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by Herts Clarets » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:43 am
Claretitus wrote:One for us older Clarets- The Phil Cavener Corner................
I forwarded this to Cav. He approves of this idea

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by Bfc » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:52 am
Herts Clarets, isn’t Phil Cav now chairman of Bedford Town. He’s another ex player who has done well for himself since he stopped playing and also a nice bloke.
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by Herts Clarets » Tue Apr 09, 2019 8:58 am
Yes he is. I spoke to him quite a few years ago and mentioned I lived in a village in Bedfordshire at the time, doubt you will have heard of it. When I said it was Arlesey, he told me they won the 1995 FA Vase at Wembley and to check who the manager was. Sure enough it was Cav. As you say he is a nice bloke.
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by Bfc » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:32 pm
When he was an apprentice, he was always the first to turn up (8am) on the days they'd to clean the terraces.
He's still big mates with another apprentice at the time Dave Tait, who I keep in touch with.
I think Cav was due to come upto watch his team Newcastle play us this season, but something cropped up, forcing him to miss the opportunity.
Remember him living on Burnley Rd Cliviger, near the Queen pub and seeing him a few times on the Tod ( green) bus.
My daughter played in goal for Burnley girls and Phil gave me some goalie gloves and other kit for her, which he got from the German sports Co he then worked for. Ive got his contact details and keep saying to myself I will get in touch with him again, but like owt else, time goes by and I forget.
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by Herts Clarets » Tue Apr 09, 2019 3:45 pm
Bfc wrote:When he was an apprentice, he was always the first to turn up (8am) on the days they'd to clean the terraces.
He's still big mates with another apprentice at the time Dave Tait, who I keep in touch with.
I think Cav was due to come upto watch his team Newcastle play us this season, but something cropped up, forcing him to miss the opportunity.
Remember him living on Burnley Rd Cliviger, near the Queen pub and seeing him a few times on the Tod ( green) bus.
My daughter played in goal for Burnley girls and Phil gave me some goalie gloves and other kit for her, which he got from the German sports Co he then worked for. Ive got his contact details and keep saying to myself I will get in touch with him again, but like owt else, time goes by and I forget.
He has invited me to Bedford Town v Dunstable and to get me into the boardroom on Easter Monday. May well take him up on that offer. Sure he will have plenty of Claret stories to tell.
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by evensteadiereddie » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:00 pm
Bearing in mind our opponents, the Sala Stand. Oh no, on second thoughts, we couldn't - we've paid for it...........
Sorry.
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by Bfc » Tue Apr 09, 2019 6:15 pm
Herts Claret, will you ask if he knows of the whereabouts of George Dormond (a Newcastle lad) and Steven (Fred) Else (Mansfield), both apprentices at same time as Phil and Rob Higgin, who like myself often wonder what they've done since leaving Burnley.
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by Spike » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:09 pm
There is only one logical name for a Disabled stand and that is after our most illustrious physio
The jimmy Holland Stand
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by Ric_C » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:41 pm
it's taken longer to build these than both of our new stands in 1995/96!
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by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:43 pm
It was definitely against Hull. It was discussed on the message board some time ago and Cav registered to comment.
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by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:45 pm
Spike wrote:There is only one logical name for a Disabled stand and that is after our most illustrious physio
The jimmy Holland Stand
I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
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by wilks_bfc » Wed Apr 10, 2019 1:59 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
I’ve had a few conversations with visiting fans asking who/what kind of player “James Hargreaves” was
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by clarethomer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:12 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
The way of the world is if they can monetise something they will.
I now see/hear more reference to the stands by the names of players that the old names of bee hole and long side.
If it's not a player, it will be a company like the Oak Furniture Bob Lord (or totally wicked as it was) Stand or Ladbrokes CF Stand (not sure if they have actually done that officially) but it's the way the world is now - I hate it also. I'm waiting for the GM Fitted Screen and the new corner stands to be commercialised.
We are a traditional club but whether it happens now or later - I wouldn't slate you for having that view as it's one I share - but progression and change will happen no matter how disrespectful it may feel now.
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by Claretmatt4 » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:17 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
Even after players? And do you just mean these corners or all stands?
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by Chester Perry » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:17 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
In complete agreement with you CT - wrong on so many levels
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by Sausage » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:29 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
I agree that it's disrespectful to name disabled facilities after disabled former players. You honour players for what they achieved with the club not the disability that sadly afflicts them now. If we want a Gary Parkinson Stand (to use one obvious example), rename the CFS. Don't rub his nose in it by naming one of the corner stands. You wouldn't name a burns unit after Simon Weston.
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by Fretters » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:31 pm
Chester Perry wrote:In complete agreement with you CT - wrong on so many levels
Think there's only two levels

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by ClaretTony » Wed Apr 10, 2019 2:36 pm
Sausage wrote:I agree that it's disrespectful to name disabled facilities after disabled former players. You honour players for what they achieved with the club not the disability that sadly afflicts them now. If we want a Gary Parkinson Stand (to use one obvious example), rename the CFS. Don't rub his nose in it by naming one of the corner stands. You wouldn't name a burns unit after Simon Weston.
You’ve put it better than I have. It really isn’t the right thing to do at all.
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by tim_noone » Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:56 pm
ClaretTony wrote:I got slated a while ago for this but I still think it’s disrespectful to name the stands.
Agreed.
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by damo_whitehead » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:19 pm
Not seen anything from the club about the new stand opening tomorrow. Anyone know if it's going ahead?
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by Quickenthetempo » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:24 pm
wilks_bfc wrote:I’ve had a few conversations with visiting fans asking who/what kind of player “James Hargreaves” was
He was a centre forward who scored a lot of 'TAP ins'.
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by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:27 pm
wilks_bfc wrote:I’ve had a few conversations with visiting fans asking who/what kind of player “James Hargreaves” was
He was my granddad
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by jdrobbo » Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:44 pm
I recall Darren and Doug doing a detailed video in an edition of Turf More, a month or so ago.
The first corner should’ve opened at the start of the New Year but there were some problems. They said that they’ve been resolved and that the stand will be completed and opened to a few fans, to test the different vantage points, lifts, services etc, by the Cardiff game. Really looking forward to seeing it finished. It’s about time, but at least there are no more delays

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by Top Claret » Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
Quickenthetempo wrote:He was a centre forward who scored a lot of 'TAP ins'.
And he new his ball from his cock
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by NickBFC » Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:02 pm
Unfortunately can't get to the game tomorrow from Sussex, could someone post some pics of the new stands? Interested to see how they have progressed. Cheers.
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by ClaretTony » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:24 pm
Went down to get some Chelsea tickets today so had a walk round. The one in the Bob Lord/Jimmy Mac corner doesn't look much different than the last game. I then went round to have a look at the one in the Longside/Jimmy Mac corner. Are they seriously going to be using that tomorrow? Doesn't look anywhere near ready to me although there was a lot of work going on.
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by cav » Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:31 pm
I know someone working on the new stands. The Longside/Jimmy Mac one will not be in use tomorrow. They’re hoping to have it ready for the last game v Arsenal.
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by ClaretTony » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:09 am
cav wrote:I know someone working on the new stands. The Longside/Jimmy Mac one will not be in use tomorrow. They’re hoping to have it ready for the last game v Arsenal.
I'd have been amazed if it was in use looking at it today, but the last update from the club was that it would be in use. Mind you, in the previous update they suggested it would be ready for Everton on Boxing Day.
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by Oshkoshclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 3:26 am
Bear in mind we recently had an update from the club that referred to the January window as being successful
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by jdrobbo » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:35 am
But why no update, if that’s the case? Surely the club would’ve communicated this info?
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by randomclaret2 » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:45 am
Progress has been painfully slow, even after the initial problems around the foundations were finally resolved.
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by Uwe Noble » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:07 pm
Brian Millar stand?
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by Foulthrow » Sat Apr 13, 2019 12:45 pm
You know that one bloke you see with the high vis on who is sat in the corner stand while the game is on?
Is it just him building it by himself? Seems like it.
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by summitclaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:01 pm
Top Claret wrote:And he new his ball from his cock
He was good at soaking up pressure also and doing the dirty work.
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by AndyClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:10 pm
Updated pictures
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by Inchy » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:38 pm
AndyClaret wrote:Updated pictures
Looks decent from inside. From outside the cladding looks shocking. Hope they tart it up a bit
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by AndyClaret » Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:54 pm
I don't know why they have painted it grey and white, looks stupid.
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by Rowls » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:12 pm
They could name one of the stands after our ex-reserve goalkeeper - Tom Cannardly
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by NRC » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:12 pm
Turf Moor looking more and more like the house that Jack built
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by Spijed » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:41 am
Taken before the game yesterday. Certainly plenty of work still to do on the outside.
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by cav » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:00 am
Opening Sunday so I’ve heard.
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by beddie » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:23 am
It's a shame the area designated for the disabled supporters couldn't have been on the other side next to the Bob Lord and JM stand, it gets all the driving wind and rain towards the JHS.
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by martin_p » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:32 am
beddie wrote:It's a shame the area designated for the disabled supporters couldn't have been on the other side next to the Bob Lord and JM stand, it gets all the driving wind and rain towards the JHS.
But there’s another stand going up in that very corner.
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by karatekid » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:40 am
I hope the workmen turn it the right way round again by Sunday

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by Spijed » Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:41 am
Is the current disabled seating going to remain where it is or will that be reverting back to normal seats once both corner stands are finished?
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by FeedTheArf » Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:22 pm
Spijed wrote:Taken before the game yesterday. Certainly plenty of work still to do on the outside.
Why couldn't the cladding be made to match the stands around it i.e. claret, then a blue stripe, then white. Or even all Claret to make it easier?
Same with the paint inside. White and grey just makes the stand stick out like a sore thumb when it's surrounded by claret and blue seats - surely this would've been a better idea?
(Excuse the dodgy paint job, but you get the idea!)

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by Spijed » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:15 pm
FeedTheArf wrote:Why couldn't the cladding be made to match the stands around it i.e. claret, then a blue stripe, then white. Or even all Claret to make it easier?
Same with the paint inside. White and grey just makes the stand stick out like a sore thumb when it's surrounded by claret and blue seats - surely this would've been a better idea?
(Excuse the dodgy paint job, but you get the idea!)
Yes, having it all black doesn't seem to quite match. The new grey cladding on the front of the Bob Lord stand looks better and I'm surprised they didn't do similar with this corner stand.
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by wilks_bfc » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:23 pm
FeedTheArf wrote:Why couldn't the cladding be made to match the stands around it i.e. claret, then a blue stripe, then white. Or even all Claret to make it easier?
Same with the paint inside. White and grey just makes the stand stick out like a sore thumb when it's surrounded by claret and blue seats - surely this would've been a better idea?
(Excuse the dodgy paint job, but you get the idea!)

After having experience of Barnfield paint jobs, your mock-up might not be as dodgy as you think

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by Spike » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:24 pm
which clown suggested they would be ready for August. Taking away all the ground work problems the rest of the work has taken absolutely Yonks!