New Bob Lord stand

[Pstotto]

It would be interesting to know how many tickets they might have sold for the sold out games. usually there are statistics e.g. 200,000 couldn't get tickets for Glastonbury, so they must know what interest has been generated.

[50 shades of Grey]

I mentioned this before on a previous 'ground redevelopment' thread - I'm certain not much can be done with the BL, due to its close proximity to Brunshaw Rd and the properties directly opposite on Anne Close.

[cutsy123]

Does anyone know how well the corporate areas do at Turf Moor?

Where we are in the james hargreaves its full eveey week. Every game pretty much sells all the tables

Id scrap the bob lord plan and build a corner to both the bigger stands

[Claretforever]

I mentioned this before on a previous 'ground redevelopment' thread - I'm certain not much can be done with the BL, due to its close proximity to Brunshaw Rd and the properties directly opposite on Anne Close.

Looking at the image you can clearly see that the stand itself could be extended backwards at least 10 rows, possibly more. The bottom of the back cladding (in effect the top row of seats) is slightly above the offices, so with a design of a sort of arch holding the roof from each side and the top (a bit like ewood), then it could be achieved.

The issues come with the size of the concourse and exits, and what is considered safe.

The Bob Lord is about 250 seats long, so 10 rows gives you approximately 2,500 extra seats, give or take for slight inaccuracies and exits etc.

[Turfytop]

That picture sums it all up for me, we are part of a global brand in the premier league, and that's what people see around the world an outdated rusting old stand with a few cheap posters scattered about , it looks a mess from outside, definitely needs something doing to both stands.

[Corky]

For me we should now, at least, be looking at the options available to us as a club should be stay up. And I would hope that the Chairman and his board have some plans in place should we do so.

It is all a case of how ambitious we need to be and I am not using that word as a means to beat them over the head. They should, as has already been mentioned, be looking at corporate hospitality to see if there is scope for trying to increase what they do in that area. Would it cost in. Would this necessarily entail increasing capacity with the introduction of more private boxes.

There are however some comparatively small things that in my view should be looked at which could be done in a stepped process.

They could look at matching up the lefthand side of the building underneath the stand so that you have something duplicating the club shop and have some symmetry with the way the building then looks. That extra space could be used for changing rooms with an entrance tunnel between the BL and the CFS. This then gives them the opportunity at some stage to redevelop the CFS either by completely demolishing it and starting afresh or by looking at the feasibility of ripping out the seat and putting in those safe standing jobbies.

And as has also been said and seems clear from the photo above there does seem scope for looking at extending the BL stand over the building to incorporate boxes and a new cantilever roof.

Really there are a myriad of options open to them but it depends on how bold they want to be.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

[COBBLE]

[quote="bfcwest"]There are too many 'rubbish' seats that 'walk-ons' just don't want. Low down behind the goals, single seats behind pillars etc etc. If we had another 3 to 4k seats in higher / central locations then I am confident we could hit 26k regularly for bigger home games.

Agree.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[Spijed]

And what happens when we eventually get relegated if we have an extra 3-4k of seats?

We'll have a ground, like Rovers, which will look very empty most of the time.

[Wokingclaret]

But ready to bounce back

[yorkyclaret]

Not for me, we only fill up now when we get Manc or Scouse fans sneaking in the home stands. More seats would just mean more of them.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[aggi]

And what happens when we eventually get relegated if we have an extra 3-4k of seats?

We'll have a ground, like Rovers, which will look very empty most of the time.

We have 3-4k more empty seats in some games.

But on the flip side next season people will actually be able to buy seats together without sitting in row A.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Don’t really get this ‘we need to increase capacity’ arguement. As far as I’m aware there is no waiting list for season tickets etc and if you really want a ticket for home games you can get one unless you decide to leave it to the last minute for the bigger games.

[bfcwest]

And what happens when we eventually get relegated if we have an extra 3-4k of seats?

We'll have a ground, like Rovers, which will look very empty most of the time.

I am so sick of hearing this “big empty ground when we get relegated” response when anyone suggests we increase capacity. It is just so negative, regressive and also doesn’t recognise reality. If we can increase our fan base by having a bigger capacity while successful (key is having an increased number of more desirable seats rather than rubbish seats), and so get our average up to say 25k, then should we go down the result would be that a percentage of these ‘newer’ fans would stick with us. So as a result we would have a higher relative average after relegation than had we NOT increased capacity. Norwich is a good example of this perhaps?

Football is so much more popular than ever, and people are prepared to travel further than during our glory days to watch the right ‘product’. Cars and roads are faster than the 60’s ffs. Just look how people drive hundred of miles for concerts and theatre, far more so than decades ago. People are far more mobile now. So if we had a bigger ground with quality, accessible seating and good service and atmosphere to support it, then we would attract and grow more fans. Keep Turf Moor as it is and we will be stuck with he same fan base as now, and when we go down we really are back to 12 and 13k crowds.

We need a bigger and better ground with improved atmosphere and facilities, just like we needed a bigger and better training facility. To deny this suggests you don’t want Burnley to develop and take advantage of the amazing work the board and Mr Dyche have done. Up the clarets. “Sleeping giant”!

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[claretandy]

And what happens when we eventually get relegated if we have an extra 3-4k of seats?

We'll have a ground, like Rovers, which will look very empty most of the time.

Ewood holds 31k, (way too much) 25k would be enough for us.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

I am so sick of hearing this “big empty ground when we get relegated” response when anyone suggests we increase capacity. It is just so negative, regressive and also doesn’t recognise reality. If we can increase our fan base by having a bigger capacity while successful (key is having an increased number of more desirable seats rather than rubbish seats), and so get our average up to say 25k, then should we go down the result would be that a percentage of these ‘newer’ fans would stick with us. So as a result we would have a higher relative average after relegation than had we NOT increased capacity. Norwich is a good example of this perhaps?

Football is so much more popular than ever, and people are prepared to travel further than during our glory days to watch the right ‘product’. Cars and roads are faster than the 60’s ffs. Just look how people drive hundred of miles for concerts and theatre, far more so than decades ago. People are far more mobile now. So if we had a bigger ground with quality, accessible seating and good service and atmosphere to support it, then we would attract and grow more fans. Keep Turf Moor as it is and we will be stuck with he same fan base as now, and when we go down we really are back to 12 and 13k crowds.

We need a bigger and better ground with improved atmosphere and facilities, just like we needed a bigger and better training facility. To deny this suggests you don’t want Burnley to develop and take advantage of the amazing work the board and Mr Dyche have done. Up the clarets. “Sleeping giant”!

Where are all these new fans though? Be great if we could guarantee 25k every home game but probably not going to happen.

[bfcwest]

Where are all these new fans though? Be great if we could guarantee 25k every home game but probably not going to happen.

If you applied the same logic to cinemas, then they would all have closed. Crappy old single and double screen cinemas were half empty, so with your logic they should have stayed as they were? But the reality was that new, modern, attractive Multi screen cinemas opened up with a more desirable ‘product’, and now far more people are going to these cinemas than the amount that went to the much smaller capacity old crappy cinema. I know it’s sad, but that’s just the way it works. If you want to get more customers then you have to try and work out how you can improve your offer to attract them, and have the increased capacity to cater for the increased demand.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

But where is the demand for extra seats at the turf? You can’t be saying there are 5 thousand ‘fans’ out there who won’t attend unless we build a new stand?

[AlargeClaret]

It’s an embarrassment to be fair and should be demolished

[Quickenthetempo]

But where is the demand for extra seats at the turf? You can’t be saying there are 5 thousand ‘fans’ out there who won’t attend unless we build a new stand?

There is massive demand for corporate and premium viewing seats.
That's why the Bob Lord has a lot more potential to update than the CF stand.

[piston broke]

Where are all these new fans though? Be great if we could guarantee 25k every home game but probably not going to happen.

But a couple more years in the PL and the fanbase will grow. It appears that the board acknowledge this but are, quite correctly IMO, biding there time. All the time we stay up the £100m+ keeps coming. The team is where the bulk of the money should go, this time around. It might be the same next time but the capacity will go up eventually. 30k should not be a pipedream but an achievable ambition.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[yorkyclaret]

Time the Bob Lord was made a Grade 1 listed building.

[Bin Ont Turf]

Time the Bob Lord was made a Grade 1 listed building.

But we are a global brand and it's embarrassing!

F**k off will yer.

It needs a bit of work doing but don't be embarrassed on my behalf, we're Burnley FC.

[South West Claret.]

What is the Centre Spot area on the ground floor used for now?

TTT.

[South West Claret.]

Come on you lot someone must know.

[Claretforever]

Come on you lot someone must know.

It’s a corporate area on match days. Usually packed out too. We are short of corporate seats right now, and a couple of thousand short of normal seats with decent views.

The argument that we don’t sell out every game is balanced by the 6-7 games which do sell out, and where if capacity allowed would have up to 35,000 on. No, I don’t think that’s reality for us to build too, but we should have ambition to have a good looking ground, and have enough seats for demand and to entice new fans. Right now we have neither.

[South West Claret.]

Thanks for that CF thought it might be used for something like that now.