Newcastle bid £15m for Trafford

[123EasyasBFC]

He's English, very young and already has Premier league experience. He ticks every box that the top clubs look for. He's also relatively cheap because he's had a bad season so it's fairly low risk for a big club.
It doesn't suddenly mean he's a top keeper, they are clearly taking a risk hoping he reaches the potential that City and England both think he has, I don't see it personally but we will wait and see.

Correct people seem to think because Newcastle and Chelsea want him that makes him a top goalkeeper. It’s been happening for years that any English player that top clubs think have potential they try and sign and pay more money than they would for a non English player

[Rileybobs]

Nobody has ever tried to deny that Trafford has what it takes to be a good keeper but Chelsea and Newcastle wouldn’t be signing Trafford after the season he’s had if he was from Austria, they are doing it because he’s English, I don’t know why that’s hard for people to grasp.

City did it years ago with Jack rodwell, he had a average season with Everton but they signed him because he was English

The argument being made that Chelsea have enough home grown players, it’s all their home grown players being linked with moves away, likes of chalobah, cowill and Gallagher

There will be a number of reasons why Chelsea and Newcastle want to spend a lot of money on Trafford, and whilst his nationality may be a factor, that isn’t the sole reason why they are signing him as you’re claiming. Otherwise they could sign an English free agent or simply promote one of their home grown youth players. What you’re claiming just doesn’t make sense.

[123EasyasBFC]

There will be a number of reasons why Chelsea and Newcastle want to spend a lot of money on Trafford, and whilst his nationality may be a factor, that isn’t the sole reason why they are signing him as you’re claiming. Otherwise they could sign an English free agent or simply promote one of their home grown youth players. What you’re claiming just doesn’t make sense.

It does make sense nobody said Trafford will never be good and clearly they think he has potential but they are only taking the risk because he’s english, but people saying ‘why aren’t Newcastle and Chelsea signing muric if he’s so much better tIan Trafford’ are totally blinkered. They aren’t trying to sign muric because he’s not English. The clubs linked with Trafford don’t suddenly make him the better keeper. Newcastle and Chelsea aren’t linked with neuer, that doesn’t make Trafford a better keeper than him.

Man united for example are after branthwaite, for the price being quoted they could probably go and get de ligt from Bayern who is a much better defender but they are going for branthwaite because a he’s English

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Man united for example are after branthwaite, for the price being quoted they could probably go and get de ligt from Bayern who is a much better defender but they are going for branthwaite because a he’s English

Nope, De Ligt wouldn’t take the step down unless he had no other options
He’s also not going to be cheap

[Rileybobs]

It does make sense nobody said Trafford will never be good and clearly they think he has potential but they are only taking the risk because he’s english, but people saying ‘why aren’t Newcastle and Chelsea signing muric if he’s so much better tIan Trafford’ are totally blinkered. They aren’t trying to sign muric because he’s not English. The clubs linked with Trafford don’t suddenly make him the better keeper. Newcastle and Chelsea aren’t linked with neuer, that doesn’t make Trafford a better keeper than him.

Man united for example are after branthwaite, for the price being quoted they could probably go and get de ligt from Bayern who is a much better defender but they are going for branthwaite because a he’s English

Trafford is obviously rated higher by people in the industry than Muric, it’s clear to see. But that isn’t really relevant to the conversation we are having which is that you are claiming Chelsea and Newcastle only want to buy Trafford because he’s English, which to be honest is just dumb.

[123EasyasBFC]

Nope, De Ligt wouldn’t take the step down unless he had no other options
He’s also not going to be cheap

I’m talking about price range, Everton wanting 60-70m for branthwaite same as Bayern want for de ligt

[GodIsADeeJay81]

I’m talking about price range, Everton wanting 60-70m for branthwaite same as Bayern want for de ligt

Everton to Utd is a step up
Bayern to Utd is down

He’s also probably better than braithwaite seeing as he’s already at a top club and entering his prime

[123EasyasBFC]

Trafford is obviously rated higher by people in the industry than Muric, it’s clear to see. But that isn’t really relevant to the conversation we are having which is that you are claiming Chelsea and Newcastle only want to buy Trafford because he’s English, which to be honest is just dumb.

Again he’s rated higher by some clubs because he’s English in my opinion.

Nobody has said that’s the only reason, I replied to Newcastle who this morning said why aren’t Newcastle and Chelsea after muric if he’s so much better than Trafford and the answer is because he’s English which is true.

It’s more dumb and delusional that you can’t for one second see that clubs are considering taking the risk on Trafford because he’s English.

[123EasyasBFC]

Everton to Utd is a step up
Bayern to Utd is down

He’s also probably better than braithwaite seeing as he’s already at a top club and entering his prime

You’re not understanding what I’m saying, de ligt is being valued at 70m by Bayern. Branthwaite being valued at 70m by Everton is largely because he’s English and they know they can charge English tax.

I’m not saying United are going for de ligt it’s just an example

[Rileybobs]

Again he’s rated higher by some clubs because he’s English in my opinion.

Nobody has said that’s the only reason, I replied to Newcastle who this morning said why aren’t Newcastle and Chelsea after muric if he’s so much better than Trafford and the answer is because he’s English which is true.

It’s more dumb and delusional that you can’t for one second see that clubs are considering taking the risk on Trafford because he’s English.

Why would they bother taking such an expensive risk? Why wouldn’t they just promote a homegrown player from their academy?

[123EasyasBFC]

Why would they bother taking such an expensive risk? Why wouldn’t they just promote a homegrown player from their academy?

15m is going rate for a squad player these days, I can’t believe you can’t for one minute think they would take a risk on an English keeper who they think has potential, they are clearly more likely to do that than a foreign keeper.

It’s what clubs do they take risks in the transfer market

[Rileybobs]

15m is going rate for a squad player these days, I can’t believe you can’t for one minute think they would take a risk on an English keeper who they think has potential, they are clearly more likely to do that than a foreign keeper.

It’s what clubs do they take risks in the transfer market

Of course they do, every signing is a risk. Chelsea and Newcastle quite obviously think that Trafford has the potential to become a top class goalkeeper. The national team set up also do, as was proven when he was named in the provisional squad for the European Championship. It’s absurd to think that these clubs will be paying probably in excess of £20m to sign a player because they are home grown, totally deluded. But we’re not going anywhere so it’s pointless to go round in circles.

[123EasyasBFC]

Of course they do, every signing is a risk. Chelsea and Newcastle quite obviously think that Trafford has the potential to become a top class goalkeeper. The national team set up also do, as was proven when he was named in the provisional squad for the European Championship. It’s absurd to think that these clubs will be paying probably in excess of £20m to sign a player because they are home grown, totally deluded. But we’re not going anywhere so it’s pointless to go round in circles.

Nobody has said that is the only reason, why aren’t you understanding that. The home grown part was a reply as to why they want Trafford over muric and the main reason for me is because he’s English. If muric was English and clubs had the chose between them both then muric would be signed first every single time

[Rileybobs]

Nobody has said that is the only reason, why aren’t you understanding that. The home grown part was a reply as to why they want Trafford over muric and the main reason for me is because he’s English. If muric was English and clubs had the chose between them both then muric would be signed first every single time

Nonsense.

[123EasyasBFC]

Nonsense.

Respect your opinion

[deanothedino]

It does make sense nobody said Trafford will never be good and clearly they think he has potential but they are only taking the risk because he’s english, but people saying ‘why aren’t Newcastle and Chelsea signing muric if he’s so much better tIan Trafford’ are totally blinkered. They aren’t trying to sign muric because he’s not English. The clubs linked with Trafford don’t suddenly make him the better keeper. Newcastle and Chelsea aren’t linked with neuer, that doesn’t make Trafford a better keeper than him.

Man united for example are after branthwaite, for the price being quoted they could probably go and get de ligt from Bayern who is a much better defender but they are going for branthwaite because a he’s English

Why?

Muric is homegrown, there’s no other benefit to Trafford being English.

[dsr]

It’s more dumb and delusional that you can’t for one second see that clubs are considering taking the risk on Trafford because he’s English.

Can we please get away from the "I am right and you are stupid" kind of argument? You are perfectly entitled to have a very high opinion of yourself, an opinion so high that you believe you are more infallible than the Pope. But this is a message board, and other opinions should be respected (or if you can't respect them, ignored).

[123EasyasBFC]

Can we please get away from the "I am right and you are stupid" kind of argument? You are perfectly entitled to have a very high opinion of yourself, an opinion so high that you believe you are more infallible than the Pope. But this is a message board, and other opinions should be respected (or if you can't respect them, ignored).

Have you quoted the posters who called me dumb and delusional first or not?

[fatboy47]

Is there a way mods could mark the threads buggered up by squabbling emptyheads?

Save a lot of time for most readers.

[dsr]

Have you quoted the posters who called me dumb and delusional first or not?

You want me to read all this in detail? No, I haven't. Feel free to open another thread where you can do that.

[deanothedino]

Is there a way mods could mark the threads buggered up by squabbling emptyheads?

Save a lot of time for most readers.

Easier to assume every thread is on this board.

[CoolClaret]

He's English, very young and already has Premier league experience. He ticks every box that the top clubs look for. He's also relatively cheap because he's had a bad season so it's fairly low risk for a big club.
It doesn't suddenly mean he's a top keeper, they are clearly taking a risk hoping he reaches the potential that City and England both think he has, I don't see it personally but we will wait and see.

Nailed it.

Players are like stocks these days for the money men, it's that simple.

[123EasyasBFC]

You want me to read all this in detail? No, I haven't. Feel free to open another thread where you can do that.

Don’t call out someone out if you aren’t going to call everyone out, your reply to me was the definition of not being respectful the one thing you claiming posters should be

[dsr]

Don’t call out someone out if you aren’t going to call everyone out, your reply to me was the definition of not being respectful the one thing you claiming posters should be

I didn't "call you out".

[Rileybobs]

Have you quoted the posters who called me dumb and delusional first or not?

I don't think I called you dumb or delusional. I said the idea that Chelsea and Newcastle want to sign Trafford because he's English is dumb and deluded.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I guess it is purely a coincidence that some who spent the season hammering him are the ones claiming he hasn't had abuse and also talking down his transfer.

Hopefully both Trafford & Muric are sold this summer and the normal folk are spared having to read stuff like this all next season.

[taio]

I guess it is purely a coincidence that some who spent the season hammering him are the ones claiming he hasn't had abuse and also talking down his transfer.

Hopefully both Trafford & Muric are sold this summer and the normal folk are spared having to read stuff like this all next season.

It's curious that you want both to leave just because what a handful of people have said on here

[claretonthecoast1882]

It's curious that you want both to leave just because what a handful of people have said on here

Trafford needs to move on because he is never going to be accepted here and hasn't deserved half the stuff said about him this last season. If Trafford is sold and we bring another keeper in the it is likely while Muric is here the fanboys won't take to a different keeper either.

A fresh start is better for all, the new keeper is given a chance and the nonsense on various sites (not just on here) will stop.

[taio]

Trafford needs to move on because he is never going to be accepted here and hasn't deserved half the stuff said about him this last season. If Trafford is sold and we bring another keeper in the it is likely while Muric is here the fanboys won't take to a different keeper either.

A fresh start is better for all, the new keeper is given a chance and the nonsense on various sites (not just on here) will stop.

It makes sense to sell Trafford given the likely fee and for Muric to be our number one next season.

[boatshed bill]

It makes sense to sell Trafford given the likely fee and for Muric to be our number one next season.

Until we (I hope) get promoted, then we will need better than Muric.

[taio]

Until we (I hope) get promoted, then we will need better than Muric.

I'm on about next season

[burnley007]

Is there a thread about Trafford anywhere?

[boatshed bill]

I'm on about next season

Where I'm sure he will do very well.