Coyle gone at Ross County

[AndrewJB]

Do you think he'll ever come back to do the half time draw?

[ontario claret]

Well, that is a good point, box_of_frogs.

[ontario claret]

Maybe he'll come back for the half time hung, drawn and quartering, with him as the star attraction.

[HiroshimaClaret]

All rightful joking aside, what the hell has happened to this chap???? When we won promotion he gelled together a great team which was pleasing on the eye, with like all teams, a few weaknesses. This, however, is a complete and utter meltdown! Was his tenure with us a complete fluke? Is something bigger at play here? Does he have huge personal issues?

[tiger76]

Graham Alexander played a huge part in the cup runs and the play-off success on and off the pitch has role was very understated.
Coyle's problem was that after our initial momentum at home we were totally outclassed some of those away results were shambolic.
Sean has his faults but we would never capitulate like we did at West Ham and many other away games that Premier season.
Coyle can't organise a defence to save his life if you are having to score 2/3 goals a game just to get a point the outcome is obvious.

[Jel]

Graham Alexander played a huge part in the cup runs and the play-off success on and off the pitch has role was very understated.
Coyle's problem was that after our initial momentum at home we were totally outclassed some of those away results were shambolic.
Sean has his faults but we would never capitulate like we did at West Ham and many other away games that Premier season.
Coyle can't organise a defence to save his life if you are having to score 2/3 goals a game just to get a point the outcome is obvious.

I've always said that it was the players that did it themselves. Especially Alexander and Caldwell.

[Bin Ont Turf]

I've always said that it was the players that did it themselves. Especially Alexander and Caldwell.

And Blake, Elliot and McCann.

Even though we got into the Play Offs on the last day you can't deny that Coyle brought a bit of excitement, even though he's full of sh1t.

He did get a bit lucky (the amount of brilliant goals were unbelievable) but there was also a bit of design to it.

He will go down as one of the biggest tw@ts who gave us one of the best seasons.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

He's off to the USL just you watch

[Hipper]

Coyle intermediate boss with Sol Campbell as assistant to take over. A dream team surely.

[Espia]

Didn't he cite "Family being back in England" as a cause of his failure after he "resigned" (got sacked) as Houston manager ? So, why repeat the error.

[Claret&Green]

Apart from a small increase at Houston compared to Wigan every post he's held has resulted in a lower win % than the previous job. At Ross he's had just 18% win ratio

[CnBtruntru]

I feel for him..............................

[KRBFC]

Good chap, surprised he's found it tough, I think he's a one man club he just didn't realise it until he left. A real shame at the time we didn't match his ambition, Holden was a fantastic player for Bolton, would've keep us up no doubt about it. Coyle will go down as a real Burnley legend regardless of what anybody on here says, we'll never see football like it again. I don't see anybody claiming Dyche is ''god'' or wearing a Dyche mask which is odd given the success Dyche has had, Coyle was simply special.

[joey13]

He’ll be going toe to toe with the DHSS

[Sidney1st]

Holden played 2 games for Bolton in that half season....
No chance he would've kept us up that season.
He then made 26 appearances the next season before the injuries started.

Wilshere was the real difference to Bolton.

[KRBFC]

Graham Alexander played a huge part in the cup runs and the play-off success on and off the pitch has role was very understated.
Coyle's problem was that after our initial momentum at home we were totally outclassed some of those away results were shambolic.
Sean has his faults but we would never capitulate like we did at West Ham and many other away games that Premier season.
Coyle can't organise a defence to save his life if you are having to score 2/3 goals a game just to get a point the outcome is obvious.

Coyle didn't have an England international goalkeeper or an England central defender to select, nor did he have a midfield worth £40M infront of the defence. Dyche struggled for 2 full seasons away from home to get it right, Coyle had 4 months. We capitulated many away games under Dyche (Southampton, WBA, Leicester to name a few)

[cricketfieldclarets]

I feel sorry for him now....we had a good ride.he will regret how he did things I'm sure.

I actually do. Never thought I would. A lesson to us all.

[cricketfieldclarets]

You would like to think so, beddie, but maybe, with all the departures and pay offs from
his various clubs since us, he's likely earned much more than he would had he stayed.

Cos that seems to be all he's interested in.

I am not sure he would. Had he stayed he would have had a significant bonus and probably been offered a contract to be our highest paid manager ever. And could have commanded far more in the longer term.

[BurningBeard]

Coyle didn't have an England international goalkeeper or an England central defender to select, nor did he have a midfield worth £40M infront of the defence. Dyche struggled for 2 full seasons away from home to get it right, Coyle had 4 months. We capitulated many away games under Dyche (Southampton, WBA, Leicester to name a few)

Selective revisionism.

[Stalbansclaret]

KRBFC, leaving aside the fact that you are inclined to post the "Devll's advocate" view on everything if you seriously think Owen Coyle is as good at organising a football team as Sean Dyche is then you do not understand the game. Dyche also coached those players to the level you refer to.

[cricketfieldclarets]

We should be able to finally look back on that 18 month period with the fondness we did at the time. A great period. Just a shame how it all ended.

[KRBFC]

KRBFC, leaving aside the fact that you are inclined to post the "Devll's advocate" view on everything if you seriously think Owen Coyle is as good at organising a football team as Sean Dyche is then you do not understand the game. Dyche also coached those players to the level you refer to.

I'm not posting the ''devils advocate view'' to be an argumentative clown, it's no secret I like Coyle. I never once said Coyle could organise a team like Dyche, my point was to criticise Coyle for the bad away performances is a bit rich when Dyche took 2 full seasons to figure it out with a much bigger budget. Both have brought success to the club I support, both have pros and cons. For Dyche's defensive organisation he will never produce the fluid spectacular free flowing football we saw under Coyle. Both are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of balance, Dyche likes to defend, Coyle liked to attack. Coyle team would score more, Dyche would concede less. My argument is, what could have Coyle achieved here if we were financially able to give him a Dyche budget at the time.

[ElectroClaret]

Just wish he'd stayed at Deadwood to finish the job.

[AndrewJB]

There is something very karmic about how our fortunes have diverged since he left. He did have a bit more success in his first full season with Bolton, but after that it just went to pot.

I was angry at the way he left us, but I don't feel any ill will now. Life is too short, and karma has been too sweet.

[Godalmingclaret]

Coyle will never be a Burnley legend because of the way he left. Had he stayed and even if we had gone down, which I think we would have done, and even if the promotion success was not repeated he would have retained legendary status with the club and fans. He would be welcomed back to the club anytime and greeted with rousing applause.

He was the man who brought top tier football back to Burnley.

However the way he left revealed his true character. A flawed skill set is forgivable but flawed character far less so.

To KRBFC's point. It does not matter how good the honeymoon was, when your wife runs off with your best mate it rather sours the relationship.

Also Burnley is a totally different animal now. Back then it was pluckly little Burnley daring to take on the big boys. Today's Burnley is well run, well managed club slowly establishing itself as a sustainable Premier League club. It is never going to be just as exciting. Working for a successful global company is not as exciting as working for a small start up but small starts up are all aspiring to turn into global businesses.

[AndrewJB]

I'm not posting the ''devils advocate view'' to be an argumentative clown, it's no secret I like Coyle. I never once said Coyle could organise a team like Dyche, my point was to criticise Coyle for the bad away performances is a bit rich when Dyche took 2 full seasons to figure it out with a much bigger budget. Both have brought success to the club I support, both have pros and cons. For Dyche's defensive organisation he will never produce the fluid spectacular free flowing football we saw under Coyle. Both are at opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of balance, Dyche likes to defend, Coyle liked to attack. Coyle team would score more, Dyche would concede less. My argument is, what could have Coyle achieved here if we were financially able to give him a Dyche budget at the time.

I'm inclined to think Coyle got to the bottom of his bag of tricks when with us. The team that took us up to the Premiership in 2009 was not a bad side when compared with other Championship clubs. Granted he got a lot more out of them than Cotterill did, so he provided some sort of spark, but I think Dyche's first full season was more incredible as an achievement.

Coyle's buys were not as good as Dyche's, and it's only in the last two seasons Dyche has been given significant money to spend (you could say Dyche has earned the right to spend that money). I think looking at them side by side, Coyle was willing to throw the dice and take a chance - which when it came off looked spectacular - but then led to shaky foundations; whereas Dyche is more risk averse, but the foundations he builds up from are far more solid. This is just an academic exercise though, and I'm sure there are a million other just as valid opinions.

Looking back perhaps Coyle would have been better off moving on to Celtic after the play-off final? I don't think the fans would have felt any sort of betrayal seeing a manager leave to manage his favourite team.

[jtv]

A real shame at the time we didn't match his ambition, Holden was a fantastic player for Bolton,

Who said that we didn't match his ambition? Coyle himself? And Holden was practically a Burnley player as he was at the MK Dons match (Coyle's last) so that is at least 1 point that disproves the we didn't match his ambition myth.

[andyh]

I think whe manner of Coyles departure and our reaction was what has done for him. He painted himself as such a clean living bloke who believed in old fashioned values. However he showed that was not true and we never let the world forget it. He looked like a poor second hand car salesmen. No one trusted him. So no one really bought into his “you are the greatest” ever again.

[HatfieldClaret]

We should be able to finally look back on that 18 month period with the fondness we did at the time. A great period. Just a shame how it all ended.

Yep, just like real life when you get dumped for someone else and then all the ex's relationships after that go tits up. And e then think, "There for the grace of god...."

Looks like we dodged one there, unwittingly as it may be.