Nkoudou

[Murger]

Moan Moan Moan....all you ever do is MOAN!

Maybe Swansea set up right to nullify us?........Maybe they needed it more?
Maybe we just weren't at our best?.....Things not dropping just right!
MAYBE we are still experimenting with our forced [through injuries] new line up?
Maybe no ones to BLAME?.......Ever thought of that?
We are the smallest team in the league and we're 7th....get a grip you bunch of Wankers!

Takes 1 to know 1 dickhead.

[JohnMcGreal]

Laughing is the best I could do at the time, that's how funny it was.

We'll play ball now though.............. who would you have taken off at half time to make way for Georgey boy?

Lennon. As good as he was against City last weekend, he looked completely lost for the most part yesterday. I'd have had no complaints if he was replaced by N'Koudou at half time.

[KRBFC]

Keane on loan - he'd just played about 10 games on the bounce prior to signing him permanently. Why didn't you mention Kightly?

For the same reason I didn't mention Kacaniklic and Bamford.... Keane wasn't first choice when we had him on loan.

[ClaretTony]

For the same reason I didn't mention Kacaniklic and Bamford.... Keane wasn't first choice when we had him on loan.

Keane got himself in the team and was first choice for two months before we signed him permanently

[KRBFC]

Keane got himself in the team and was first choice for two months before we signed him permanently

did Duff/Shackell get injured or pick up a suspension?

[KRBFC]

Thank goodness Flanagan didn't get more game time and Chalobah is a legend in his own lunchtime.

Chalobah went back to Chelsea and broke into the team but couldn't get into the relegated Burnley team. Doesn't make sense, Chalobah himself turned down a new contract at Chelsea in the summer to leave for Watford, started brilliantly got an England call up and I believe he's been injured since. He was good enough for us, just wasn't ever given a real chance.

[ClaretTony]

Chalobah went back to Chelsea and broke into the team but couldn't get into the relegated Burnley team. Doesn't make sense, Chalobah himself turned down a new contract at Chelsea in the summer to leave for Watford, started brilliantly got an England call up and I believe he's been injured since. He was good enough for us, just wasn't ever given a real chance.

He made his Chelsea debut almost two years after us so he hardly went back and broke into the team. He went back, dropped down a division and went to Reading on loan, then spent a flop season in Italy, then got a few games for Chelsea and then moved to Watford.

And, in any case, I didn't query Chalobah, I challenged your incorrect information on Keane.

[KRBFC]

He made his Chelsea debut almost two years after us so he hardly went back and broke into the team. He went back, dropped down a division and went to Reading on loan, then spent a flop season in Italy, then got a few games for Chelsea and then moved to Watford.

And, in any case, I didn't query Chalobah, I challenged your incorrect information on Keane.

On 18/04/15 we played away at Everton and lost 1-0. Michael Keane was on the bench, the season ended on the 16/05/15.


The following game at home to Leicester, Keane was again, on the bench.

The following game away at West Ham, Keane was on the bench again, Duff got sent off.

The following game we were relegated at Hull, again, Keane was on the bench.

The final game of the season at home to Stoke, Keane was again on the bench.


KEANE STARTED 0 TIMES IN THE LAST 9 GAMES OF THE 14/15 SEASON.


So your information about Keane being first choice for 2 months at the end of the season is in fact incorrect information.

[dermotdermot]

I honestly can’t remember Kacaniklic at all. I’ve googled him and see that he made six appearances in 2013, but I simply can’t remember him.

[ClaretTony]

On 18/04/15 we played away at Everton and lost 1-0. Michael Keane was on the bench, the season ended on the 16/05/15.


The following game at home to Leicester, Keane was again, on the bench.

The following game away at West Ham, Keane was on the bench again, Duff got sent off.

The following game we were relegated at Hull, again, Keane was on the bench.

The final game of the season at home to Stoke, Keane was again on the bench.


KEANE STARTED 0 TIMES IN THE LAST 9 GAMES OF THE 14/15 SEASON.


So your information about Keane being first choice for 2 months at the end of the season is in fact incorrect information.

I said he was in the team in the last two months he was on loan. Those months were November and December with him signing permanently in January. Seems you don't even know when he was on loan and when he signed permanent. To be honest, I'm not surprised.

Keane started and played the full ninety minutes in each of the last eight games when he was on loan.

[KRBFC]

I said he was in the team in the last two months he was on loan. Those months were November and December with him signing permanently in January. Seems you don't even know when he was on loan and when he signed permanent. To be honest, I'm not surprised.

Keane started and played the full ninety minutes in each of the last eight games when he was on loan.

Duff wasn't even in the squad for those games, which to me suggest Keane wasn't first choice, he was filling in for an injured Duff, once Duff returned, Keane was back on the bench for the rest of the season.

[boatshed bill]

My impression of Nkoudou from his brief appearances to date is that he's tremendously talented whrn carrying the ball, but for a host of reasons- composure, awareness and maturity for 3 - he's less talented when it comes to linking with teammates and matching his abilities to end product. That will come with time but it may well not be there yet.

That isn't to say he has nothing to offer. He's a really valuable option to have against a team who are defending narrow and in zones and against whom we need to commit defenders and pin them back. Probably more often than not when we're behind.

But he's no finished article. We must be realistic about what he offers. Given he's effectively an inferior version of Lennon, on a day 2hen Lennon has been neutralized, its a stretch to imagine Nkoudou would have been more effective.

If Lennon has been our greatest threat yesterday I'd understand this clamour for Nkoudou to have got longer, but given that's not the case it strikes me that it's more about him being new, exciting and unknown - people aren't as familiar with his limits as they are with the likes of Arfield.

Claretspice in "young player lacks maturity" shocker.

That's why he's with us. Give him a game or two, apparently we are in no danger of relegation.
And by the same token I'd be giving Aiden O'Neil some game time.