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RingoMcCartney
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by RingoMcCartney » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:43 pm
THEWELLERNUT70 wrote:Today the model has issued an apology after extended footage of the incident was unearthed showing her behaving like a d!ck prior to the incident.
She claimed "it's just not me"
She was thrown out of the bar for dancing on tables.
She also offered advice saying don't drink too much and take it steady
She apologised. Only after trying to play the victim. And some lavish use of the "but I'm an ickle girl" card.
Instead of offering advice. She should accept she's had her moment in the limelight for all the wrong reasons. And though it may be difficult. Keep a low profile.
Next week's fish n chip paper.
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Sidney1st
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by Sidney1st » Sat Apr 22, 2017 10:45 pm
Wonder if she's still using the iron chin hashtag?
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boatshed bill
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by boatshed bill » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:36 pm
"Model", just looks like some pist up bird to me!
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Jakubclaret
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by Jakubclaret » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:46 pm
SonofPog wrote:I'm of the opinion that we should hold security professionals to high standards than a drunk person (be it male or female).
They should be trained to defuse a situation, there are plenty of physical holds and actions that could have subdued the situation and allowed them to escort (rightly) her off the premises, without physical harm. Taking a swing a someone doesn't mean you're instantly fair game for a slap.
But, let's also not crucify the bloke, he didn't permanently damage her and she's apologised when she's sobered up.
When somebody is hellbent on doing you damage you have to make sure you put them out of action by using reasonable measures. I don't think she was fair game by any means but restraining her could have easily resulted in the situation flaring up even more & escalating. I do agree with trained personnel certain actions could have subdued elite forces get trained up do that bouncers/doormen have limited knowledge of that. It would take a highly skilled person as a example to restrain her & subdue well above a bouncers paygrade.
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dsr
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by dsr » Sat Apr 22, 2017 11:54 pm
SonofPog wrote:I'm of the opinion that we should hold security professionals to high standards than a drunk person (be it male or female).
They should be trained to defuse a situation, there are plenty of physical holds and actions that could have subdued the situation and allowed them to escort (rightly) her off the premises, without physical harm. Taking a swing a someone doesn't mean you're instantly fair game for a slap.
But, let's also not crucify the bloke, he didn't permanently damage her and she's apologised when she's sobered up.
But if you start encouraging bouncers to take physical hold of their female customers, that might just start some complaints running in a different direction ...
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SonofPog
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by SonofPog » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:02 am
Interesting opinions fellas. (That's much more sarcastic than it meant to be). Honestly assumed that bouncers had a basic level of self defence training.
I do take your point that "restraining" might lead to some allegations, but it's a little bit easier to explain. "The lady took a swing at me, so I applied an arm lock and escorted her off the premises" than "the lady took a swing at me, so I lumped her one back, made sure not to hit her too hard though"
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dsr
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by dsr » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:05 am
SonofPog wrote:Interesting opinions fellas. (That's much more sarcastic than it meant to be). Honestly assumed that bouncers had a basic level of self defence training.
I do take your point that "restraining" might lead to some allegations, but it's a little bit easier to explain. "The lady took a swing at me, so I applied an arm lock and escorted her off the premises" than "the lady took a swing at me, so I lumped her one back, made sure not to hit her too hard though"
Successfully applying an armlock surely needs a lot of practice; it isn't just basic self defence. Basic self defence is wrapping her up in a bear hug, and that's likely to cause objections.
If he tries an armlock and breaks her arm, what then? I bet that's easy for a big muscle man to do to a non-bodybuilder female, if he's not an expert.
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Jakubclaret
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by Jakubclaret » Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:10 am
A Sia licence takes about 45hrs guaranteed pass I believe including everything shows you pretty much the level of training no disrespect to any Sia licence holders I think it's the kind of thing which improves with experience.
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tim_noone
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by tim_noone » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:18 am
Id rather lay a model train track.....
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Sidney1st
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by Sidney1st » Sun Apr 23, 2017 10:25 am
tim_noone wrote:Id rather lay a model train track.....
I'd drive a train through her.
I wouldn't take her for a drink though.