TOTAL EMBARRASMENT

Pwoodman · Post by **Pwoodman** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:07 pm

Maybe our Manager needs to look at the bigger picture regarding this sort of game and be honest enough to give any opposition respect, we were drawn into a niggling contest which I am sure was part of the game plan by Lincoln and we paid the price. Several players had chances and to be honest I think Gray is showing the level he is capable of and no more , poor in front of goal, lack of industry and commitment along with a few others. A lot of hard work gone down the tubes over 1 silly decision not to go into this game full bloodied with a full team. Echoes of Stan at Watford for me , a great chance thrown away by forgetting who we are and what we are. Sorry Sean you have made a major blunder Today which may have a roll on effect.

Brunlea · Post by **Brunlea** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:07 pm

Well played Lincoln. We had an off day. That's football. Move on!

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:09 pm

quoonbeatz wrote: wtf?

Think about it, wherever we finish in the league, everyone will always remember it for the season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by a non league Lincoln at home.

TsarBomba · Post by **TsarBomba** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:09 pm

On a positive note, Dyche won't be going anywhere anytime soon. Accrington, now Lincoln, and one point away from home has put paid to that.

We have moulded a side over 2-3 years to play without the ball, and be effective. In the odd game that we do have the lions share of possession, we have shown just how poor we are as technicians. It says something when our two best ball players today were our centre halves.

I'll be very interested to hear Dyche's interview later. There should be no excuses, and I'll be disappointed in him if there is.

I wonder if the players realise the magnitude of this defeat. This is something that will be replayed in 20/30/40 years time. I hope they acknowledge the embarrassment, like we the fans do.

There'll be a lot of hurt Burnley fans tonight. We have been let down badly. I'm not normally one to say players aren't fit to wear the shirt, but there a certain culprits today who need to take a long hard look at themselves. If they don't play for Burnley again, I won't be disappointed.

Credit to Lincoln.

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:09 pm

DCWat wrote:No excuse whatsoever.

We were more intent on getting ourselves involved in the physical elements of the game.

Awful, awful performance and we got exactly what we deserved - an embarrassing defeat. Well done Lincoln.

I most certainly wasn't making excuses but merely pointing out that KRBFC was exaggerating with his comment that we had a near full strength team starting

RingoMcCartney · Post by **RingoMcCartney** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:09 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Probably the best season ive ever witnessed as a Burnley fan completely overshadowed by this one result. Shameful

If we stay up, it will still be the first time weve had consecutive seasons in the top tier since the mid 1970s. That is progress and a massive success.
Yes todays result will take the gloss off, course it will.Bigger teams have been knocked out in the past. And they'll be knocked out in the future. Thats the "magic of the Cup" But, if I had the choice of a cup win and relegation, its being in the Premeir League for the start of the 2017/18 season every time.

It'd be just like Burnley to go and win the f""kin thing next season!

Lets take some advice from Stan Ternent, and take this one on the chin.

Survival in the Premier League overshadows everything.

Bring on Hull.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:10 pm

CombatClaret wrote:To defend Boyd he does what is needed of him and is a vital part of our current league match system, picked out for praise v Chelsea on MOTD.
What we cannot expect though is for him to replace the creativity of JBG, Defour or Brady such as he was asked to do today with our line up.

I buy into what he does defensively. But we have to improve and the most obvious weakness we have is the final ball. You could spend a fortune and buy a far better striker than Gray, but it wouldn't improve the team because that service would remain shocking.
It's not as if it's a knee jerk reaction, he and Arfield have been far too wasteful for a season and a half now.
With better ball retention we probably wouldn't be thriving on only 20-30% possession every game. In which case we wouldn't be as reliant on their defensive role.

Woodleyclaret · Post by **Woodleyclaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:11 pm

Use of subs and stupid hoof ball tactics lost us this game.Why was Dan Ageyi not played wide in second half.We lacked width and guile.Darikwa choose to pass back instead of beating his man on numerous occasions and why our players didn't support each other with pass and move game is a mystery.Bring on Hull and let's get our pride back .Today was a game to forget
Thank goodness I watched it in Thailand.I would have hate to have heard our fans at the end

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:11 pm

RingoMcCartney wrote:If we stay up, it will still be the first time weve had consecutive seasons in the top tier since the mid 1970s. That is progress and a massive success.
Yes todays result will take the gloss off, course it will.Bigger teams have been knocked out in the past. And they'll be knocked out in the future. Thats the "magic of the Cup" But, if I had the choice of a cup win and relegation, its being in the Premeir League for the start of the 2017/18 season every time.

It'd be just like Burnley to go and win the f""kin thing next season!

Lets take some advice from Stan Ternent, and take this one on the chin.

Survival in the Premier League overshadows everything.

Bring on Hull.

In fairness I wrote that whilst still fuming and dumbfounded so was an OTT response

Claret_Jules · Post by **Claret_Jules** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:13 pm

This thread is an embarrassment. We were awful, they were decent, we lost. Should that mean we forget that we've got it as good as we've ever had it as Burnley fans?

Booing at the end was, quite frankly, shameful. These lads have sweat blood for the club. They shouldn't be pilloried for one bad day at the office.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:13 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Think about it, wherever we finish in the league, everyone will always remember it for the season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by a non league Lincoln at home.

Why? Accys a distant memory for one.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:15 pm

cricketfieldclarets wrote:Why? Accys a distant memory for one.

Dunno tbh was jst fuming when I wrote those replies, calmed down now and just want a BIG reaction next week

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:15 pm

Pwoodman wrote:Maybe our Manager needs to look at the bigger picture regarding this sort of game and be honest enough to give any opposition respect, we were drawn into a niggling contest which I am sure was part of the game plan by Lincoln and we paid the price. Several players had chances and to be honest I think Gray is showing the level he is capable of and no more , poor in front of goal, lack of industry and commitment along with a few others. A lot of hard work gone down the tubes over 1 silly decision not to go into this game full bloodied with a full team. Echoes of Stan at Watford for me , a great chance thrown away by forgetting who we are and what we are. Sorry Sean you have made a major blunder Today which may have a roll on effect.

I don't think we took them lightly, we knew because their manager told us, that they play a similar style to us.
Where we went wrong was playing that game they wanted. Long balls forward was what they wanted and what we gave them. We needed to get the ball on the deck and keep it there. We didn't and paid the price.

Thirteen · Post by **Thirteen** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Gutted.

However, we're in the Premier League and doing alright. Today is a great example of why this competition is great, if we look back 30 years and do a role reversal, we wouldn't trade. Let's give them credit and move on to securing our PREMIER LEAGUE status.

UTC NNN.

JohnMac · Post by **JohnMac** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:18 pm

At least our own Billy Big ******** fans can disappear now.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:19 pm

I'd be looking at there centre half who scored as a replacement for keane, kept all our forwards quiet.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:19 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Think about it, wherever we finish in the league, everyone will always remember it for the season we got knocked out of the FA Cup by a non league Lincoln at home.

i won't. its already gone.

its the fa cup and these kind of results happen every season. in fairness we were due one, its not happened since the 70s.

forzagranata · Post by **forzagranata** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:19 pm

Where we went wrong was playing that game they wanted. Long balls forward was what they wanted and what we gave them. We needed to get the ball on the deck and keep it there. We didn't and paid the price.

Exactly.

The sooner Defour and Hendrick are back, the better. We simply couldn't string five passes together and every time we bunged it to Vokes or Gray it bounced off them and to a Lincoln player.

It wasn't about us 'not being up for it' or about attitude - it was about the lack of passing ability.

But clearly this game wasn't a priority for Dyche.

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:20 pm

One of the greatest cup shocks in history. The performance was rotten. It is an embarrassment.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:21 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:i won't. its already gone.

its the fa cup and these kind of results happen every season. in fairness we were due one, its not happened since the 70s.

I agree, I was angry, and wrong. Hurts a little but just gotta laugh it off

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:21 pm

Hope Lincoln can go to Wembley, they deserve it.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:23 pm

It's a good job that football doesn't really matter. Just imagine the massive overreaction if it did. It's only a game and we have another one next week, which gives everyone time to calm down and have a beer.

SloughClarets · Post by **SloughClarets** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:23 pm

I think the word embarrassment is going to be used a lot this week and rightfully so.

Flanagan for me, is awful. He brings nothing to the side at all and agree that Gray looked like he wanted to be anywhere else today than playing football.

It's a bit much to suggest this results destroys a good season so far. But from now till the rest of the season we will have to put up with the quote

"Yeah but you got knocked out the cup by a non league side"

In response to anything good we do.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:23 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Probably the best season ive ever witnessed as a Burnley fan completely overshadowed by this one result. Shameful

It was a total embarrassment today. Dreadful performances by most of the players and tactically diabolical. But the above post is just stupid.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:23 pm

I must say, we played far better against Wimbledon back in the day, than we did today. I still can't understand how we lost that year, but today was easy to see.

quoonbeatz · Post by **quoonbeatz** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:25 pm

taio wrote:It was a total embarrassment today. Dreadful performances by most of the players and tactically diabolical. But the above post is just stupid.

to be fair hendrickshair has said it was OTT in the heat of the moment.

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:I'm surprised that Darikwa is coming in for so much stick, at least he tried.
Nothing really wrong with Tarkowski or Keane for that matter...not so good after that, though.

I'm not Darikwa's biggest fan, but today when he got down the wing he looked our only semi-dangerous player.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:30 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:to be fair hendrickshair has said it was OTT in the heat of the moment.

Then I retract as I haven't read all the thread

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:31 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I genuinely wish I never see Scott Arcield wear a Burnley shirt again.

WELL DONT GO ON THEN !

what a stupid comment.

HendricksHair · Post by **HendricksHair** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:33 pm

taio wrote:It was a total embarrassment today. Dreadful performances by most of the players and tactically diabolical. But the above post is just stupid.

Complete over reaction on my part, was just hurt and angry , I retract my previous statement

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:36 pm

Lincolns fans and players can have their day in the spotlight, who cares ? look at the dregs that have made the latter stages in recent times, shows how bad the f a cup has got.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:39 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:Lincolns fans and players can have their day in the spotlight, who cares ? look at the dregs that have made the latter stages in recent times, shows how bad the f a cup has got.

I care a lot. I wanted us to progress. And I certainly didn't expect such an appalling display today.

Jeffbfc · Post by **Jeffbfc** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:39 pm

Some times you can defend what you have seen, today was not one of them days.
Shocking performance, some of our so called Premier League players are championship standard at best, they have to be up for it ever game and when not this is what happens.
It's been said many a time on this forum, we lack proper pace out wide and for how good Arfield and Boyd have been since they came in we really need to improve the options out wide.
A result like this could really dent the confidence of the players, and with the run of away games we now have, the next games performance/result could define our season.
Shocking today, truly shocking.
UTC

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:46 pm

I saw the game on TV. I wouldn't say Lincoln deserved it or were the better side. It looked like a game between two evenly matched teams. That of course is a disappointing statement to make for us.

I don't think it's right to read too much into individual or the team performance. It is a good question as to why we appeared equal to Lincoln and I can only put it down to being a cup tie.

After we lost against Wimbledon we won three of our next four games and moved up to second in the table.

claretabroad · Post by **claretabroad** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:47 pm

A lot of our players had poor performances both regular starters and those on the fringe. Credit to Lincoln though, they played the game on their terms and then beat us at it. Interestingly, what I am reading from our fans today is very similar to what I've read opposing fans say after we have turned their team over at the turf. We played badly because Lincoln made us play badly and they should get the full credit for their performance.

SkiptonClaret · Post by **SkiptonClaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:49 pm

Losing JBG early was a real blow, left us with a team of runners and very little, if any, creativity. Hull is going to be a very tough one with the available personnel.

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:50 pm

Today further increased my opinion that Jeff Hendrick is an outstanding footballer

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:52 pm

i feel no embarrassment whatsoever, Burnley have beaten some of the best in the premier league, our season will not be damaged by this distraction now.

mrhungryone · Post by **mrhungryone** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:54 pm

JarrowClaret wrote:Typical of the sort of arrogance shown by Burnley fans this week as we'll. No hassle we are allowed off days congratulations Lincoln unfortunately it is what I expected after reading this board this week oh well you live and learn.

I second your comments and mentioned the arrogance of our fans/posters on the lincoln crowd thread this week...

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 3:58 pm

Who on earth has put a man of the match list up
There having a laugh surely.

FulledgeClaret · Post by **FulledgeClaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:01 pm

We got exactly what we deserved for a poor performance, They were rubbish but we were worse in every department.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:10 pm

Today showed the big problem with our gameplan. If a team is prepared to mix it and match us for effort then we are screwed. For supposed top flight footballers Boyd and Arfield were absolutely pathetic today.

Grimsby Claret · Post by **Grimsby Claret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:11 pm

Also We Burnley fans. Did not help no Atmosphere today from our fans.
We could have lifted the team and played our part didn't happen.

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:27 pm

Can someone tell me why Scott Arfield is still getting on the pitch for us? What are his strengths? At the end of season needs thanking for his efforts and shipping out.

smudge · Post by **smudge** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:31 pm

Feel a bit embarrassed nothing more.
Never been an FA cup fan.Don't even watch the final can't remember who won last year.
A scrappy and disjointed game made so by tactics used by Lincoln as well as a poor performance by us.
Good luck to Lincoln well done.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:35 pm

I have to sy that, although I was disappointed in the immediate aftermath of the game, I'm pretty much over it now.

The League is far more important right now. S second consecutive season in the Premiership is well within our grasp. Let's get it in the bag as soon as possible.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:37 pm

[quote="KefkaClaret"]I genuinely wish I never see Scott Arcield wear a Burnley shirt again.[/quote

Erm. What?

He might not have had a good game today, but, really? Come on.

Foulthrow · Post by **Foulthrow** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:41 pm

HendricksHair wrote:Probably the best season ive ever witnessed as a Burnley fan completely overshadowed by this one result. Shameful

If we stay up - even if we win at Hull - this result will soon be forgotten. That's the magic of the cup for you.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:41 pm

Its one of those things, just a really, really bad performance and result.

Maybe a Rovers fan will try to take the **** Monday morning, I won't let it bother me and I'll just say "shame about those Venkys not going anywhere eh"

Only a game

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sat Feb 18, 2017 4:42 pm

Gutless. Wrong team wrong tactics and woeful performanced.