England v Panama

Greenmile · Post by **Greenmile** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:55 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Loftus-Cheek over Wilshire. Dumb decision. This will end in tears. Will Southgate resign immediately or will he stay and subject us to more misery in two years time?

I realise it’s only Panama but

Blackrod · Post by **Blackrod** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:57 pm

Is demot dermot hiding ?

ElectroClaret · Post by **ElectroClaret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 1:58 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Oh yeah?

Yeah.

Colburn_Claret · Post by **Colburn_Claret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:00 pm

They just look so fresh and happy to be there, unlike the look of fear in the eyes of previous teams. It is only Panama, but even so confidence accounts for so much in football, and at the moment we look like we can get better and better. And I never thought I would be saying that.

If it's the same after an hour I'd try a few changes, just to keep the options fit, especially Danny Rose, because Ash Young just looks weak as a left back.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:01 pm

dpinsussex wrote:Clenched fist. That was deliberate into Maguires face. Should have been red

That is a clear and obvious error and when VAR should be used. If you jump for the ball your hand is never clenched. Clenching is a deliberate action to hurt your opponent

morpheus2 · Post by **morpheus2** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:03 pm

Prediction - Final score;

England 5 - 1 Panama

mkmel · Post by **mkmel** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:03 pm

I said to a friend of mine yesterday that England would win 5 - 0

Bin Ont Turf · Post by **Bin Ont Turf** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:04 pm

We want 10.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:04 pm

Struggling at cricket though.
Another just gone. (Morgan).
27/4 now, chasing 206.
Glad I went to Trent Bridge now and, not today!

Ashingtonclaret46 · Post by **Ashingtonclaret46** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:05 pm

dpinsussex wrote:That is a clear and obvious error and when VAR should be used. If you jump for the ball your hand is never clenched. Clenching is a deliberate action to hurt your opponent

I agree dp, it was deliberate for the reasons you say and was not seen as such by the referee at the time and was not reviewed but probably should have been.

dpinsussex · Post by **dpinsussex** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:07 pm

9-0 is record in 1954 Hungary v Korea 33-1 odds on 10 - 0

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:12 pm

Steve1956 wrote:1-1 another disappointing day watching England!

Who'd invite Steve to a party ?

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:17 pm

Blackrod wrote:Is demot dermot hiding ?

Even Bolton Wanderers would be 5-0 up against Panama. They are that bad.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:20 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Even Bolton Wanderers would be 5-0 up against Panama. They are that bad.

With Hodgson in charge we lost to Iceland and Harry Kane was taking corners
Southgate like a breath of fresh air if you can’t see that , there’s no hope for you

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:21 pm

great going forward,,, still look a bit shaky in the back..trips has been excellent

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:23 pm

Interesting way to net three!

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:24 pm

as i said shaky at the back...Belgium will exploit that

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:28 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Even Bolton Wanderers would be 5-0 up against Panama. They are that bad.

You are right. But we can only beat what's in front of us.

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:30 pm

dermotdermot wrote:Loftus-Cheek over Wilshire. Dumb decision. This will end in tears. Will Southgate resign immediately or will he stay and subject us to more misery in two years time?

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:35 pm

Defense looks a bit shaky. Won't get away with it against a better team. Tarks and Mee would sort it all out

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Ronaldo will carve our defence apart given the opportunity.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 pm

like i keep saying defensively we are shaky very shaky

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 pm

There you are. I said that this would end in tears.

Croydon Claret · Post by **Croydon Claret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Croydon Claret wrote:Defense looks a bit shaky. Won't get away with it against a better team. Tarks and Mee would sort it all out

Ahem

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Pope would've saved that

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:37 pm

Pickford....good with his feet? Nah!
Smallest/thinnest one on one.

No chance with goal.

Claret · Post by **Claret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:37 pm

6-1. It’s been coming. 15 mins left. I’m worried now.

taio · Post by **taio** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:37 pm

dermotdermot wrote:There you are. I said that this would end in tears.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:37 pm

careless when where u finish in group has a bearing,, i cant see us keeping a clean sheet against belgium

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:39 pm

To say we've played the red lion and dog and duck , we've let a few golden chances come against us with sloppy play.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:39 pm

Like Portugal defense any better

claretblue · Post by **claretblue** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:39 pm

get Nick on!

Imploding Turtle · Post by **Imploding Turtle** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:40 pm

Goalposts wrote:careless when where u finish in group has a bearing,, i cant see us keeping a clean sheet against belgium

If it's a draw in the final game i think it'll be decided by the fair play system. If this finishes 6-1

Spijed · Post by **Spijed** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:41 pm

Trippier being strapped up. Hopefully only a precaution.

basil6345789 · Post by **basil6345789** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:44 pm

Pickford clowning about and then Weetabix diving. Not that he would have got to it even with a proper dive.

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:45 pm

last game sterling starts for england this world cup me thinks...impact sub at best now

Damo · Post by **Damo** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:47 pm

Us and Belgium now on identical goal difference and goals scored.
Who wins the group if we draw against them?

MACCA · Post by **MACCA** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:48 pm

Damo wrote:Us and Belgium now on identical goal difference and goals scored.
Who wins the group if we draw against them?

Panama

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:51 pm

Damo wrote:Us and Belgium now on identical goal difference and goals scored.
Who wins the group if we draw against them?

fair play position

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:53 pm

rodriguez for them could be worth a look

IndigoLake · Post by **IndigoLake** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 2:55 pm

Once we scored the 6th goal (excellent really that we managed to score so many, so soon), I was just hoping for a clean sheet. It was more hope than expectation because I don't have a great deal of confidence in our defence. We look like we have mistakes in us (we are a young team to be fair) and we'll have some trouble against a half-decent attacking side. We'll therefore need to keep doing what we're doing in attack - think we've been very positive and patient in the first two games. Obviously a tougher test versus Belgium but we can go into the game with some confidence.

BennyD · Post by **BennyD** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:00 pm

My main concern is a weak defence, a better team would have made us pay today. I’m not looking forward to Thursday if they can’t sort it out by then.

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:06 pm

It looked like we were happy to keep the score to 6-1 and that makes sense to me, as finishing second currently looks like it might be the best way to avoid Germany and Brazil until the final.

Claretmatt4 · Post by **Claretmatt4** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:23 pm

Plenty of sides look suspect at the back, Belgium, Germany, Portugal, France, Spain off the top of my head have all been carved open by minnows.

We would have been 2-0 down inside 5 minutes today v Belgium, that's for sure.

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:28 pm

Defence is an issue. Going forward, very positive. Belgium were crap at the back, fortunately.

PaintYorkClaretnBlue · Post by **PaintYorkClaretnBlue** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:36 pm

joey13 wrote:With Hodgson in charge we lost to Iceland and Harry Kane was taking corners
Southgate like a breath of fresh air if you can’t see that , there’s no hope for you

This, this and, oh, this again!

Lancasterclaret · Post by **Lancasterclaret** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 4:54 pm

First half was superb, and the 2nd (understandably) wasn't anything special

But you have to set down a marker at the world cup, and that was a pretty good way to do it.

joey13 · Post by **joey13** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:00 pm

PaintYorkClaretnBlue wrote:This, this and, oh, this again!

And this 6-1

FactualFrank · Post by **FactualFrank** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 5:27 pm

I was saying the same thing in the Tunisia game. Our defence looks like it could always give a goal away. And it's not just the defending either, they look slow at turning and often find it difficult to pass to somebody 10 yards away from them. Thursday could be a goal fest, as Belgium's defence aint great either.

I think we'll be relying quite a lot on set-pieces for our goals, too. So the difference between a good ref (like today) and a poor one, could be significant. If we get poor referees, then we won't be getting penalties when Harry Kane is MMA'd to the ground.

biggles · Post by **biggles** » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:41 pm

A MAN A PLAN A CANAL PANAMA ? that's backwards!