Liverpool v Spurs

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:21 pm

Another peno!!

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:21 pm

That Lino must have a bet on

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IndigoLake » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:21 pm

This is absolutely disgusting. Another blatant dive from Spurs. They need docking points for this.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Sidney1st » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:21 pm

Contact but Lamella looks like he'd had his leg chopped off.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Darthlaw » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:21 pm

£75m for Van Dijk or £600k for Ben Mee...
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:22 pm

Injustice!

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by 4:20 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:23 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:Nope. Keeper didn't touch Kane, he pulled his arms back. Kane made sure he caught the Keeper!
This calls for a slomo gif! I've only seen the one replay mind, willing to change my mind!
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:23 pm

Spurs are dirty cheats who get away with it because they have England's golden boys.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Sidney1st » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:23 pm

Darthlaw wrote:£75m for Van Dijk or £600k for Ben Mee...
I'll go with option C please Darth, £40 million for Mangala :lol:
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:24 pm

Spurs are a disgrace to British football.

Every player looking to fall at the drop of a hat. A pile of bile.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:25 pm

Good game. Spurs were better team in second half. Plenty for pundits to talk about.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IndigoLake » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:26 pm

If Burnley FC didn't exist, I'd probably give up football. I'm sick of the blatant cheating and efforts to deceive referees and officials. Players who do so aren't men in my eyes. They lack integrity, sportsmanship and all the qualities that make up professionals. Some shocking behaviour from Tottenham and I hope they face action. Unfortunately, the sport is way behind where it should be in terms of sorting out the issues that actually matter.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:27 pm

Dick was unlucky with the 2nd pen. I don't think he even saw lemon. Pity he didnt kick him harder!
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:27 pm

"Premier League at it's best" says Sky summariser.

I think not. Just an advert for cheating.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:28 pm

Wrong penalty decision - missed

Correct penalty decision - scored.

What's the problem?
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by ClaretAndJew » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm

That was a really good game to be fair.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:29 pm

Decent game for the neutral.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:30 pm

What an astonishing finish to the game - brilliant entertainment
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:30 pm

Kane needs banning for that dive

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Rumbletonk » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:30 pm

Great game other than having to listen to Jim Beglin.

Spurs really are a rancid lot. 1st pen dive and offside, 2nd was just a joke. Utterly terrible from the lino desperate to get involved

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by KefkaClaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:30 pm

I'd be amazed if Kane got a ban

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:31 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What an astonishing finish to the game - brilliant entertainment
And what woild footie be without the debating!

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:33 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:And what woild footie be without the debating!
Honest? Fair?

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by chorleyhere » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:33 pm

So if it was a definite penalty why did Moss say no penalty - Lino couldn't be sure about the first but still went along with Moss then was absolutely sure from side on view that 2nd one was ? He couldn't see it absolutely sure from the side view !!!
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:33 pm

bob-the-scutter wrote:And what woild footie be without the debating!
Absolutely - dives, pens, offsides - loads to debate just from the last few minutes.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Noblelight » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:33 pm

Spurs have had 2 more pens in 10 minutes than we've had in a season :lol: :lol:

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by JimmyRobbo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:34 pm

Diesel wrote:Wrong penalty decision - missed
Correct penalty decision - scored.
What's the problem?
For me, the problem is that current rules and systems are set up to reward acting, diving, feigning injury which means, effectively, it's set up to favour bigger clubs.

Ali should be punished retrospectively, whether given a yellow or not.
The offside for the penalty should be offside whether the defender touches it or not. Surely, the attacker has gained an advantage by being in an offside position. A defender cannot rely on liners to make the correct call.

The game is imploding because the money people have got involved and created a situation where money will win.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:35 pm

KefkaClaret wrote:I'd be amazed if Kane got a ban
He's the England Captain, zero chance

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:36 pm

A dive in the area should be a straight red and 3 game ban. The only way to stop it.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by bob-the-scutter » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:Honest? Fair?
Boring!

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by IanMcL » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:38 pm

Cheating isn't entertainment.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:40 pm

IanMcL wrote:Cheating isn't entertainment.
well said
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by welsbyswife » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:46 pm

ClaretTony wrote:What an astonishing finish to the game - brilliant entertainment
Great entertainment that would have been killed by VAR in my view. It might help get the right decision (although i'm not even convinced about that) but all the stopping and starting would have completely altered the flow at the end of that game.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by 4:20 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:51 pm

I thought I knew what offside was, apparently not.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:51 pm

Diesel wrote:Wrong penalty decision - missed

Correct penalty decision - scored.

What's the problem?
How about the possibility that the first (wrongly awarded) penalty affects the rest of the game.
The cheating is ruining the game, and everyone knows it.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:52 pm

Both penalty decisions were correct.

Great game and the officials actually got the big decisions right.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by chorleyhere » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:59 pm

Who on earth was Ali passing to when Kane WAS in an offside position ? It was Kane therefore the Lino should be putting up his flag - he wasn't sure that a Liverpool player had touched it - surely he should have signalled offside and had the ref over-rule it not the other way round? Too many times the lino hasn't followed the correct procedure when Burnley have had goal/penalty decisions ?

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by beddie » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:00 pm

Thought the liner that gave the pens was superb.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:02 pm

Gallagher saying Kane was onside as Lovern went to play the ball, but he’s only going to play the ball because Kane is behind him surely and was offside before?
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by 4:20 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:08 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Gallagher saying Kane was onside as Lovern went to play the ball, but he’s only going to play the ball because Kane is behind him surely and was offside before?
This is what I don't get about it and its doing my head in.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:11 pm

When the last Tottenham player touched the ball (the pass) Kane was offside, surely that's it?

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:17 pm

Anyway cracking game, great point against City yesterday and my boy was 'man of the match' for his team this morning.

******* love the footy me.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by joey13 » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:19 pm

Both definitely pens , I think some on here no absolutely nothing about football.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:22 pm

Lowbankclaret wrote:Both penalty decisions were correct.

Great game and the officials actually got the big decisions right.
https://www.specsavers.com/

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:23 pm

joey13 wrote:Both definitely pens , I think some on here no absolutely nothing about football.
Ironically it's 'know'.
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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by jdrobbo » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:32 pm

I'm clearly with the minority here, but for me Kane is onside for the first. He's offside when the ball is played, but Lovren deliberately plays the ball. Regardless of whether Kane is tight to him or thirty yards offside, that play from Lovren was a choice. The fact that he touched it renders Kane active, in an onside position in a new phase of play. If Lovren knew Kane was offside, he should've just let the ball run.


FA Rule 11...

"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save by any opponent) is not considered to have gained an advantage."

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Shore claret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:36 pm

Bordeauxclaret wrote:Gallagher saying Kane was onside as Lovern went to play the ball, but he’s only going to play the ball because Kane is behind him surely and was offside before?
Absolutely spot on Kane being behind lovren affects what he does, if he wasn't there he would just let the ball run through to the goalkeeper.
Modern football is killing the art of defending, how on earth are you supposed to teach young players these rules. They are baffling.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Diesel » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:36 pm

How do you know what Lovren 'knew'.

Offside, for me.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Bordeauxclaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:43 pm

It would take a brave defender to leave the ball in that situation because he “thought” he was offside.

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Re: Liverpool v Spurs

Post by Lowbankclaret » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:47 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:https://www.specsavers.com/
Sorry VEgas,
Because the Liverpool player played the ball he was onside. I thought he was offside till Gallerger cleared it up

So not specsavers, it’s the rules

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