Ranocchia

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:50 pm

Nowt in it according to Chris Boden

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 6:53 pm

End of thread.

John Johnson 1605 · Post by **John Johnson 1605** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:20 pm

A day before we signed Barton he said exactly the same !

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:33 pm

Boden gets told less and less by the club every season. I don't even know why Fans take his word as gospel.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:37 pm

Just reporting what he says is not taking it as gospel, and he knows a hell of a lot more than some of the wantabee ITKs that plague this forum and twitter.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:44 pm

give me Dawson any day of the week

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:49 pm

No chance of signing Dawson. Pulis is more bereft of defenders than we are.

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:50 pm

We canot rely on signing Dawson, that always sounded pie in the sky and the sort of crap we were doing 2 years ago when we put all our eggs in one basket. Too big a risk.

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:54 pm

Ranocchia would have been decent but not too bothered if there's nothing in it, there's probably better out there.

Also really hope we're not relying on West Brom letting Dawson out, because we'll leave ourselves short if that's the case.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:02 pm

Dawson would be a great addition but it looks very unlikely now given their lack of options at the back - especially if City bag Evans. I'd be amazed however if we were banking on those dicks again after being stung twice.

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:57 pm

Apparently having a medical and could be announced shortly (news from Italy).

Guller Bull · Post by **Guller Bull** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:59 pm

Lets hope his medical shows up clear and it is us that have got a touch of Ranocchia instead!

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:00 pm

Porky pies again?

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:01 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Porky pies again?

Nope - this is news outa Milan - he's having a medical.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:06 pm

Arent the italian press just citing sky sports as their source for this ?

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:09 pm

This is coming from Inter fans .....

martin_p · Post by **martin_p** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:12 pm

bfccrazy wrote:This is coming from Inter fans .....

Where?

cockneyclaret · Post by **cockneyclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:16 pm

Italian Teletext

Jambounchained · Post by **Jambounchained** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:19 pm

Clubcalla

gawthorpe_view · Post by **gawthorpe_view** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:21 pm

Plenty of speculation on't tinterweb.

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:27 pm

Plenty of speculation, all citing a Sky Sports article which doesn't exist, either in the UK or Italy.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:27 pm

You're at least 3 hours behind, It was posted on the Ranocchia topic hours ago.

Westyorkclaret · Post by **Westyorkclaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:28 pm

Flight tracker shows he is on his way back to Italy without a contract

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:14 pm

I posted this on the 22nd May and stand by it...

"Andrea Ranocchia is apparently surplus to requirements at Inter and has just had half a season in the PL so he wouldn't be an unknown quantity. He's got 20+ Italy caps and is 29 years old. For a CB that's a good age. Rumoured fee of around £9m. He'd be on my radar big time. Good replacement for Keane with money spare to strengthen elsewhere."

Not convinced he'd knock Tarky out of the team but he's about as good as we'll get as third choice. 20 odd caps at centre half for Italy shouldn't be sniffed at!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:38 pm

martin_p wrote:Where?

A couple of inter fans that are converted clarets.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:47 pm

jlup1980 wrote:I posted this on the 22nd May and stand by it...

"Andrea Ranocchia is apparently surplus to requirements at Inter and has just had half a season in the PL so he wouldn't be an unknown quantity. He's got 20+ Italy caps and is 29 years old. For a CB that's a good age. Rumoured fee of around £9m. He'd be on my radar big time. Good replacement for Keane with money spare to strengthen elsewhere."

Not convinced he'd knock Tarky out of the team but he's about as good as we'll get as third choice. 20 odd caps at centre half for Italy shouldn't be sniffed at!

If he's an Italian international, you'd think he would replace Tarkowski.

BabylonClaret · Post by **BabylonClaret** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:41 pm

bfccrazy wrote:Apparently having a medical and could be announced shortly (news from Italy).

Hahahahahahahahahaha

No-one's going to beliwve anything you post.

Wolf! Wolf!

bfccrazy · Post by **bfccrazy** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:46 pm

BabylonClaret wrote:Hahahahahahahahahaha

No-one's going to beliwve anything you post.

Wolf! Wolf!

Ok

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Thu Aug 17, 2017 11:48 pm

http://www.football-italia.net/108329/r ... dy-burnley" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

No interest in a permanent transfer from Hull after his previous loan spell. Linked with everyone recently.

That bastion of journalistic accuracy "The Sun" pegged his transfer fee at £4.5 million last month.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football ... ranocchia/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If he is coming I hope it's only on a six month loan and the Sun where smoking happy flowers when they plucked his salary expectations out of the air.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:23 am

BabylonClaret wrote:Hahahahahahahahahaha

No-one's going to beliwve anything you post.

Wolf! Wolf!

Not saying its gospel but inter mates say its happening... and hes ****! Ha! I think hes a decent signing personally.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:58 am

A unanimous opinion of him on the Inter Forum. Normally you get for and against on football forum player evaluations, but everyone is in complete agreement about him. I get the strong feeling that they won't be sad if he leaves the club and even though I feel a little guilty about it some of their comments made me laugh - like the Ebay Auction for him.

http://forzainterforums.com/showthread. ... 2e76211c6d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Walton · Post by **Walton** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 1:15 am

Sounds like the Italian Kevin Long, in that he's long overstayed his welcome and never been good enough.

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 3:19 am

They don't seem too impressed with Ben Mee, either.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:48 am

if anyone can sort a defender out it's Dyche

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:08 am

That is my thinking, but it's a tad annoying to see the Stoke fans wetting themselves and drooling over the possibility that they are going to pick up the guy that I've been harping on about for the past month

Especially when they have already picked up one quality defender in the sub £10mil range during this window already - in the form of Bruno Martins Indi.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:10 am

Quicknick wrote:They don't seem too impressed with Ben Mee, either.

No they love Ben Mee. The ffs is at him being next to Ranocchi instead of Keane.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:20 am

cricketfieldclarets wrote:No they love Ben Mee. The ffs is at him being next to Ranocchi instead of Keane.

Nods, that was the impression I got. They where questioning unsuitability of the potential partnership.

Like a top of the range 4x4 pulling along a rickety old caravan that is likely to suffer a flat or topple over at any given moment.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:28 am

Ranocchia in, Mee to West Brom (God forbid!) and Dawson in as his replacement. Joking aside, what would Mee`s value be? I`m actually surprised Man City don`t see him as the home-grown solution to their `problem`. Mee would be the last Burnley player I would sell but if we did, I wouldn`t sell him for anything less than 20 million.

Burnley Ace · Post by **Burnley Ace** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:30 am

That must be the first time Ranocchia has ever been compared to a rusty old caravan! As with Keane I'm sure Mee will help him flourish and up his game.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:37 am

Whatever they say, a defender who's made 129 appearances for Inter and has 21 caps for the most renowned defence unit in international football can't be a total mug.

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:39 am

Nope, not having that.

Bunch of football fans say he's ****, so he must be.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:57 am

scouseclaret wrote:Whatever they say, a defender who's made 129 appearances for Inter and has 21 caps for the most renowned defence unit in international football can't be a total mug.

It must be a very fair point, SAYING THAT, we all know some muppets who have gained similar appearances in the Premier League and for England whilst we`ve all shaken our collective heads.

jlup1980 · Post by **jlup1980** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:57 am

Lancasterclaret wrote:Nope, not having that.

Bunch of football fans say he's ****, so he must be.

It's funny isn't it. You would have thought that common sense would have prevailed by now. The golden rule of transfers is ignore other fans when departing players are concerned.

Lowton, Bardsley, Arfield, Westwood, Cork, Jones, Kightly etc etc... have we not learnt our lesson yet?! These guys were all given a level of stick from their previous supporters. It means nothing. Even Shawcross got some grief when he was linked. Some football fans are very fickle and they aren't able to comprehend a player leaving their club so they stick the knife in.

Ranocchia would be a solid signing. Get him in our group, with our togetherness and Dyche's framework and I'm confident he'd do very well.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:01 am

jlup1980 wrote:It's funny isn't it. You would have thought that common sense would have prevailed by now. The golden rule of transfers is ignore other fans when departing players are concerned.

Lowton, Bardsley, Arfield, Westwood, Cork, Jones, Kightly etc etc... have we not learnt our lesson yet?! These guys were all given a level of stick from their previous supporters. It means nothing. Even Shawcross got some grief when he was linked. Some football fans are very fickle and they aren't able to comprehend a player leaving their club so they stick the knife in.

Ranocchia would be a solid signing. Get him in our group, with our togetherness and Dyche's framework and I'm confident he'd do very well.

It's always the same though. Some fans will immediately start to criticise a player the minute they know he could be on his way. You've used some good examples there, particularly Villa pair Lowton and Westwood and more recently Jack Cork on the Swansea message board. All the ones you have mentioned came to Burnley and, apart from those more recently signed, did a really good job for us.

Long Time Lurker · Post by **Long Time Lurker** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:18 am

Ordinarily I would agree with you, our club has a talent for improving players and bringing out the very best in them. This case appears to be a little different. If you check out the thread it isn't just about his recent departure it provides an ongoing account of 360 pages that provide a running commentary of his total time with the club.

If you Google the reports of his match performances, for club and country, they paint an identical picture. A talented technical player, reasonably good in the air, slow, lacks composure, problems with his short passing and prone to making costly errors when under pressure - like his most recent one that earned Hull their relegation. The consensus is that he is inconsistent and can't be depended on over the longer term.

Ignoring the opinion of a group of fans is understandable, but disregarding a body of evidence that stretches back seven years, with collaborating evidence from a wide variety of different sources, is a different matter entirely.

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:33 am

Clearly he's been highly regarded in the past. You don't play for Italy as a centre half if you're a mug. That said, his appearances were a few years back now.

I'm not sure his playing for Inter is an indication of much. His spell there coincided with one of their worst periods in recent history.

His career has clearly been in decline for some time. Dyche may help him rekindle the promise he obviously had, but he's not the replacement for Keane we were hoping for. Also, if he is being brought in the play second fiddle to Tarkowski & Mee, I'm not sure how that helps him recapture his form.

cricketfieldclarets · Post by **cricketfieldclarets** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:36 am

scouseclaret wrote:Whatever they say, a defender who's made 129 appearances for Inter and has 21 caps for the most renowned defence unit in international football can't be a total mug.

For what its worth i agree.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 8:59 am

I can't claim to know very much about Ranocchia's career, but as I understand it he did very well for Hull - one mistake at Palace aside -and was widely regarded as the best signing they made during the course of last season.

And even just going off his CV, it would perhaps be an indication of how far we've come that we're a bit dubious about whether a defender who has played 130 times for Inter Milan over about 4 seasons, and been appointed captain of them once, and who has 21 senior caps for Italy. His career hasn't kicked on, but that's pretty decent pedigree.

claretspice · Post by **claretspice** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:04 am

Probably worth noting that in terms of him having a few "lost years" on his CV, that's probably not a completely dissimilar story to Defour last summer. That signing has to date had mixed results, although his class is undoubted, but I don't recall the same level of doubt being expressed last summer. Indeed, as I remember there was almost universal excitement.

scouseclaret · Post by **scouseclaret** » Fri Aug 18, 2017 12:13 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:It must be a very fair point, SAYING THAT, we all know some muppets who have gained similar appearances in the Premier League and for England whilst we`ve all shaken our collective heads.

Maybe, but the difference is the Italian national team is successful!