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Re: Nkoudou

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:44 pm

andyh wrote:I assume this is sarcastic given your ratings thread
No I was extreamly wrong regarding my opinion, and most other people saw what a good game he had. People were apparently entertained and happy with yesterday's performance. People leaving yesterday were chatting how pleased they were with the preformance.
Why would you change it if that is the case?

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:03 pm

MACCA wrote:What's Hendick done wrong to get dropped?
He had a good game yesterday. You can't drop someone who did well yesterday, we played very well and were just unlucky.
People walked off the game yesterday happy with the performance, so why are any changes needed?
He had a good game yesterday...............and been shite for the last 10+

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:09 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:He had a good game yesterday...............and been shite for the last 10+
If you're good in your most recent game, that's what matters.

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by Diesel » Sun Jan 21, 2018 7:30 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:He had a good game yesterday...............and been shite for the last 10+
Not one Burnley player has been 'shite' in the last five years, never mind Jeff in his last 10 games.

Wash your mouth out and show some respect to our boys you massive turd.
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Re: Nkoudou

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:05 pm

Willing to bet that we line up at Newcastle with Lennon (assuming he signs) on one wing, JBG on the other and Hendrick playing as the third central midfielder.

NKoudou definitely has something. But he's raw and hes got the most to learn. For now, he's a great option to have off the bench.

But he and Lennon will definitely give us something extra in the final third. Two or three times yesterday we got Arfield and JBG coming off the flank to run directly at or behind the centre backs and we just didn't have the pace of trickery to really commit the last defender and get in behind. With one of Lennon and NKoudou opposite JBG we'll have a lot more penetration in that department.

Ultimately, I'd like to think we view NKoudou as a potential permanent signing and the challenge for him will be to either develop into a better player then either Lennon or JBG.

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:13 pm

We can't win with a perminent transfer with Nkoudou with no deal being in place, as if he pulls up trees the fee goes up or he could go go elsewhere. If he's no good we won't want him.

Loans with no to buy option is only a short term fix IMO

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:16 pm

HiroshimaClaret wrote:Newcastle away, how about...

Pope
Lowton Tarkowski Mee Taylor
Gudmundsson Cork Defour Nkoudou
Arfield
Barnes
I hope it will be
Pope
Lowton Tarks Mee Ward
Lennon Cork Defour Nkoudou
JBG
Wood

doubt it will be though !

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:18 pm

Inside Hendrick is an exceptional player. Remember seeing him in the last Euro tournament thinking wow who is this stand out player

He has had some exceptional games for us too and won us points, plus is he being played in the right position ??. As others have said no one deserves dropping after yesterday

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by claretspice » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:19 pm

MACCA wrote:We can't win with a perminent transfer with Nkoudou with no deal being in place, as if he pulls up trees the fee goes up or he could go go elsewhere. If he's no good we won't want him.

Loans with no to buy option is only a short term fix IMO
Exactly the reasons why selling/loaning clubs rarely agree an up front option to buy.

Best outcome for us us NKoudou gets game time and enjoys his time with us so wants to make his future with us - and you might be right, it might be best for us if he shows promise but doesn't grab too many headlines. But either way, a positive loan spell puts us in pole position if Spurs do decide to get rid.
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Re: Nkoudou

Post by FactualFrank » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:21 pm

MACCA wrote:Loans with no to buy option is only a short term fix IMO
Short term fixes can often help in the long term.

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by MACCA » Sun Jan 21, 2018 8:52 pm

claretspice wrote:Exactly the reasons why selling/loaning clubs rarely agree an up front option to buy.

Best outcome for us us NKoudou gets game time and enjoys his time with us so wants to make his future with us - and you might be right, it might be best for us if he shows promise but doesn't grab too many headlines. But either way, a positive loan spell puts us in pole position if Spurs do decide to get rid.
Absolutely, but as you point out Spurs will hold all the cards, which is what they are good at to be fair. I just hope if he does enjoy it here and is made available it puts us in a strong position. There's nothing wrong with being not quite good enough for Spurs, but I hope we can be in the next clutch of 6 teams below the big 6 what can attract these sorts of players.

What little we've seen of him, and the usual YouTube video he looks extreamly positive and always shows for the ball. Doesn't seem to let his head drop should it not come off, which is good.

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I agree, it could work well for all parties.

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by Diesel » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:08 pm

When we reach 40pts expect us to line up like this:

..........................Heaton....................

...............Mee..............................Tarks......


....................Cork...............Defour........


Lennon...JBG......................................Arfield...Nkfella

.......................Vokes....................Barnes.................

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jan 21, 2018 9:16 pm

Great when he came on but again Sean's waited too long to make changes and why on earth did Nakki Wells get on for Barnes

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Re: Nkoudou

Post by HiroshimaClaret » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:22 am

MACCA wrote:What's Hendick done wrong to get dropped?
He had a good game yesterday. You can't drop someone who did well yesterday, we played very well and were just unlucky.
People walked off the game yesterday happy with the performance, so why are any changes needed?
Presuming that`s tongue-in-cheek. If it`s not it`s bi-polar disorder.

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