Fracking

[Imploding Turtle]

It would be good not to have to rely on Arab and Russian oil and gas and be self sufficient.

An excellent argument for exploiting the renewable energy sources we have.

[ontario claret]

Canada has just announced a new mega-gas plant for Prince Rupert, on the B.C. coast. Mostly destined for Asian markets, but you're welcome to a share.

[Spiral]

I didnt.
I just called people like you hypocritical

Okay, well you're clearly being unreasonable because, as far as I can tell, there's nothing hypocritical in what I've posted, and there's nothing objectively unreasonable in inferring a person saying:

but all of the people...who also bleat about global warming, should be laughed at at every oppertunity. The stupid idiots.

...and who, I assume, believes those who trust the data on climate change and, specifically, the scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change, should be "laughed at at every oppertunity" (sic), would, by inferred opposition, be a climate change denier.

[Jakubclaret]

Okay, well you're clearly being unreasonable because, as far as I can tell, there's nothing hypocritical in what I've posted, and there's nothing objectively unreasonable in inferring a person saying:



...and who, I assume, believes those who trust the data on climate change and, specifically, the scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change, should be "laughed at at every oppertunity" (sic), would, by inferred opposition, be a climate change denier.

Some of this has spilled out from the Brexit debate I can tell with remainers backing remainers up vica versa, you've had a go at me & now Damo. Maybe some people are in a argumentative mood tonight & maybe the grolsch ect kicking in, I'm not night.

[Spiral]

It seems you have completely missed his point

The scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change was arrived at way after Thatcher closed the coal mines. (Around the turn of the millennium, in fact.) The only way those two arguments ('keep the mines open' and 'move towards renewables') could ever be considered hypocritical would be on the assumptions that Thatcher's decisions were environmentally or ecologically informed, not economically or politically.

[Leisure]

Ignorant prick.

Ignorant, me!

[Leisure]

OK. So i've done the maths and it would appear that you are wrong.

Don't think I am! Was you around then when coal mining started?

[claretdj]

Ignorant prick.

N now ya barred from Accy clarets ya stupid prick!

[duncandisorderly]

I read threads like this to find out if fracking is good or bad. I still don't know. Debate it, don't turn it into an argument.

[Spiral]

Some of this has spilled out from the Brexit debate I can tell with remainers backing remainers up vica versa, you've had a go at me & now Damo. Maybe some people are in a argumentative mood tonight & maybe the grolsch ect kicking in, I'm not night.

You're coming at this from a completely adversarial point of view and you shouldn't, mate. There's no need to circle the wagons because I assure you, nobody is ganging up on you or taking a shot on the grounds of your opinions on Brexit. I'm sorry if I've come across as abrasive. Folk who are big enough to accept that they might have been wrong on a thing engender far more respect that those who double down on their terrible grasp of facts or logic or whatever.

[Jakubclaret]

You're coming at this from a completely adversarial point of view and you shouldn't, mate. There's no need to circle the wagons because I assure you, nobody is ganging up on you or taking a shot on the grounds of your opinions on Brexit. I'm sorry if I've come across as abrasive. Folk who are big enough to accept that they might have been wrong on a thing engender far more respect that those who double down on their terrible grasp of facts or logic or whatever.

It's no right or wrong involved, just seems to be a pattern of coincidence involved tonight surrounding peoples EU votes. I'm renewing my sleep tonight but will have more energy tomorrow for a different activity if you get my drift.

[Imploding Turtle]

Don't think I am! Was you around then when coal mining started?

We both know the answer to that question, although i'm curious as to why you think the answer matters.

[IAmAClaret]

Outside the 'fracking site' there is susan, wearing straw in her hair, jumping about in flip flops with a yellow placard at the start of October.

Inside the 'fracking site' there is Mary, smartly dressed, calmly spoken, educated with a professional demeanour.

I know who I'm listening to.... Let's get fracking.

[Imploding Turtle]

Outside the 'fracking site' there is susan, wearing straw in her hair, jumping about in flip flops with a yellow placard at the start of October.

Inside the 'fracking site' there is Mary, smartly dressed, calmly spoken, educated with a professional demeanour.

I know who I'm listening to.... Let's get fracking.

Susan has a Phd in Climatology, Mary has an MBA in Business Administration.
I know who i'm listening to.

[Sutton-Claret]

We live on a windy, rainy island surrounded by tidal oceans.

Lets dig in the ground for our energy needs.

Yes but everybody complains about them too.

[Leisure]

Susan has a Phd in Climatology, Mary has an MBA in Business Administration.
I know who i'm listening to.

Yeah, I going with Mary too!

[IAmAClaret]

Susan has a Phd in Climatology, Mary has an MBA in Business Administration.
I know who i'm listening to.

As long as no one listens too you, we all win.

[Damo]

The scientific consensus on anthropogenic climate change was arrived at way after Thatcher closed the coal mines. (Around the turn of the millennium, in fact.) The only way those two arguments ('keep the mines open' and 'move towards renewables') could ever be considered hypocritical would be on the assumptions that Thatcher's decisions were environmentally or ecologically informed, not economically or politically.

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You were only 100 years or so out

[Imploding Turtle]

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You were only 100 years or so out

I don't think you know what "scientific consensus" means.
Or maybe you do but you just made a basic mistake. We'll see.

[Imploding Turtle]

Maybe it all won't matter of Yellowstone goes off.

We'll have decades of warning of this supervolcanic eruption happening when it begins but it's in Wyoming, Montana and Idaho, three states that vote for the party that is a denier of science and thinks religion should inform everything, so i'm sure their prayers will prevent it.

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