robertson knowing that if we didn't get him, we were stuck?

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:27 pm

KRBFC wrote:Obviously, they weren't penny pinching signings so I didnt include them in a rant about penny pinching signings..... I didnt think id have to explain that part.

You can't have a rant about the Board not backing Dyche but leave out deals where they have backed Dyche.Didnt think I would need to explain that either because they obviously will back him if he wants a player that badly.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:27 pm

MACCA wrote:Well he ain't going to play this season if Ward stays fit, possibly next season either.
1 good season, then back to the Keane/Gray dilemma

He's already played this season.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:27 pm

Tall Paul wrote:So how does that tally with your comment that we'll only get one good season out of him before we have to sell him in the last 12 months of his contract?

Well he ain't going to play this season if Ward stays fit, possibly next season either.
1 good season, then back to the Keane/Gray dilemma

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:28 pm

dsr wrote:So at a time when we were trying to get Robertson, we realised we might be about to lose Taylor and nipped in to sign him ahead of West Brom. Presumably the Board and Management decided that it was better to get Taylor than to get neither.

Wheras you say we should have offered more for Robertson, let Taylor go to West Brom, and try and fix a salary with Robertson knowing that if we didn't get him, we were stuck?

We didn't sign him ahead of West Brom, they pulled the plug which allowed us to get him.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:29 pm

Rileybobs wrote:He's already played this season.

Oh yes, forgot that makes a good season

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:29 pm

MACCA wrote:Well he ain't going to play this season if Ward stays fit, possibly next season either.
1 good season, then back to the Keane/Gray dilemma

OK then...

Not sure why we bothered signing another left back at all.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:31 pm

Jimscho wrote:You can't have a rant about the Board not backing Dyche but leave out deals where they have backed Dyche.Didnt think I would need to explain that either because they obviously will back him if he wants a player that badly.

So did Dyche not really want Waris?
What's our net spend this summer?
At a guess, we are set to record a profit on outgoings/incomings.

Rileybobs · Post by **Rileybobs** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:32 pm

MACCA wrote:Oh yes, forgot that makes a good season

That's just a collection of words which form a nonsensical sentence.

You said Taylor wouldn't play this season. I pointed out that he already had played this season.

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:32 pm

Cover and competition for places.

Don't think he will take Wards place for a year or 2 though IMO