Weghorst

[Rick_Muller]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

[bobinho]

Maybe it is.. maybe it isn’t. What’s it to you anyway?

[Elizabeth]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

Not with you around Rick , keep trying.

[Wokingclaret]

Another poster that is predicting other posters emotions on this subject 'disappointed'?

I didn't predict anything!

[equinox]

I didn't predict anything!

Did too.

[beeholeclaret]

Great to logon to read the latest on our errant Dutchman

[Rick_Muller]

Not with you around Rick , keep trying.

Have I upset you at all? That’s the second “abrasive” response…

[Elizabeth]

Have I upset you at all? That’s the second “abrasive” response…

No you haven't Rick but try and allow some discussion

[Rick_Muller]

No you haven't Rick but try and allow some discussion

Fair enough, but even you must admit that there’s a difference between discussing pros and cons of a player and arguing about context and stats especially when some get personal about it. It’s tiresome for those of us who don’t mind the differing opinions that then get spoilt by jibes.

[roperclaret]

Funny thing about this thread is, you could be wrong or you could be right. No one knows. Yet still people are so sure either way.

[Elizabeth]

Fair enough, but even you must admit that there’s a difference between discussing pros and cons of a player and arguing about context and stats especially when some get personal about it. It’s tiresome for those of us who don’t mind the differing opinions that then get spoilt by jibes.

I do Rick and unfortunately I've been drawn into personal vendettas only too recently so I'm not blameless.
I'm pretty sure if we were all in a pub together there would be a lot more tact and good humour..

[Wokingclaret]

Did too.

No I did not, what don't you understand by the word "may"

[jos]

Is this the right thread for an argument?

I’ve told you once!

[Jellybean]

Not read this all but was hoping to see an update, from reading the last few posts it seems like you need to quit bickering!

So where is wout currently, at what point does he report back here for duty? Difficult situation.

[daveisaclaret]

Probably nothing but someone has pointed out on Twitter that he hasn't been added to the squad list on the club's official website. The players we had on loan are removed and McNally, Egan-Riley and Costelloe are listed.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/tea ... squad-list

[Rileybobs]

Not read this all but was hoping to see an update, from reading the last few posts it seems like you need to quit bickering!

So where is wout currently, at what point does he report back here for duty? Difficult situation.

Apparently the club were going to announce the latest on Weghorst’s situation but they read the last couple of pages of this thread and then forgot. Hopefully if this thread goes quiet in the next couple of days the club will find the time to let us know that he’s currently a Burnley player until he isn’t a Burnley player any more.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Probably nothing but someone has pointed out on Twitter that he hasn't been added to the squad list on the club's official website. The players we had on loan are removed and McNally, Egan-Riley and Costelloe are listed.

https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/tea ... squad-list

I said about a month ago it’s Pace that won’t have Weghorst back. He burnt his bridges with him. Of course immediately got antagonized by the usual messageboard subjects but that’s the state of play just a case of his agent fixing him something even remotely near what we want

[criminalclaret]

What's the latest mumorings then? I haven't been following pre-season but was he at any of the Portugal training camps?

[Claretnick]

What's the latest mumorings then? I haven't been following pre-season but was he at any of the Portugal training camps?

He was in the Netherlands squad. Might be due back on Monday

[ŽižkovClaret]

What's the latest mumorings then? I haven't been following pre-season but was he at any of the Portugal training camps?

Latest i saw was a link with a loan move to Galatasaray but unsure how much substance there was.

You'd imagine we might be sponsoring youtube clips of his World Cup exploits on Saudi Youtube

[Claretmisterg]

I watched ‘that Peter Crouch Film’ on Amazon the other night. When they showed the problems Crouch had at Liverpool due to his stature etc. I could see the parallels with Wout. Particularly when Jamie Carragher said Crouch ‘couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo’. Crouch obviously went on to redeem himself and maybe Wout will do the same. But of the two you can’t help liking Crouchy and there’s something about Wout which suggests he’s not popular with his team mates.

[Commy]

I have found him.

https://www.krcgenk.be/nl/nieuws/5148/s ... burnley-fc

'The fan zone opens at 4:00 PM. Before the match, stadium DJ Johan and speaker Wout will play the numbers 100 – 31'

[Clive 1960]

Hope he gets is head down and works is socks off if no one wants him to show he wants to play for us . What is everyone's thoughts on him.

[LDNBFC87]

Get rid - evidently doesn't want to be here. Bad apple.

[ArmchairDetective]

Give him a chance. I get why he needed to play elsewhere last year. He's an international striker and was in a world cup year.

If he wants to be here, gets his head down and works hard he could save us a few bob that we could spend elsewhere.

If he's not up for it then get rid.

[Burnley1989]

In Kompany we trust, he will do what he thinks is right, I'd be surprised if he doesn't go but wouldn't be disappointed if he stayed.

[Claretnick]

The slate is wiped clean as far as I am concerned. The club is moving in a different direction since he was last here so the challenge is with him to show the manager and coaches he can fit into the new systems.
Will be interesting to see how this pans out over the coming weeks

[Quicknick]

I'm happy for him to stay if he's got the right attitude and plays well.

[bobinho]

Loads of rhetoric, no REAL substance. “Oooh he said some hurty words to Connor”

He starts again for a new Burnley today. He gets a fair crack of the whip, and VK should get our full support in whatever happens next. I hope he gets stuck in because there’s a good player in there. If he doesn’t I’m sure VK and CB would sort this out.

[agreenwood]

Loads of rhetoric, no REAL substance. “Oooh he said some hurty words to Connor”

He starts again for a new Burnley today. He gets a fair crack of the whip, and VK should get our full support in whatever happens next. I hope he gets stuck in because there’s a good player in there. If he doesn’t I’m sure VK and CB would sort this out.

I don’t think he’ll stay, but I fear the crowd reaction if he steps out in a Burnley shirt. You just know some cretins would boo him.

I’ve no problem with what he did. He pushed for a move to Turkey so he got a chance to play in a World Cup and then pushed for a move to Man U, because it’s Man U.

Players do it all the time. I don’t hold it against him that his efforts were a bit more public than most.

[TPClaret]

Loads of rhetoric, no REAL substance. “Oooh he said some hurty words to Connor”

He starts again for a new Burnley today. He gets a fair crack of the whip, and VK should get our full support in whatever happens next. I hope he gets stuck in because there’s a good player in there. If he doesn’t I’m sure VK and CB would sort this out.

If he turns up

[claret2018]

I don’t want him here as he’s clearly not good enough for the PL, and getting rid might free up funds for a striker

[Jakubclaret]

I don’t think he’ll stay, but I fear the crowd reaction if he steps out in a Burnley shirt. You just know some cretins would boo him.

I’ve no problem with what he did. He pushed for a move to Turkey so he got a chance to play in a World Cup and then pushed for a move to Man U, because it’s Man U.

Players do it all the time. I don’t hold it against him that his efforts were a bit more public than most.

Does cretins constitute people with a different opinion about him than yourself, it doesn't make people cretins it just means people view things differently & express themselves differently.

[Lancasterclaret]

Going round in circles here

- He's clearly more suited to our current style than the one we played when he was here
- His record is good (though not in the prem admittedly)
- He's our player and we are paying him
- It was a minor spat at most

Basically my opinion hasn't changed, if VK wants him, then that is good enough for me

[Cooclaret]

Whilst cretins is a strong word to use, I agree with the sentiment. Some fans just want to boo and moan rather than judge individuals, groups and the club on their merits at that point in time.

[Cooclaret]

Going round in circles here

- He's clearly more suited to our current style than the one we played when he was here
- His record is good (though not in the prem admittedly)
- He's our player and we are paying him
- It was a minor spat at most

Basically my opinion hasn't changed, if VK wants him, then that is good enough for me

This is

[FeedTheArf]

Let’s be honest, us football fans are a fickle bunch. If he comes back here and scores a few goals he’ll be just fine.

[dsr]

Does [deleted] constitute people with a different opinion about him than yourself, it doesn't make people [deleted] it just means people view things differently & express themselves differently.

While I wouldn't use an insult based on physical disability - not that I'm especially PC, but it's definitely off - I would say that people whose opinion about effectively a new signing is so anti that they would boo him as he comes onto the field, are in the wrong. If they boo a player, then they are booing the manager who picks him and the club he plays for. They aren't supporting the club.

[agreenwood]

Does cretins constitute people with a different opinion about him than yourself, it doesn't make people cretins it just means people view things differently & express themselves differently.

You can hold whatever opinion you like. You can plaster it all over social media and football forums. I draw the line at booing though. Just my opinion.

[RVclaret]

I don’t think he’ll stay, but I fear the crowd reaction if he steps out in a Burnley shirt. You just know some cretins would boo him.

I’ve no problem with what he did. He pushed for a move to Turkey so he got a chance to play in a World Cup and then pushed for a move to Man U, because it’s Man U.

Players do it all the time. I don’t hold it against him that his efforts were a bit more public than most.

At least he won’t tell the difference between the booing and the awful ‘wooooooooooooooooout’ chant he was given

[agreenwood]

I didn’t realise “cretin” had any connection to disability by the way, so I’ve learnt something today and won’t be using that word again.

Apologies for any offence caused.

[dsr]

I didn’t realise “cretin” had any connection to disability by the way, so I’ve learnt something today and won’t be using that word again.

Apologies for any offence caused.

Very rare now (in developed countries) because it's generally completely curable given early diagnosis.

[agreenwood]

Very rare now (in developed countries) because it's generally completely curable given early diagnosis.

Genuinely had no idea. Should have known, sorry.

[Jakubclaret]

While I wouldn't use an insult based on physical disability - not that I'm especially PC, but it's definitely off - I would say that people whose opinion about effectively a new signing is so anti that they would boo him as he comes onto the field, are in the wrong. If they boo a player, then they are booing the manager who picks him and the club he plays for. They aren't supporting the club.

I wouldn't interpret in that way, in some occasions managers are duty bound to select a player by contractual stipulations so it doesn't reflect chain wise, as long as people are civil & not law breaking it shouldn't matter however they choose to express themselves, nobody is asking for your permission or for you to agree with the actions or any sort of other approval.

[dsr]

I wouldn't interpret in that way, in some occasions managers are duty bound to select a player by contractual stipulations so it doesn't reflect chain wise, as long as people are civil & not law breaking it shouldn't matter however they choose to express themselves, nobody is asking for your permission or for you to agree with the actions or any sort of other approval.

Don't worry, I can well understand that the sort of person who boos the team out on the first day of the season, wouldn't be bothered what other people think of them.

[Jakubclaret]

Don't worry, I can well understand that the sort of person who boos the team out on the first day of the season, wouldn't be bothered what other people think of them.

By & large we are talking about a unique situation here with what's gone on previously, the reason to boo wouldn't exist with any other player apart from WW.

[Hipper]

Speaking to a knowledgeable long time television Man Utd fan (I was going to say TV but....) and I mentioned Weghorst. 'He's f....g useless' was his instant reply.

[RicardoMontalban]

Speaking to a knowledgeable long time television Man Utd fan (I was going to say TV but....) and I mentioned Weghorst. 'He's f....g useless' was his instant reply.

There’ve been better players than Weghorst play for United over the last few years that have looked useless.

[chekhov]

There’ve been better players than Weghorst play for United over the last few years that have looked useless.

A backhanded compliment to top all backhanded compliments!

[Hipper]

There’ve been better players than Weghorst play for United over the last few years that have looked useless.

Yes, maybe, but there is 'useless' and there is 'f....g useless', with the emphasis not on 'useless'!