Dele Alli

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:18 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:the fact you didnt acknowledge my point about barnes doing the same thing, makes your criticism invalid.

Are you disagreeing with yourself?

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:24 pm

its a myth about refs doing the big clubs a favour, also I simply meant that if its inevitable the so called culture of cheating is so rife, then its imperative we do all we can to sway referees too.

LAM · Post by **LAM** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:27 pm

If this thread was on a rivals board I’m sure we would be taking the juice. It was a penalty.

Alli is a snide though, to be fair.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:30 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:its a myth about refs doing the big clubs a favour, also I simply meant that if its inevitable the so called culture of cheating is so rife, then its imperative we do all we can to sway referees too.

Absolute b0llo0cks and you know it. All the years of Man Utd success supported by refs afraid of upsetting Ferguson - he had influence right across the board. These days Pep; José; Arsene et all all have a similar “influence” over refs because their clubs are “media darlings” and don’t be ignorant of the fact that the Premier League is a media driven business and as such the powers that be want the biggest and most profitable clubs to succeed because then their profits also succeed.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:36 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:Absolute b0llo0cks and you know it. All the years of Man Utd success supported by refs afraid of upsetting Ferguson - he had influence right across the board. These days Pep; José; Arsene et all all have a similar “influence” over refs because their clubs are “media darlings” and don’t be ignorant of the fact that the Premier League is a media driven business and as such the powers that be want the biggest and most profitable clubs to succeed because then their profits also succeed.

crap, if it were so obvious the game was bent to that degree fans would vote with their feet and never attend...and you know it.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:38 pm

Alli looks like one of the Local Shop characters from the League of Gentlemen. Nasty piece of work

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:38 pm

you imagine match officials lose all sense of integrity as soon as they're given top sides to officiate? ridiculous.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:39 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:I usually do, so thanks for the cheery sentiment, merry christmas to you too.

I'm sorry ro heat that. I feel bad now.

I hope you get Scalextric, the Vegas edition, with flashing lights, and crowd noises.

Then Deli Alli comes round and plays on it but his car whips round and never falls off tbe track no matter how hard he pulls tbe trigger.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:42 pm

Rumbletonk wrote:I'm sorry ro heat that. I feel bad now.

I hope you get Scalextric, the Vegas edition, with flashing lights, and crowd noises.

Then Deli Alli comes round and plays on it but his car whips round and never falls off tbe track no matter how hard he pulls tbe trigger.

could happen Rumbletonk, but in the true spirit of the yuletide season, I will let him play with my Scalextric.

Rumbletonk · Post by **Rumbletonk** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:50 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:could happen Rumbletonk, but in the true spirit of the yuletide season, I will let him play with my Scalextric.

You're a better man than me. Merry Xmas

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sat Dec 23, 2017 11:55 pm

merry christmas.

ArmchairDetective · Post by **ArmchairDetective** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:11 am

I initially wrote ‘Dele Alli can suck my big fat f*cking ball’

Now I’ve edited it, but I can’t remenber why. Suck it Dele.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:19 am

ArmchairDetective wrote:I initially wrote ‘Dele Alli can suck my big fat f*cking ball’

Now I’ve edited it, but I can’t remenber why. Suck it Dele.

then you are doomed to a life of inarticulate stupidity.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:21 am

I know that ill not cover myself in glory with this statement, but I harbour a desire for the day when Dele Alli is stretchered from the pitch with a bone sticking out of his shin.

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:24 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I know that ill not cover myself in glory with this statement, but I harbour a desire for the day when Dele Alli is stretchered from the pitch with a bone sticking out of his shin.

Spades will be all over this.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:24 am

Lord Beamish wrote:I know that ill not cover myself in glory with this statement, but I harbour a desire for the day when Dele Alli is stretchered from the pitch with a bone sticking out of his shin.

that is the opinion of a dullard and mentally sick person, never in a million years a sports person. Shame on you.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:29 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:that is the opinion of a dullard and mentally sick person, never in a million years a sports person. Shame on you.

Your opprobrium is manor from heaven for me, AbueCoyote.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:34 am

No it isn't , that assumes you have wit or talent, you possess neither.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:42 am

Wile E Coyote wrote:No it isn't , that assumes you have wit or talent, you possess neither.

Whatever you say, Wile E Ablue.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:45 am

one trick pony, tiresome as ever.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:50 am

The last few posts on this thread read like the three musketeers hacked a few UTC accounts. It's glorious.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:53 am

Spiral wrote:The last few posts on this thread read like the three musketeers hacked a few UTC accounts. It's glorious.

Ha ha, wonderful observation, but sadly there is only one musketeer at large.

Spiral · Post by **Spiral** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:54 am

Ha! You're still doing it! Glorious!

Burnleyareback2 · Post by **Burnleyareback2** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:05 am

I wished we had Kevin Ball or John Deary on the pitch today.....

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:08 am

yes, that would have ensured kane got his tenth goal. perfect.

JohnMcGreal · Post by **JohnMcGreal** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:30 am

I thought he was outstanding for them yesterday. Best player on the pitch with Kane not far behind.

Wile E Coyote · Post by **Wile E Coyote** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:36 am

JohnMcGreal wrote:I thought he was outstanding for them yesterday. Best player on the pitch with Kane not far behind.

who?

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 4:38 am

Lord Beamish wrote:Your opprobrium is manor from heaven for me, AbueCoyote.

Manna (Hebrew: מָן‎) or al-Mann (Arabic: المَنّ‎, Kurdish: gezo‎, Persian: گزانگبین‎), sometimes or archaically spelled mana, is an edible substance which, according to the Bible and the Quran, God provided for the Israelites during their travels in the desert during the forty-year period following the Exodus and prior ...
Don't mention it.

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:08 am

The Enclosure wrote:Manna (Hebrew: מָן‎) or al-Mann (Arabic: المَنّ‎, Kurdish: gezo‎, Persian: گزانگبین‎), sometimes or archaically spelled mana, is an edible substance which, according to the Bible and the Quran, God provided for the Israelites during their travels in the desert during the forty-year period following the Exodus and prior ...
Don't mention it.

I consider myself schooled.

In fairness, I posted it late, after a few drinks, and without the due diligence of google.

TheFamilyCat · Post by **TheFamilyCat** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:26 am

At least we know we can song "you let your country down" to him next season.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:32 am

Really difficult to support an England side with Alli in it - hopefully he'll miss the World Cup for some reason

bobinho · Post by **bobinho** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:50 am

Horrible individual.

Good at football but he has a nasty, nasty streak in him. I’m surprised more teams don’t single him out for “special” attention early in the game as he’s a red card walking.

Easy to dislike.

The Enclosure · Post by **The Enclosure** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:23 pm

I was only trying to save you from the wrath of Madam Spades, Lord Beamish.

SparkyClaret · Post by **SparkyClaret** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:28 pm

martin_p wrote:When is the last time one of our players cheated and we got a favourable, game changing decision.

TinMan Tedd McMinn wasn’t it?

Lord Beamish · Post by **Lord Beamish** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:29 pm

The Enclosure wrote:I was only trying to save you from the wrath of Madam Spades, Lord Beamish.

Such a schoolboy error should rightly be castigated.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:29 pm

Devils_Advocate · Post by **Devils_Advocate** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:49 pm

Absolute top class and both Alli and Kane were on a different level to our boys yesterday

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:03 pm

Probably shows how much better Man City are than anyone else at the moment in that Dele Alli wouldn't get in their first team.

TVC15 · Post by **TVC15** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:07 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:crap, if it were so obvious the game was bent to that degree fans would vote with their feet and never attend...and you know it.

The big teams / big managers "influencing" the referees and the game being "bent" are very different things.

You might be of the opinion that this does not happen....its fine for you to have that opinion. Just as its fine for many fans to have an opinion that referees are influenced by the big clubs.

My opinion and that of many people I know are that the big clubs and big characters like Fergie, Mourinho etc have definitely influenced referees in the past - especially Fergie. He influenced a lot of things in football - even which referees he got for the United games. The football authorities, the media, referees..the lot...were sh-it scared of Ferguson and United. If you crossed him then you were out of his "gang".....like the BBC were for 10 years or a number of referees who if he was not happy with their performance in a United game funnily enough never got a United game again.

This influence extended to what happened in the game also. Look at the statistics for penalties awarded at Old Trafford - even during periods where United were not winning the title and Arsenal or Chelsea were dominant. "Fergie time" is not a myth - it really happened. Take a look at the statistics of average added time at a United home game during his time in charge compared to any other teams. Again this does not make sense statistically for it to happen for such as sustained period especially when you look at this alongside other statistics.

As for fans voting with their feet if they felt the big teams were favoured....thats boll-ocks. Why would they ? What is the point of losing out all together on something you love doing ? They go on despite this not because of it.

As for Dele Alli - i`ll keep my opinion on his short and sweet.

He`s a grade A c-unt.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:05 pm

Murger wrote:

Well, threshhold number 1 is that he plays for one of the "big 6". A dive would have to be very very obvious indeed for one of them to get done - there would have to be absolute TV proof there was no contact, that there was not even close to contact, and even then they would do their very best to assume that the man slipped.

Alli's problem is going to be that at the moment, he is learning that as far as diving goes he is untouchable - he dived twice yesterday, the second one even more blatant than the first, but the ref deliberately failed to spot it - and also that as far a reckless late out-of-control tackles, he is also untouchable - a booking at most, which he will welcome because it means he can't be suspended later. It would be the same with a naughty child - if your child does something wrong and you say "do that again and you will be punished", and they keep on doing the same thing and you carry on saying "do that again and you will be punished", and on and on and on, the child will not stop doing it.

Alli is the same. One of these days he will come across a ref that hasn't read the "Alli must not be sent off" memo, probably in a big game like a vital England match or a European Cup knockout, and he will be sent off and his side will lose. And he literally will not understand what has happened or why, because he has never been taught that bad fouls or diving are punishable offences.

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:13 pm

dsr

Nail
On
Head

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:49 pm

Bang on point dsr.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:10 pm

It will be very difficult to feel any affinity to an England side that includes the likes of Deli Ali

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 9:58 pm

Wile E Coyote wrote:crap, if it were so obvious the game was bent to that degree fans would vote with their feet and never attend...and you know it.

To use your own word Crap.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:04 pm

Murger wrote:

“An actual dive would be a start”

Good

When do we start?

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:37 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:Absolute top class and both Alli and Kane were on a different level to our boys yesterday

Bardsley made Alli look like Ronaldo, is Kevin Long a Spurs fan? I think he must have Harry Kane posters in his bedroom judging by the way he dealt with him, Long was terrified of him.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:39 pm

I think it was a penalty just for the stupidity of Long diving into a tackle inside the penalty area, when you dive into a tackle you don't need to make you ultimately give the inconsistent referees a decision to make. Had Long not of even dived in, we wouldn't be harping on about the irrelevant penalty now still.

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:I think it was a penalty just for the stupidity of Long diving into a tackle inside the penalty area, when you dive into a tackle you don't need to make you ultimately give the inconsistent referees a decision to make. Had Long not of even dived in, we wouldn't be harping on about the irrelevant penalty now still.

Definitely naive from Long

addisclaret · Post by **addisclaret** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 10:58 pm

If that was a "diving in" tackle, I'd love to see you make a dive like that from the 10 metre board, the splat as you hit the tiles before the water would be so satisfying.

Murger · Post by **Murger** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:09 pm

Diving in? Jesus wept. He barely stuck his leg out.