ARTICLE: Defour and Tarkowski add to injury problems

CFS · Post by **CFS** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:34 pm

This could present Freddy ulvestad with a massive opportunity I for one hope he can take it.

piston broke · Post by **piston broke** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:36 pm

summitclaret wrote:I was staggered about no new cb before I read that tarks was out. Now tbh i am disgusted. If defour is out long term surely we should be getting that elusive nr 10 and putting Geoff back where he is best.

We'll find out on Wednesday but that is a solution.
Jeff back in his natural position, JBG in the hole and Lennon right side.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:38 pm

Lack of rotation is costing us .

agreenwood · Post by **agreenwood** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:40 pm

piston broke wrote:We'll find out on Wednesday but that is a solution.
Jeff back in his natural position, JBG in the hole and Lennon right side.

I’m always surprised when people suggest this kind of thing. Someone suggested we might play 3-5-2 on a thread the other day.

Dyche has had a lot of success from making the most straightforward changes possible for 5 years now. That’s unlikely to change.

If Defour is injured, Westwood will replace him. Dyche won’t move two players out of the positions he prefers them in to accommodate one injury. It’s not his way.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:44 pm

If the squad had a long weekend off then lennon will have only had a few days training come wednesday can you really see dyche playing him ?

Bordeauxclaret · Post by **Bordeauxclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:46 pm

joey13 wrote:Lack of rotation is costing us .

Interesting point. Early in the season I’d say having a settled side contributed to us getting more points.
But did we push it too far?

jrgbfc · Post by **jrgbfc** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:48 pm

agreenwood wrote:I’m always surprised when people suggest this kind of thing. Someone suggested we might play 3-5-2 on a thread the other day.

Dyche has had a lot of success from making the most straightforward changes possible for 5 years now. That’s unlikely to change.

If Defour is injured, Westwood will replace him. Dyche won’t move two players out of the positions he prefers them in to accommodate one injury. It’s not his way.

Perfect chance to give Hendrick a game in his natural position though. Would be harsh on Westwood, but we desperately need to get some pace/creativity into the side.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:07 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Interesting point. Early in the season I’d say having a settled side contributed to us getting more points.
But did we push it too far?

Maybe , obviously we got a decent haul of points , Dyche said recently he’s still learning, maybe this and subs being brought on too late are two things he can now learn from.

Roosterbooster · Post by **Roosterbooster** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:09 pm

LawsCanalJump wrote:GKN Hendrick Cork Westwood Lennon
JBG

Lennon has to be on the right

I like the idea of JBG as a lone striker with 2 proper wingers though. Let’s test his arial ability...

LawsCanalJump · Post by **LawsCanalJump** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:12 pm

We wouldn't hoof it as much

pushpinpussy · Post by **pushpinpussy** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:15 pm

was always going to happen. signed a bit of a injury prone player to be honest. ings esq

KefkaClaret · Post by **KefkaClaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:19 pm

The players only had 1 day rest between the Huddersfield game and the Liverpool game and we only made one change. 4 of our 5 midfield played the full 90 in both games. Is it a lack of trust in the replacements or lack of quality?

JohnDearyMe · Post by **JohnDearyMe** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:26 pm

Not sure if this is accurate but I've heard from a few people today that Wood is highly unlikely to feature for us again this season. Hopefully it's not the case

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:28 pm

These injuries are making us blood the whole squad ready for an assault on the Premier League title next year

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:39 pm

Sidney1st wrote:Who would you shift out now to make space?
Would you just sign players under a certain age?

Bardsley, Wells, Walters, Anderson and Ulvestads contracts can all go in the shredder

Stayingup · Post by **Stayingup** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:40 pm

Hendrick can now play where he plays best. In midfield.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:and a hell of a lack of ambition in the market to try and replace them.

So we should buy a new player as one gets temporarily injured???

Excellent two signings to help cover Brady.

Last summer was about building the depth of squad, providing viable cover in every position. Taylor covering Ward a prime example.

UTC

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:45 pm

KRBFC wrote:Bardsley, Wells, Walters, Anderson and Ulvestads contracts can all go in the shredder

Yes let's get rid of Bardsley and then we would have no cover for Lowton.Just because you don't like him is no reason to get rid.I personally think he has played well in most of the games he has played.If it was up to you Dyche wouldn't be here.Wells has not had a run in the side so nothing to judge him on and Walters you never liked from the start,CLOGGER I think you called him before a ball was kicked.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:53 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:So we should buy a new player as one gets temporarily injured???

Excellent two signings to help cover Brady.

Last summer was about building the depth of squad, providing viable cover in every position. Taylor covering Ward a prime example.

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So where's the adequate cover for one of the centre halves? or the right back cover? or the capable striker? where was the wide player to cover for Brady in the summer? You say it was about building depth but we haven't really have we? Taylor being the only one good enough to cover out of the players signed as cover.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:54 pm

Jimscho wrote:Yes let's get rid of Bardsley and then we would have no cover for Lowton.Just because you don't like him is no reason to get rid.I personally think he has played well in most of the games he has played.If it was up to you Dyche wouldn't be here.Wells has not had a run in the side so nothing to judge him on and Walters you never liked from the start,CLOGGER I think you called him before a ball was kicked.

How's Bardsley and Walters coped? You're right I never liked the signing of them before they kicked a ball and guess what..... I still don't, now every Burnley fan is seeing why.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 6:58 pm

KRBFC wrote:How's Bardsley and Walters coped? You're right I never liked the signing of them before they kicked a ball and guess what..... I still don't, now every Burnley fan is seeing why.

So you know better than Dyche who sees Bardsley every day in training? Why don't you give him a call and tell him to pick Lowton as you obviously know best.

Raz · Post by **Raz** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:07 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Not sure if this is accurate but I've heard from a few people today that Wood is highly unlikely to feature for us again this season. Hopefully it's not the case

Starting to think this is possible..touch in go made me think initially they were with regard the next game..haha silly idea that one apparently. Now seems to me to be code - injured and out of it, no idea when may return.. it now seems to go...touch and go, progressing, good news they are actually training again..then I guess waiting to they are match fit...

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:12 pm

Spijed wrote:So you know better than Dyche who sees Bardsley every day in training? Why don't you give him a call and tell him to pick Lowton as you obviously know best.

It's not about knowing better than Dyche, I can make my own judgement on players based on what I see. Bardsley has been a liability and cost us goal after goal. What a weird way to look at it, an absolute cop out of an opinion.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:How's Bardsley and Walters coped? You're right I never liked the signing of them before they kicked a ball and guess what..... I still don't, now every Burnley fan is seeing why.

Think Bardsley has coped very well.Walters has been Unfortuneate that he has had a bad injury so how can you or any other Burnley supporter judge.Pep at City,you know the one that you drool over,signed a fullback for over £40 million who also got a bad injury was that a bad signing?You don't know and I don't know as we have not seen him play,so how can you judge Walters and how can the Burnley fans see why as you put it.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:23 pm

Jimscho wrote:Think Bardsley has coped very well.Walters has been Unfortuneate that he has had a bad injury so how can you or any other Burnley supporter judge.Pep at City,you know the one that you drool over,signed a fullback for over £40 million who also got a bad injury was that a bad signing?You don't know and I don't know as we have not seen him play,so how can you judge Walters and how can the Burnley fans see why as you put it.

I have seen Mendy play for City, he was excellent before his injury and a key player. Walters couldn't even get in the side when he was fit yet he's suddenly a big miss when he's injured.

No Ney Never · Post by **No Ney Never** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:26 pm

Pope
Bardsley, Long, Mee, Taylor
JBG, Westwood, Cork, GKN
Hendrick,
Barnes.

A decent enough starting 11 to take on Newcastle.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:So we should buy a new player as one gets temporarily injured???

Excellent two signings to help cover Brady.

Last summer was about building the depth of squad, providing viable cover in every position. Taylor covering Ward a prime example.

UTC

No, we should be looking at a couple of upgrades, particularly while we are an attractive prospect for incoming players.

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:44 pm

KRBFC wrote:I have seen Mendy play for City, he was excellent before his injury and a key player. Walters couldn't even get in the side when he was fit yet he's suddenly a big miss when he's injured.

I wasn't saying Mendy is a bad player,he has to be good for £52 million,but like him Walters was unfortuneate to get injured so didn't get the chance to play.Dyche will not rush a player back or change his team just to accommodate a returning player.It might turn out that he was a poor signing but I don't judge until I have seen them play a number of games for us.You wrote him off before the season started.Stoke fans were sorry to see him go.

KRBFC · Post by **KRBFC** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:48 pm

Jimscho wrote:I wasn't saying Mendy is a bad player,he has to be good for £52 million,but like him Walters was unfortuneate to get injured so didn't get the chance to play.Dyche will not rush a player back or change his team just to accommodate a returning player.It might turn out that he was a poor signing but I don't judge until I have seen them play a number of games for us.You wrote him off before the season started.Stoke fans were sorry to see him go.

It's funny how you say I'm the supposed negative one while questioning my ''over expectation'', how does that work? I want Dyche gone but I believe he could guide us to 7th, how does that make sense? All this while you said 12th is excellent, who's really the negative one...

Jimscho · Post by **Jimscho** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 8:17 pm

KRBFC wrote:It's funny how you say I'm the supposed negative one while questioning my ''over expectation'', how does that work? I want Dyche gone but I believe he could guide us to 7th, how does that make sense? All this while you said 12th is excellent, who's really the negative one...

On what post have I used the word negative.What is negative about finishing 12th?I did not say I wanted us to finish 12th.I would like us to finish top 6 but we won't.Its just that I am a realist and don't lose sleep over a football match or where we are going to finish.I enjoy watching us play whether we are in the Premier or where we are.Been watching for 60 years,some good some bad,not negative just happy to be a Claret and very happy where we are at now.I have very bad eyesight but go on to every home match with 3 grandchildren.I can't make out individual players very well and depending on what colour the opposition are playing sometimes I can't distinguish between the teams.I love what is happening at the moment and don't like to miss a game but don't ever call me negative.I don't do player ratings as I don't see clearly enough to distinguish between the players.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:02 pm

I think I'll be on my own here and ridiculed as being paranoid..... but the Tarks slight groin injury?? Where has that come from? I'm hoping there has not been contact made for him, leading to him being unavailable for deadline day match.
Please fire away....

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:10 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:I think I'll be on my own here and ridiculed as being paranoid..... but the Tarks slight groin injury?? Where has that come from? I'm hoping there has not been contact made for him, leading to him being unavailable for deadline day match.
Please fire away....

Alternately you could surmise that our report of this injury is to deter suitors.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:14 pm

boatshed bill wrote:Alternately you could surmise that our report of this injury is to deter suitors.

Absolutely could be.

We simply couldn't afford to sell him now anyway. Surely not, but with Anderson called back also...but bid in for Worrall apparently also. Hope not.

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:14 pm

Or actually man landed on the moon and Tarky signed a new contract recently and is actually injured.

The sh1te on this board today.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:15 pm

Just read the above I'll now get slated for poor construction of the post.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:16 pm

Bin Ont Turf wrote:Or actually man landed on the moon and Tarky signed a new contract recently and is actually injured.

The sh1te on this board today.

Nevada...not the Moon.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:16 pm

What's landing on the moon got to do with Tarks groin?

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:20 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:What's landing on the moon got to do with Tarks groin?

Your stupid negative (I'll put a question mark at the end) conspiracy.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:26 pm

Trust me bot I am not negative at all. Never less than 3/4 full. It was only a thought.

HiroshimaClaret · Post by **HiroshimaClaret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:30 pm

agreenwood wrote:I’m always surprised when people suggest this kind of thing. Someone suggested we might play 3-5-2 on a thread the other day.

Dyche has had a lot of success from making the most straightforward changes possible for 5 years now. That’s unlikely to change.

If Defour is injured, Westwood will replace him. Dyche won’t move two players out of the positions he prefers them in to accommodate one injury. It’s not his way.

`out of the positions he (Dyche) prefers them in. LIKE IT!!!! Hendrick, a lot of people believe, is already out of position so no problem with putting him back in his more natural one. It`s time for my Bayern Munich (4-3-2-1) call...

Pope
Lowton Long Mee Taylor
Cork Hendrick Westwood
Gudmundsson Nkoudou
Barnes

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:48 pm

JohnDearyMe wrote:Not sure if this is accurate but I've heard from a few people today that Wood is highly unlikely to feature for us again this season. Hopefully it's not the case

IF that is the case then we are a Barnes injury away from an absolute disaster

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:06 am

Defour must get better quick!

Hipper · Post by **Hipper** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:51 am

JimmyMac'sMate wrote:Skipton claret do you actually go to the games just checking with that formation you have only got 4 players we need 11 utc

I thought it was two and we'd signed a couple of young black kids.

UpTheBeehole · Post by **UpTheBeehole** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:31 am

Hipper wrote:I thought it was two and we'd signed a couple of young black kids.

?

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:18 am

Rumour that defour will be out for rest of the season
. Marney unlikely to play apart this season and tarkowski out for a couple of weeks maybe more .

Sidney1st · Post by **Sidney1st** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:23 am

Hipper wrote:I thought it was two and we'd signed a couple of young black kids.

Lennon isn't young.

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:23 am

Vegas Claret wrote:IF that is the case then we are a Barnes injury away from an absolute disaster

We've done fine with Vokes up front on his own though, someone who got 10 goals last season.

Btw, what do you define as a disaster? Relegation this season?

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:25 am

Reecey1987 wrote:Rumour that defour will be out for rest of the season

Possibly the biggest loss we could have had. Our players are dropping like flies.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:26 am

summitclaret wrote:I was staggered about no new cb before I read that tarks was out. Now tbh i am disgusted.

Eighth in the Premier League, a player injured and no rushed panic signing in January leaves fan disgusted. I'm staggered too.

Reecey1987 · Post by **Reecey1987** » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:32 am

FactualFrank wrote:Possibly the biggest loss we could have had. Our players are dropping like flies.

I know lets just hope we have a plan B incase we get any more injuries