Mr Dyche sorry but you are out of your depth

[mybloodisclaret]

To be fair market leaders comes from the amount of money that the rams throw at it every season, by budget you should maul us. It's Mr Dyche who prevents that and thats the real reason of scorn.
I don't mind Derby by the way, decent ground good crowd. Just don't get why they hate us so much

[JimmyRobbo]

Deary me there are some plums living amongst us!

So, we've been in pretty much the highest position we've been in all my life....and this thread emerges.

Look, the man is a legend in these parts. What he has achieved is pretty much unrecognisable to what we were going through. I'll give him plenty of grace and time.

Also, we are still in the same league as Hull, Swansea and a choice of others who are going to be giving us a lot to keep believing in!

[Silkyskills1]

He rubs Derby fans up the wrong way with his comments. It is his way of getting a dig at Derby. Nothing to do with Burnley in my opinion but to do with his roots being in Snottingham.

Kenny Burns does the same, even though he played for Derby too. He is Forest through and through and is despised by Derby supporters.

Why have you appeared on here again? What do fans' opinions of our manager have to do with you?

[Bordeauxclaret]

Why have you appeared on here again? What do fans' opinions of our manager have to do with you?

Internet has been fixed in Derby, it strangely went down in August and September.

[Steve Bloomer]

Nice welcome back from a few of you as usual.

I will bid you all a good evening.

[joey13]

what? you mean why post an opinion on a burnley messageboard. How I've misjudged the entire concept.

Now you've got it !

[Silkyskills1]

Nice welcome back from a few of you as usual.

And what do you expect? Rejoice in your win over Wigan but don't get too carried away. You know what happens when you do!

[Clarinetclaret]

No need to abuse you, we can just pick apart your opinion instead.

The Hendrick fee is the going rate for UK based players, but clearly you haven't been paying attention.
League 1 Arfield? ...or just having an iffy patch?

Name your replacement for Dyche then, cant just state he has to go...

I must have missed us paying 10 million each for Tarkowski and Gudmundsson.

[Sidney1st]

I must have missed us paying 10 million each for Tarkowski and Gudmundsson.

Tarkowski was signed with 'old' money and he'd virtually refused to play until he'd moved, or did you think we'd signed him in the summer?
We didn't, we were still a championship club and only just starting our unbeaten run.

Gudmundsson had just been relegated to league one, did you expect to pay stupid money for him?

We paid the going rate for an established championship midfielder from a club who's bankrolled by Mr Candy Crush and pay good wages.
That's why they've still got Will Hughes plus other well paid players.

[john'sroseyspecs]

How many Burnley supporting offspring did Frazier have?

[Clarinetclaret]

Tarkowski was signed with 'old' money and he'd virtually refused to play until he'd moved, or did you think we'd signed him in the summer?
We didn't, we were still a championship club and only just starting our unbeaten run.

Gudmundsson had just been relegated to league one, did you expect to pay stupid money for him?

We paid the going rate for an established championship midfielder from a club who's bankrolled by Mr Candy Crush and pay good wages.
That's why they've still got Will Hughes plus other well paid players.

Whats old money? It was only 18 months ago. As for Gudmundsson, doesnt matter where his old club was going, you pay the going rate as you put it. If you think Hendricks going rate is 10 million then Gudmundssons is 15 million and Tarkowskis around the same. Going rate my arse, you pay what theyre worth in the current market, and Hendrick isnt worth 10 million. As for Gudmundsson, him and Hendrick were playing in the same league last year, just because his club got relegated doesnt mean his value halves.

[Clarinetclaret]

The Hendrick fee is the going rate for UK based players

Most ridiculous statement ever!!!

[KRBFC]

I think you'll find that there's a very insignificant but unfortunatley vocal minority on here who don't like Dyche. You'll probably find they're young, impatient and fickle.

Or maybe they just don't like awful negative boring hoofball and getting hammered every away game.

[Rileybobs]

Or maybe they just don't like awful negative boring hoofball and getting hammered every away game.

I've personally found our home games to be very entertaining in the main, not negative or hoofball at all. But then again maybe I can understand that we're coming up against better sides than us on a weekly basis and it's much more enjoyable to have realistic expectations.

As for being hammered every away game, we've been hammered in 3 of our 6 away games. Exaggerating does little for the credibility of your posts.

[Murger]

I'd say we've been hammered in 5 of our 6 away games. Chelsea, Leicester, Southampton, West Brom and today. Man Utd seems to be the exception to the rule.

[ElectroClaret]

We've been battered in the lot (scorewise) apart from United.

And we all know we were battered at United, but came away with a deserved point for our dogged defence.

No entertainment away from the turf whatsoever.

[Bin Ont Turf]

parkvilla,
Do one and go support another team.

Aston Villa?

[Rileybobs]

We've been battered in the lot (scorewise) apart from United.

And we all know we were battered at United, but came away with a deserved point for our dogged defence.

No entertainment away from the turf whatsoever.

I wouldn't describe a 2 goal defeat as a battering. We certainly weren't battered today.

[Sidney1st]

Whats old money? It was only 18 months ago. As for Gudmundsson, doesnt matter where his old club was going, you pay the going rate as you put it. If you think Hendricks going rate is 10 million then Gudmundssons is 15 million and Tarkowskis around the same. Going rate my arse, you pay what theyre worth in the current market, and Hendrick isnt worth 10 million. As for Gudmundsson, him and Hendrick were playing in the same league last year, just because his club got relegated doesnt mean his value halves.

Old money as in the old TV deal..which was worth less then the current deal.
Incase you hadn't noticed there's been a new deal, worth more money, meaning the cost of UK based players went up.
Bournemouth paid £6million for a lad who'd played first team football on loan at Swindon and a couple of games for his parent club ....£6million for an unproven player.

If you don't understand the effect an increased tv deal has had then this is going to be a long and difficult conversation.

[Sidney1st]

Most ridiculous statement ever!!!

It isn't, see my previous comment.

You not understanding the old money reference is ridiculous.

[John Johnson 1605]

We've been battered in the lot (scorewise) apart from United.

And we all know we were battered at United, but came away with a deserved point for our dogged defence.

No entertainment away from the turf whatsoever.

Did you go to the game today ?

We were beaten but certainly not battered !

[ralph]

Did you go to the game today ?

We were beaten but certainly not battered !

I did we played well for the first ten minutes .. struggled for the next 33.. dominated for the final two minutes of the half with the game already comfortable for Stoke and then dominated meaningless possession whilst posing a negligible threat for most of the 2nd 45 ... battered ? no but opened up at will through a barely visible midfield and behind two struggling full backs ..

[Woodleyclaret]

Best manager in my 50+yrs supporting Burnley. I have watched some awful Burnley teams managed by iincompetents. Sean will get us on track.Yesterday, against Stokes roughhouse tactics we allowed ourselves to be bullied.Boyd and Arfield are too lightweight to compete with sides who play like Stoke.I do question both on the pitch at the same time.
Poor marking let us down for both goals but our two best midfielders were out as was England's best goalkeeper so let's not be too pessimistic

[ralph]

Best manager in my 50+yrs supporting Burnley

Yes clearly better than Potts or Adamson

[ralph]

against Stokes roughhouse tactics we allowed ourselves to be bullied

Yes indeed you'd never see our strikers employing "roughhouse tactics" .. only just about everytime one of them moves

[Devils_Advocate]

Stoke didnt bully us yesterday. The beat us by playing better football and it was Burnley kicking them all over the park who were trying to be the bullies and failing miserably

[KRBFC]

I've personally found our home games to be very entertaining in the main, not negative or hoofball at all. But then again maybe I can understand that we're coming up against better sides than us on a weekly basis and it's much more enjoyable to have realistic expectations.

As for being hammered every away game, we've been hammered in 3 of our 6 away games. Exaggerating does little for the credibility of your posts.

Sorry but you are talking crap. We hoofed over and over again last season, so because we're against better sides isn't the reason for us constantly hoofing it. You don't think we play hoofball? we have played the most long balls in the PL and we average the least amount of possession and play the fewest short passes. That's stats, I'm not making it up. Argue with the stats. We've been hammered in only 3 away games, really? 1 goal away from home all season which was a penalty given out of pity. here's 4 away results incase you forgot...
Chelsea 3-0 Burnley
Leicester 3-0 Burnley
West Brom 4-0 Burnley
Soton 3-1 Burnley

Which of those games wasn't a hammering? I presume you're talking about the game where Soton had just the 39 attempts at our goal and we had 1 shot on target, doesn't sound like a hammering to me either.

[taio]

He's not talking crap though. If you haven't found our home games entertaining that's fair enough but I tend to agree with him. You may not wish to take account of what we're up against but it's an entirely valid point.

[Clarinetclaret]

It isn't, see my previous comment.

You not understanding the old money reference is ridiculous.

So new money means Hendrick is worth 10 million? Dont talk rubbish.

[Clarinetclaret]

Old money as in the old TV deal..which was worth less then the current deal.
Incase you hadn't noticed there's been a new deal, worth more money, meaning the cost of UK based players went up.
Bournemouth paid £6million for a lad who'd played first team football on loan at Swindon and a couple of games for his parent club ....£6million for an unproven player.

If you don't understand the effect an increased tv deal has had then this is going to be a long and difficult conversation.

Like i said, just because the market has gone up it doesnt automatically mean Hendrick is worth 10 million like you're trying to say. 10 million in any market should not mean that you get a below average player like Hendrick. So new money means Andre is worth double? I dont think so. Just because Bournemouth paid 6 million doesnt mean we cant get good value for money. Your theory is we paid the going rate for a player of Hendricks ability, he was a guy who wasnt a first team regular at Derby. 10 million is definately not the going rate for him, we paniked and paid over the odds.

[LoveCurryPies]

Ridiculous thread. What did you expect? We arrive in the PL league and find it a walk in the park?

We have got a terrific manager. Need a couple of quality signings at Christmas to add more fire power up front. Then our thoughts need to be focused on what we do in year 2 to build on this year.

OP, next time just go kick the cat!

[Rileybobs]

Sorry but you are talking crap. We hoofed over and over again last season, so because we're against better sides isn't the reason for us constantly hoofing it. You don't think we play hoofball? we have played the most long balls in the PL and we average the least amount of possession and play the fewest short passes. That's stats, I'm not making it up. Argue with the stats. We've been hammered in only 3 away games, really? 1 goal away from home all season which was a penalty given out of pity. here's 4 away results incase you forgot...
Chelsea 3-0 Burnley
Leicester 3-0 Burnley
West Brom 4-0 Burnley
Soton 3-1 Burnley

Which of those games wasn't a hammering? I presume you're talking about the game where Soton had just the 39 attempts at our goal and we had 1 shot on target, doesn't sound like a hammering to me either.

We don't constantly hoof it. When there's an opportunity to play attractive 'on the deck' football with little risk we do so. We've scored some nice goals this season by playing the ball on the ground. But what our manager understands, and you clearly don't, is that our players, to a man, are generally less talented footballers than their opposition. So, with that in mind, would you prefer us to attempt to out-football better footballers or play to our strengths and gain territory by playing a more direct game?

You mention Swansea in an earlier thread, they still adopt the same brand of football which was initially successful for them in the Premier League. They're now bottom of the table following a 5-0 hammering. Something tells me that if we tried to play sexy football and lost every week, like they do, then you'd be the first to criticise. You strike me as a petulant child.

[Sidney1st]

Like i said, just because the market has gone up it doesnt automatically mean Hendrick is worth 10 million like you're trying to say. 10 million in any market should not mean that you get a below average player like Hendrick. So new money means Andre is worth double? I dont think so. Just because Bournemouth paid 6 million doesnt mean we cant get good value for money. Your theory is we paid the going rate for a player of Hendricks ability, he was a guy who wasnt a first team regular at Derby. 10 million is definately not the going rate for him, we paniked and paid over the odds.

Look at what other championship strikers went for this last summer and tell me we wouldn't have had to pay more for Gray if we'd been buying his this time round.
Could've easily been £10-12million plus addons.

Yes we panicked a little with the signing of Hendrick, but we'd also been chasing him for ages so it wasn't a complete panic.
So you've now decided Hendrick is below average?
Are you willing to give him time to settle?

Yes the current market means players who were previously worth less are now valued higher due to the money kicking around.
Championship clubs want their share of it and the only way for them to do that is raise the price of their players, it isn't rocket science to most people, you've just got to shift your thinking along.

12-18 months ago he would've cost us a damn sight less, just like Tarkowski cost us a lot less when we signed him, whereas if we'd gone for him in the summer...

As for Keane we all know he wouldn't have been worth the fee we turned down if it had been made 12-18 months ago, but inflation means that's the current price for him, bit like Stones going for £50million.

Wages also start going up due to this new tv money, along with agents fees, this is something else people are struggling with, for some reason.

This is why we need to start buying more players from abroad, because there are bargains to be had who wont be on bigger wages already or costing inflated fees.

West Ham signed a couple the other year and were paying them less then £15k a week until they'd proven they could have an impact and then they increased their wages to a decent level.
We just need to put some money into our foreign scouting networks (or get belgianclaret onto the books).
We also need a better transfer negotiation team too, who've got the ability and networking skills to get these deals done well before then end of the transfer window.

[Stayingup]

And you'd replace Dyche with whom exactly?

That is a real good question. I thnk we do have too many Championship standard players though. But not SDs fault. Hendrick was the only midfielder of that type available. January will be just as tough.

Then there is luck. Bad luck in our case. Aguero benned now - pity it wasn't last week. And we have been on the wrong side of some poor refereeing decisions. Like yesterday.

[evensteadiereddie]

Spot on, Stayingup - a real understanding of the game and our current state.
Like most posters on here, it is clear that you would be delighted to see us stay up. One or two, however, must be praying we fail. Scumbags.

[KRBFC]

We don't constantly hoof it. When there's an opportunity to play attractive 'on the deck' football with little risk we do so. We've scored some nice goals this season by playing the ball on the ground. But what our manager understands, and you clearly don't, is that our players, to a man, are generally less talented footballers than their opposition. So, with that in mind, would you prefer us to attempt to out-football better footballers or play to our strengths and gain territory by playing a more direct game?

You mention Swansea in an earlier thread, they still adopt the same brand of football which was initially successful for them in the Premier League. They're now bottom of the table following a 5-0 hammering. Something tells me that if we tried to play sexy football and lost every week, like they do, then you'd be the first to criticise. You strike me as a petulant child.

Swansea play absolutely nothing like they used to, you only have to watch football to know that. Ian Holloway's Blackpool didn't lump it neither did Martinez' Wigan or Rogers' Swansea, this thing in your head about ''we don't have better players than the opposition so we must lump it'' is complete b*llocks. Play to our strengths? have you even watched us play away from home this season? this ''playing to our strength and hoofing it'' is really working. Bournemouth against Liverpool today is a perfect example of getting at teams and blows your theory of ''you can't pass the ball against better players'' laughable. Under Coyle we didn't hoof it, did we have the best players in the PL? did that matter? did we cause ''better players'' problems?
There is a massive difference between ''out footballing'' better players and getting at teams with fluid attacking movement and a high tempo. I don't want us to play like Barcelona and dominate possession for the sake of it nor are we capable of doing so, just get at teams and create problems because this dross away from home is getting us hammered every week without looking even competitive. We don't even look like scoring a goal away from home, so we clearly aren't playing to our strength like you suggest unless we're really that s**t, then Dyche must take the criticism for signing the players.

[KRBFC]

We don't constantly hoof it. When there's an opportunity to play attractive 'on the deck' football with little risk we do so. We've scored some nice goals this season by playing the ball on the ground. But what our manager understands, and you clearly don't, is that our players, to a man, are generally less talented footballers than their opposition. So, with that in mind, would you prefer us to attempt to out-football better footballers or play to our strengths and gain territory by playing a more direct game?

You mention Swansea in an earlier thread, they still adopt the same brand of football which was initially successful for them in the Premier League. They're now bottom of the table following a 5-0 hammering. Something tells me that if we tried to play sexy football and lost every week, like they do, then you'd be the first to criticise. You strike me as a petulant child.

Swansea play absolutely nothing like they used to, you only have to watch football to know that. Ian Holloway's Blackpool didn't lump it neither did Martinez' Wigan or Rogers' Swansea, this thing in your head about ''we don't have better players than the opposition so we must lump it'' is complete b*llocks. Play to our strengths? have you even watched us play away from home this season? this ''playing to our strength and hoofing it'' is really working. Bournemouth against Liverpool today is a perfect example of getting at teams and blows your theory of ''you can't pass the ball against better players'' laughable. Under Coyle we didn't hoof it, did we have the best players in the PL? did that matter? did we cause ''better players'' problems?
There is a massive difference between ''out footballing'' better players and getting at teams with fluid attacking movement and a high tempo. I don't want us to play like Barcelona and dominate possession for the sake of it nor are we capable of doing so, just get at teams and create problems because this dross away from home is getting us hammered every week without looking even competitive. We don't even look like scoring a goal away from home, so we clearly aren't playing to our strength like you suggest unless we're really that s**t, then Dyche must take the blame for putting the squad together,

[Rileybobs]

Swansea play absolutely nothing like they used to, you only have to watch football to know that. Ian Holloway's Blackpool didn't lump it neither did Martinez' Wigan or Rogers' Swansea, this thing in your head about ''we don't have better players than the opposition so we must lump it'' is complete b*llocks. Play to our strengths? have you even watched us play away from home this season? this ''playing to our strength and hoofing it'' is really working. Bournemouth against Liverpool today is a perfect example of getting at teams and blows your theory of ''you can't pass the ball against better players'' laughable. Under Coyle we didn't hoof it, did we have the best players in the PL? did that matter? did we cause ''better players'' problems?
There is a massive difference between ''out footballing'' better players and getting at teams with fluid attacking movement and a high tempo. I don't want us to play like Barcelona and dominate possession for the sake of it nor are we capable of doing so, just get at teams and create problems because this dross away from home is getting us hammered every week without looking even competitive. We don't even look like scoring a goal away from home, so we clearly aren't playing to our strength like you suggest unless we're really that s**t, then Dyche must take the criticism for signing the players.

We didn't 'hoof' the ball at West Brom. We tried a patient build up game and had a lot of possession, where did that get us?

Edit - Bournemouth have more technically superior players to ours, pointless comparison. And we beat Liverpool by more goals than Bournemouth did. At this stage I'd put results ahead of style of play, if we manage to stay up I'd hope we'd look to introduce more technically gifted players to the squad for a second season in this division. You obviously care more about our style of play, which is perfectly fine, but why do you have to constantly bang on about it? We're not going to start playing how you want us to with the squad that we've currently got. You may as well get used to it rather than whinge about it on a daily basis.

[MACCA]

No way should Sean Dyche go. He has been immense for us.

However If you genuinely believe we don't play percentage hoof ball then there really is no point discussing things with people.

It's just as bad if not worse than the old Stoke style football although the results just aren't as good yet.

Can't remember the last time we played and got it to the dead ball line and cross with any quality, nor can I remember the last time a few decent passes led to a great through ball for Gray to get in behind on.

It's back to front either with one pass or several sideways passes before the lack of quality shows and we lose possession.

[Rileybobs]

No way should Sean Dyche go. He has been immense for us.

However If you genuinely believe we don't play percentage hoof ball then there really is no point discussing things with people.

It's just as bad if not worse than the old Stoke style football although the results just aren't as good yet.

Can't remember the last time we played and got it to the dead ball line and cross with any quality, nor can I remember the last time a few decent passes led to a great through ball for Gray to get in behind on.

It's back to front either with one pass or several sideways passes before the lack of quality shows and we lose possession.

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Short memories from some people. Watch the link above from a few weeks ago and tell me which of the 3 goals we scored came from hoof ball. Also, one goal comes from a cross from the dead ball line and another goal is from a few decent passes leading to a great through ball.

[KRBFC]

We didn't 'hoof' the ball at West Brom. We tried a patient build up game and had a lot of possession, where did that get us?

Edit - Bournemouth have more technically superior players to ours, pointless comparison. And we beat Liverpool by more goals than Bournemouth did. At this stage I'd put results ahead of style of play, if we manage to stay up I'd hope we'd look to introduce more technically gifted players to the squad for a second season in this division. You obviously care more about our style of play, which is perfectly fine, but why do you have to constantly bang on about it? We're not going to start playing how you want us to with the squad that we've currently got. You may as well get used to it rather than whinge about it on a daily basis.

I'm used to it and bored of it, it's sh*te. I will voice my opinion regardless of whether you agree or not, I don't care. You are obviously confusing tiki taka Barca style play with standard pass the ball and move into space with a decent tempo. I'm not wanting us to play tiki taka, look at sides up and down the country, Leeds against Liverpool in midweek a good example, they didn't just hoof it they passed it, they didn't dominate possession but when they did have possession they passed it forward not just hammered it anywhere. I can accept us having 35% of the ball every game but when we get the ball, we seem scared to even try and pass it around and ''let the ball do the work'' it's just ultimately hoofing it absolutely anywhere. Deny it all you want, the stats back me up. You say ''well other teams have better players'' so I ask, what about last season? it was the same style of play... slow passing around the defence and a hoof forward. How do you need better players than the opposition to pass the ball when you have it, it's called ''intention'' when we have the ball, it's our choice how to use it to influence the game.

[Rileybobs]

I'm used to it and bored of it, it's sh*te. I will voice my opinion regardless of whether you agree or not, I don't care. You are obviously confusing tiki taka Barca style play with standard pass the ball and move into space with a decent tempo. I'm not wanting us to play tiki taka, look at sides up and down the country, Leeds against Liverpool in midweek a good example, they didn't just hoof it they passed it, they didn't dominate possession but when they did have possession they passed it forward not just hammered it anywhere. I can accept us having 35% of the ball every game but when we get the ball, we seem scared to even try and pass it around and ''let the ball do the work'' it's just ultimately hoofing it absolutely anywhere. Deny it all you want, the stats back me up. You say ''well other teams have better players'' so I ask, what about last season? it was the same style of play... slow passing around the defence and a hoof forward. How do you need better players than the opposition to pass the ball when you have it, it's called ''intention'' when we have the ball, it's our choice how to use it to influence the game.

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I've posted this in another thread. Is this more what you're looking for?

[BurnleySYS]

All we do is hoof it and hope Vokes can win a header or bring it down. Mee & Keane just get the ball smack it 50 yards thats why they will never be more than average Premierleague center backs because they panic under pressure. Dont get me wrong they can both defend but are they footballers no.

Barnes,Lowton,Ward,Boyd,Marney,Gudmundson are all championship players.

Arfield is league 1 standard.

Derby have had our pants down with Hendrick and we have bought an injury prone Belgium international that only plays 60 mins a game. You have to question Dyche's transfers because they are poor !

We are boring and painful to watch its not rocket science stop hoofing the ball ! Its proven you can get points by passing even with an average at best set of players as KRBFC said.

If we keep getting hammered away from home then im sorry but Dyche has to go because he isnt taking the club forward we wont stay up with home form.

[Rileybobs]

All we do is hoof it and hope Vokes can win a header or bring it down. Mee & Keane just get the ball smack it 50 yards thats why they will never be more than average Premierleague center backs because they panic under pressure. Dont get me wrong they can both defend but are they footballers no.

Barnes,Lowton,Ward,Boyd,Marney,Gudmundson are all championship players.

Arfield is league 1 standard.

Derby have had our pants down with Hendrick and we have bought an injury prone Belgium international that only plays 60 mins a game. You have to question Dyche's transfers because they are poor !

We are boring and painful to watch its not rocket science stop hoofing the ball ! Its proven you can get points by passing even with an average at best set of players as KRBFC said.

If we keep getting hammered away from home then im sorry but Dyche has to go because he isnt taking the club forward we wont stay up with home form.

Watch the link above and tell me that all we do is hoof it. There's so much knee-jerk guff on here following yesterday's result.

[BurnleySYS]

HEATON
NEW KEANE MEE NEW
NEW NEW DEFOUR NEW
GRAY VOKES (Along with another new striker)

Also keep Tarkowski.

Get rid of all the rest its harsh but true that is what is needed for us to be able to compete at this level.

[Rileybobs]

HEATON
NEW KEANE MEE NEW
NEW NEW DEFOUR NEW
GRAY VOKES (Along with another new striker)

Also keep Tarkowski.

Get rid of all the rest its harsh but true that is what is needed for us to be able to compete at this level.

Easy signing 5 players who would walk into our team and selling most of our squad isn't it.

[fidelcastro]

HEATON
NEW KEANE MEE NEW
NEW NEW DEFOUR NEW
GRAY VOKES (Along with another new striker)

Also keep Tarkowski.

Get rid of all the rest its harsh but true that is what is needed for us to be able to compete at this level.

That has got to be a wind up from Burnley Silly Young Sausage!

[Sidney1st]

HEATON
NEW KEANE MEE NEW
NEW NEW DEFOUR NEW
GRAY VOKES (Along with another new striker)

Also keep Tarkowski.

Get rid of all the rest its harsh but true that is what is needed for us to be able to compete at this level.

So you still want to keep Defour?
Despite your claim he only plays 60mins?

[Sidney1st]

Easy signing 5 players who would walk into our team and selling most of our squad isn't it.

You clearly don't play enough Fifa or Footy manager if you think otherwise.

[Paul Waine]

HEATON
NEW KEANE MEE NEW
NEW NEW DEFOUR NEW
GRAY VOKES (Along with another new striker)

Also keep Tarkowski.

Get rid of all the rest its harsh but true that is what is needed for us to be able to compete at this level.

Hi BurnleySYS,

OK, your "new" make the point. But, how do Gray and Vokes keep their places? I'd love it if both were Prem standard, but Andre Gray has a lot to prove at this higher level and Sam needs a lot of good players around him to play to his strengths.

If our budget stops us signing your 5 new - let's say we can only get 3 starters in - which of the existing squad would you keep in starting line up?

No need to answer. That's the question Sean Dyche has to deal with - when he's got a fully fit squad.