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by Colburn_Claret » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:58 am
ClaretTony wrote:Hard for Eddie Davies? He was the one who sat there and let this happen.
He was the one paying the price, but I'm sure it was Garside and co who led him up the garden path.
Gibson did the same at Boro when they first got into the prem. He had the sense to rein in and it's taken him years to get back. Davis was badly advised to keep chucking money at it, or do you believe Garside was telling him not to.
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Blackrod
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by Blackrod » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:01 am
Shambolic and totally unprofessional. Wasn't impressed when Holdsworth was interviewed on the radio after becoming involved. I started thinking of Cowboys. No sympathy for Bolton. In hindsight they couldn't really afford Coyle's huge salary.
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by aggi » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:03 am
Sidney1st wrote:It's probably about time the tax office took that one to the courts and over turned it.
I wonder how many clubs would disappear if they had to pay the taxman first?
It would possibly have a domino effect I suppose, because other clubs would be reliant on the transfer money to pay their own bills etc.
HMRC went to court on it a few years ago, maybe with Leeds, and the ruling was that football debtors would remain as preferred debtors. The reasoning is that you don't want other clubs to suffer because of one club's financial mismanagement and skew the league.
Obviously this isn't the case in business normally where one collapse can precipitate a number of others and you expect businesses to do their credit checks correctly.
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by Sidney1st » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:10 am
aggi wrote:HMRC went to court on it a few years ago, maybe with Leeds, and the ruling was that football debtors would remain as preferred debtors. The reasoning is that you don't want other clubs to suffer because of one club's financial mismanagement and skew the league.
Obviously this isn't the case in business normally where one collapse can precipitate a number of others and you expect businesses to do their credit checks correctly.
I suppose they could give clubs x amount of years to get their act together before changing the rules?
That would be fairer then and maybe, just maybe, clubs would start behaving sensibly in regards to the wages they're paying out.
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cricketfieldclarets
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by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Feb 10, 2017 11:22 am
This is why we should be careful who we sell players too.
Maybe this is why Norwich wanted to sell Brady to Palace not us. Not because we are in a bad place now but as we possibly offered staggered payments and Palace up front, maybe thats the reason.
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by dsr » Fri Feb 10, 2017 12:24 pm
It would be fairer and more reasonable if they went back to the rule that said unless a club pays its debts, they are relegated out of the pyramid. Phoenix clubs can be formed. It will stop clubs lurching from one dodgy owner to another, it will mean clubs with no money and dodgy owners will find it harder to buy players because the selling club will need to safeguard the debt, and because players will know their inflated contract may not be worth the paper it's written on, and it will stop the unfair advantage of administration and wiping off debts. And the directors of bankrupt clubs should get fairly long bans from being football club directors again.
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by 50 shades of Grey » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:08 pm
Going slightly off track, and I know it has been done to death before, but I'll never forget some of their smug fans endlessly coming on to the forums, delighted Coyle (their 9 goal leg-end) was leaving us for them, along with his now infamous '10 years ahead of little of Burnley' momentous speech. Oh, how they laughed. Well, they're not fec kin laughing now.
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by Sidney1st » Fri Feb 10, 2017 1:12 pm
50 shades of Grey wrote:Going slightly off track, and I know it has been done to death before, but I'll never forget some of their smug fans endlessly coming on to the forums, delighted Coyle (their 9 goal leg-end) was leaving us for them, along with his now infamous '10 years ahead of little of Burnley' momentous speech. Oh, how they laughed. Well, they're not fec kin laughing now.
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You're hard pressed to find any on FB, or elsewhere outside of their own forums.
Rovers fans are also becoming thin on the ground apart from a handful of the older more hardy ones.
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by FCBurnley » Fri Feb 10, 2017 5:24 pm
Cant imagine how Eddie Davis family feel about him blowing 170 million of their inheritance !
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by Ightenclaret » Fri Feb 10, 2017 7:26 pm
There is only One Club In Lancashire.
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by cricketfieldclarets » Fri Feb 10, 2017 10:45 pm
Sidney1st wrote:You're hard pressed to find any on FB, or elsewhere outside of their own forums.
Rovers fans are also becoming thin on the ground apart from a handful of the older more hardy ones.
The one i worked with changed allegiences. He was a bolton fan. Then when we beat them in the cup game he switched allegiances. Unbelievable.