Heroin used to be prescribed by doctors to addicts, and as a result it wasn’t viable to import and sell it illegally. At the time there were about 500 registered addicts, and they didn’t steal because they didn’t have to. As soon as we we criminalised it, the number of addicts rose to the high tens of thousands, and because it was expensive (to factor in the risks involved with smuggling it) people began to steal and found themselves unable to work because they couldn’t earn enough, and because it was supplied by people concerned only with profit the quality dropped and people died, and gang wars were fought. It’s as plain as day the way we used to manage heroin addiction was far more sensible than trying to fight it.thelaughingclaret wrote:If you want to know what drugs do to a place just visit Manchester, the ‘war on drugs’ has certainly been lost there, it gets worse week by week. If you think that legalising all drugs and selling them in every corner shop will decrease the number of drug users then you’re really are deluded. If you think that drug uses are only hurting themselves then you are very wrong. Do you think seriously think children growing up with parents addicted to crack and or heroin is good for them? And if people are seriously comparing a drug addiction, such as being addicted to heroin, to eating pizza then please, please stop this planet because I want to get off!
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And yet people drink. Alcohol is more dangerous than any other drug in the world.thelaughingclaret wrote:If you want to know what drugs do to a place just visit Manchester, the ‘war on drugs’ has certainly been lost there, it gets worse week by week. If you think that legalising all drugs and selling them in every corner shop will decrease the number of drug users then you’re really are deluded. If you think that drug uses are only hurting themselves then you are very wrong. Do you think seriously think children growing up with parents addicted to crack and or heroin is good for them? And if people are seriously comparing a drug addiction, such as being addicted to heroin, to eating pizza then please, please stop this planet because I want to get off!
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Smoking's still sh*t.
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Good point - I think I'll stop drinking ten pints a week and inject heroin insteadSpijed wrote:And yet people drink. Alcohol is more dangerous than any other drug in the world.

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Some do , and some don’tSouth West Claret. wrote:I know they do.
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No not the same as coffee , it can be and is a dangerous drugKRBFC wrote:Same as coffee then, pizza is terrible for you to, should we ban that? For me, it's silly we try and control people, if a junkie wants to kill himself on heroin, allow him to do so but make him buy it legally so the economy benefits and not the grimey drug dealers selling it illegally.
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You said ''Cannabis raises blood pressure which can cause heart problem'' So yes, the same as coffee.joey13 wrote:No not the same as coffee , it can be and is a dangerous drug
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joey13 wrote:Some do , and some don’t
The vast majority do if any don’t then they won’t be practicing for very long.
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It doesn't mean that you smoke a joint. If you have problems with health there are a lot of cannabis oils of different strains, like charlotte's web. It can be used in food and treat your medical issues.ColonelCool wrote:I think somebody needs to swallow a chill pill. Or smoke a joint.
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You would be surprisedSouth West Claret. wrote:The vast majority do if any don’t then they won’t be practicing for very long.
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joey13 wrote:You would be surprised
Rarely am I surprised.
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Kids everywhere having easy access to cannabis, something needs to be done drug dealers never had it so easy you only have to see the cars driving around Nelson, so it's either make it class A and more stringent penalties or legalise it and make tax on sales which can be channelled to target drug dealers
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Ok dismiss someone’s personal experience coz you know better , well done !South West Claret. wrote:Rarely am I surprised.
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How can I dismiss your personal experience if I don’t know about it...don’t be silly. Anyway it’s not about your PE.joey13 wrote:Ok dismiss someone’s personal experience coz you know better , well done !
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Alcohol is a danger to society due to its availability and real time price. Because it is a legal drug we have the ability to ensure that a 40% proof Scotch is just that not 30% or 75% or the Lord only knows strength. IMO the case for legalisation of drug use is strong as again IMO the war is lost. We need to make the availability of alcohol less by re-licensing when it can be sold and one would ensure that whatever is said on the tin was in the tin too in relation to substance use. That way one would reduce deaths from drug overdose.
As for pleas to stop a Nanny state- I am in favour of that state as I am in favour of not penalising people too much for being ill-so if posters feel that a person should be free to abuse their bodies the way they want, I should also be free to spend my money the way I want which would be not to fund health care for the reckless and feckless as we do presently. Of course defining what is reckless and feckless is also an area for a big debate after which most would find it would not be possible to define.
As for pleas to stop a Nanny state- I am in favour of that state as I am in favour of not penalising people too much for being ill-so if posters feel that a person should be free to abuse their bodies the way they want, I should also be free to spend my money the way I want which would be not to fund health care for the reckless and feckless as we do presently. Of course defining what is reckless and feckless is also an area for a big debate after which most would find it would not be possible to define.