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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Stan Tastic » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:17 pm

Still waiting for the injection of pace.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Dyched » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:18 pm

I'm surprised Stoke are letting him go. I saw a few of their games last season and they always turned to Walters and Crouch when their more flair players weren't performing. It's a good signing for us. Dyche knows exactly what he's getting with him. 100% each week. That's what we need.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by KefkaClaret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:22 pm

So we've swapped from Boyd and Arfield to Walters and Arfield. Good to see us keeping with the hoof ball style.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Pearcey » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:25 pm

Solid signing but I hope it doesn't end our chase for Assombalonga.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by taio » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:28 pm

Pearcey wrote:Solid signing but I hope it doesn't end our chase for Assombalonga.

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I'd guess we'll make a second bid for him. I reckon Gray will leave so we'll need another forward.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by UpTheBeehole » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:28 pm

Some cracking goals at Pearcey's link.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Woonderbah » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:28 pm

But can he play Centre Half ??

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:33 pm

Unusual for people on here to write off a new signing as not good enough before he's even kicked a ball for us.

Obviously the bloke who has got us promoted twice and kept us in the top league thinks differently to a lot on here but what on earth would he know about the game?
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:34 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:So we've swapped from Boyd and Arfield to Walters and Arfield. Good to see us keeping with the hoof ball style.
Have you ever enjoyed supporting Burnley?

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Cubanclaret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:37 pm

It won't affect our pursuit of assombalonga. The offer went in for Walters a fortnight or so ago.
A canny signing and very important to have some nous and leadership in that front line.
I think he'll do well for us.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by LawsCanalJump » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:39 pm

Good solid signing IMO
Relatively cheap with lots of experience and is definitely going to fit the framework!
He will certainly be a presence in the box on set peices and crosses


If dyche wants him, he is good for me!
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Woonderbah » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:39 pm

Julie Walters was a cracker back in the day... just saying

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Slurpy » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:40 pm

Obviously, we are extremely fortunate with the position we are in, but it's almost as if the way we play and the players we sign put a real dampener on the situation and make it less enjoyable for some.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by jojomk1 » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:41 pm

what_no_pies wrote:Cracking signing. Works as hard as anybody and looked to have plenty in his legs when I saw him last season. We know exactly what we're getting with this signing and a 25yr old with similar ability on a 3yr contract would have cost £20m instead of 2. Keeps th big money freed up for other players too. Should prove good business sense whilst we're still trying to establish ourselves in this league.
Are we talking about George Boyd here :D

Have never seen him play in CM but, as a wide man, don't see any improvement on GB

If he has been bought as a striker - is he any better than what we have got
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:41 pm

Very unfashionable singing so it won't impress a lot of people on here but in my opinion a very shrewd addition to the squad and at a rock bottom price. As it stands he would probably be our best strike partner for Gray (although I'd like us to upgrade in this position further) and he is comfortably an upgrade on Boyd in a 'wide' position.

He's good at holding the ball up, strong in the air, has an eye for goal (without being prolific) and is a hard man and a natural winner with bags of PL experience.

Age isn't on his side but given the prize on offer for just surviving a season in the Premier League our signings need to be a mixture of looking to the future and plugging gaps for the here and now.

I'm sure Walters won't represent the pinnacle of our ambition in this transfer window, you'd have to be pretty numb to think so, so this is a good signing.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by taio » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:42 pm

Woonderbah wrote:Julie Walters was a cracker back in the day... just saying
Couple of corkers from you on this thread. One asking if Walters can play centre back and now reference to Julie Walters. Keep them coming

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Bin Ont Turf » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:43 pm

Stand down bedwetters.

A pensioner will never pass a Dyche fit medical at our place anyway.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by scouseclaret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:45 pm

Are we aiming to sign the entire Irish national team?

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by yorkyclaret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:46 pm

Long way between 'Fee agreed' and holding a scarf aloft saying 'it's the move I have always dreamed of'.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by jrgbfc » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:47 pm

Do we really need another ageing, hard working scrapper?

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by arise_sir_charge » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:47 pm

A very decent signing in my view. Always rated him. Very good at what he does and seems to fit our style well.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by dermotdermot » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:49 pm

Image

Obviously has some form.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:52 pm

Ashingtonclaret46 wrote:Burnley fans write off a player who represented his country 8 times last season and is hungry to get to the World Cup Finals in 2018 and will give us a wealth of experience and knowledge at this level.
He is a snip at £3M and I think that he will prove to be a real asset this coming season.
hang on , bit of perspective here, if you have a pair of boots you'll get a game for ireland.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by taio » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:54 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:hang on , bit of perspective here, if you have a pair of boots you'll get a game for ireland.
Ranked 26th in the world...bit of perspective here
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by DCWat » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:54 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:hang on , bit of perspective here, if you have a pair of boots you'll get a game for ireland.
Brady, Hendrick and Ward (Long too) will be delighted with that.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by claretdom » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:56 pm

Guess which player is getting the Boyd 3 score from next season if he signs

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:56 pm

Someone who will fit in & give us the nous in the prem, will be a must for away games with his drive commitment & hold up play, Stoke supporters i work with are well naffed off, they have given Ireland a new contract.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by ExistentialWanderer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:56 pm

taio wrote:Ranked 26th in the world...bit of perspective here
That's not something to be excited about! Top 15 maybe.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:57 pm

tiger76 wrote:Still waiting for that exciting winger, or the midfield playmaker ,Walters is solid but don't see him as a game changer at this level. Presume he is Boyd's replacement, suppose as a short-term fix he will be adequate.
We've got a genuine midfield playmaker.

Doesn't play because he's not a runner, despite us knowing when we signed him that he never was, and never will be.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Spijed » Wed Jul 05, 2017 3:57 pm

yorkyclaret wrote:Long way between 'Fee agreed' and holding a scarf aloft saying 'it's the move I have always dreamed of'.
You'd have thought that before making a bid for a player we'd have been in touch with their agent to see if they would be interested in joining us.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by duncandisorderly » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:00 pm

£3,000,000 is the new £750,000, so it's a fair price. Certainly better value than 1.5m for Juke, or 2m for Cort in their respective transfers. (with the benefit of hindsight, of course)

If you forget the money angle of it, which is really neither or nor there, then Jon Walters playing for Burnley is a good thing.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:01 pm

34 but very fit. I for one am happy with JW signing with us. No doubt we need upgrades elsewhere in terms of pace and a playmaker but if you would have said before last season we would be getting Walters I'm sure most folk would have been happy.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Fez » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:01 pm

An unfair comparison with zlatan. Walters is twice as good

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by ExistentialWanderer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:02 pm

Not surprised. Covers a multitude of positions. Opens up more money for crucial signings. To me it makes sense.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:02 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Stand down bedwetters.

A pensioner will never pass a Dyche fit medical at our place anyway.
******** to finesse, first touch, pace, or creative instinct. You'll only get into this Burnley side if you run until you spew.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Sutton-Claret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:04 pm

34 isn't old... I'm 44 and can still run the length of a footy pitch without passing out.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:04 pm

No-one is doubting Walters' fitness levels. Fitness isn't the issue here.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:04 pm

TsarBomba wrote:******** to finesse, first touch, pace, or creative instinct. You'll only get into this Burnley side if you run until you spew.
It's crap having a fit, hard working team.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by IndigoLake » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:05 pm

I think how I interpret this signing really depends on how the rest of our transfer business this summer goes. If Walters is coming in to provide a boost from the bench, add experience etc then so be it. I'm fine with that if we add better quality up front. But if Walters is the best we're getting (I doubt it) then I'd be pretty disappointed.

Anyway, he's a player with plenty of Premier League experience and you can't have too much of that. 226 games in the PL - not bad! He's obviously got something about him. But we won't be able to rely on him for many goals, that's for sure.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by claretdom » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:06 pm

TsarBomba wrote:No-one is doubting Walters' fitness levels. Fitness isn't the issue here.

Is it playing the last 7 years at this level that is the issue ?

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Holtyclaret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:07 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Image

Obviously has some form.
He really hates Spongebob Squarepants!! :lol: :lol:

Seriously though, good addition of experience and strength and a good addition to the squad for a couple of years.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by ExistentialWanderer » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:08 pm

IndigoLake wrote:I think how I interpret this signing really depends on how the rest of our transfer business this summer goes. If Walters is coming in to provide a boost from the bench, add experience etc then so be it. I'm fine with that if we add better quality up front. But if Walters is the best we're getting (I doubt it) then I'd be pretty disappointed.

Anyway, he's a player with plenty of Premier League experience and you can't have too much of that. 226 games in the PL - not bad! He's obviously got something about him. But we won't be able to rely on him for many goals, that's for sure.
I don't think he was ever (assuming he is coming) to be considered as a striker. It's not his natural role.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Wile E Coyote » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:14 pm

chris bonnington just climbed old man of hoy at age 80, doesnt mean hes still any good though.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by TsarBomba » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:16 pm

Rileybobs wrote:It's crap having a fit, hard working team.
No-one said that. A semi professional team should be fit and hard working, at an absolute minimum.

Prioritising fitness and running ability for every position and player, which we quite clearly do when we bench a genuine talent in Defour, will only get us so far.

If we're looking to progress, then we need to incorporate individuals who have a wider range of talents than we currently have.

Walters doesn't give us that progression.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Selby Claret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:20 pm

Lots of people have been commenting on here about following Stoke's example of small, solid steps towards Premier League establishment.

Then we sign one of Stoke's players who has been key to that 'business' model and suddenly its a problem?!

Younger than Ibra, younger than Defoe - same age as when Joey signed....

Seven years - continuous - employment in the PL and able to play in a variety of positions.

Its a yes from me.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Jakubs Tash » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:21 pm

People conveniently forgetting that Walters has played Premier League football for 7-8 years which requires actual ability.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Walt » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:23 pm

I think for the money he is good value adding experience. Experienced yet can still offer something rather than a few of our other older signings.

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Rileybobs » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:24 pm

TsarBomba wrote:No-one said that. A semi professional team should be fit and hard working, at an absolute minimum.

Prioritising fitness and running ability for every position and player, which we quite clearly do when we bench a genuine talent in Defour, will only get us so far.

If we're looking to progress, then we need to incorporate individuals who have a wider range of talents than we currently have.

Walters doesn't give us that progression.
Dyche's prioritising of fitness and running ability (if that's what you believe) has taken us to our highest finish in god knows how long. So yes, it might only get us so far, but that's further than we've been in my lifetime.

Also, I don't see the issue with benching a player who was not physically fit enough to compete for 90 minutes. As you put it, a semi professional team should be fit as a minimum requirement. Defour didn't meet that minimum requirement.

If course, we also need to add some more creative ability into the side, and I'm sure we will but naturally these players are harder to find and harder to sign - as such we're likely to be waiting a little further into the transfer window before we sign them.

I entirely disagree that Walters doesn't have a wider range of talents than we currently have. I'd say he probably has a wider range of talents than the vast majority of our current squad.
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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by D8BFC » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:26 pm

I'll give anyone a chance but to compare Walters with Ibrahimovic is just :D :D

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Re: Walters fee agreed

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:27 pm

"Walters doesn't give us that progression" ??????????????????????????

You not watched the PL for the last 7 seasons then ? Only Burnley fans would moan when we sign a current full international with 7 consecutive years top flight experience.
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