Same happened on BBC Breakfast yesterday, when the female " sports correspondent " stated Big Jack was manager of Sheffield United. The BBC are too busy ticking boxes these days, rather than using genuine people who could offer an insight or maybe more. I actually haven't watched MOTD for about 3 years now, and can't see it changing. BBC is absolutely dire, and we HAVE to pay the fee, therefore paying these useless sycophants.THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:17 amit says it all how rubbish 🗑 Lineker and his cohorts are when in the tribute to Jack Charlton at the top of the show that they couldn't even be bothered to get the clubs correct he managed
The set of d!cks
I had to rewind it back a few times...I couldn't quite believe what I heard.THEWELLERNUT70 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:17 amit says it all how rubbish 🗑 Lineker and his cohorts are when in the tribute to Jack Charlton at the top of the show that they couldn't even be bothered to get the clubs correct he managed
The set of d!cks
BennyD wrote: ↑Sat Jul 11, 2020 11:11 pmBloody BBC; on just about last, and why do we have to see the knee taking/black power salute at the start of the highlights of every match? Yes, we get it, we don’t have to see every f*cking one of them. I’m not watching this poxy agenda driven show again until it stops pushing extremist politics. Absolute bollocxs.
It's not "black power" - far from it.
Nor is it "agenda driven"
It's not "extremist politics", either.
A) Not only are they ‘taking the knee’ some are giving the right arm ‘Black Power’ salute, so if you need to watch it actually look at what they are doing.!aiboforceN wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:38 amIt's not "black power" - far from it.
Nor is it "agenda driven"
It's not "extremist politics", either.
But, like you, I'd also like to see more of the game. Thankfully, the internet offers many, many opportunities to do just that. Phew!
Agreed. The BBC is now much more into woke virtue signaling than putting out quality, balanced well-researched material that is for the British people as a whole.Claretitus wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:00 amSame happened on BBC Breakfast yesterday, when the female " sports correspondent " stated Big Jack was manager of Sheffield United. The BBC are too busy ticking boxes these days, rather than using genuine people who could offer an insight or maybe more. I actually haven't watched MOTD for about 3 years now, and can't see it changing. BBC is absolutely dire, and we HAVE to pay the fee, therefore paying these useless sycophants.
I don't know if the exact figure is public knowledge, due to the shroud of secrecy surrounding their high earners, but that's roughly the sort of numbers I've seen doing the rounds, easy money for spouting s^^t, and he's good at spouting s^^t.randomclaret2 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:56 amHow much is Lineker paid by the BBC...£1.75million is it ?
FYI, at least 2 Arsenal players were giving the Black Power salute as they took a knee. Keep colour politics out of football or things could start to get ugly.!aiboforceN wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 9:38 amIt's not "black power" - far from it.
Nor is it "agenda driven"
It's not "extremist politics", either.
But, like you, I'd also like to see more of the game. Thankfully, the internet offers many, many opportunities to do just that. Phew!
Things will soon change once the crowds are allowed back, decent average punters won't put up with this political nonsense, they will let them know in no uncertain terms.
If you want to pay for the BBC and think it’s worth it, you go ahead and pay. Personally, I don’t see why it should be a tax for people with TVs and would rather not. If they decide to push a particular agenda that I don’t agree with, I have even more reservations about being taxed to support it. I always watch SKY these days, which I voluntarily pay for, rather than the terrestrial TV stations because, despite the tedious adverts, I prefer watching it.Stalbansclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 4:55 pmYes.last night's Motd was rubbish from our perspective and the presenters showed us no respect. I agree there is cause for complaint. This can perhaps be offset by the (well deserved) massive and prolonged praise for our performance at West Ham the other night on the previous MotD. Yes..I'd also agree the overtly PC/liberal agenda at the BBC does really grate at times and the repeated showing of "the knee" is indeed an example of this...and I speak as someone who supports Black Lives Matter in the sense of racial equality and human decency BUT it's sad to see this thread bringing out the BBC knockers who try and use criticism of an edition of MotD to rant about their agenda of defunding it. For all it's failings I'd happily pay the licence fee just for the BBC radio stations..in fact just 6Music and Radio 5....and website alone, never mind the fact that it produces some excellent TV (and without anyone trying to sell me an online gambling app or some shampoo every 20 minutes too). I truly don't get why anyone would think that a world of commercial TV and radio alone would be a better option.
My main point is that this is a thread about one edition of MotD but people like Ringo McCartney can't wait to jump on it to make a semi-political point about defunding the BBC.
As I say to me the licence fee of around 43p a day is well worth it for BBC radio and their website alone. Commercial radio is even wore than commercial TV in terms of horrendous repetition of crass adverts. My objection..as I say...was around the hijacking of the thread by people wanting to make what is essentially a political point.BennyD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 5:29 pmIf you want to pay for the BBC and think it’s worth it, you go ahead and pay. Personally, I don’t see why it should be a tax for people with TVs and would rather not. If they decide to push a particular agenda that I don’t agree with, I have even more reservations about being taxed to support it. I always watch SKY these days, which I voluntarily pay for, rather than the terrestrial TV stations because, despite the tedious adverts, I prefer watching it.
What are you on about ? The whole point I am making is that the thread is about last night's MotD (and it's poor treatment of our club) yet some choose to start posting their opposition to the BBC as a whole because of their political opposition to it. I don't think the BBC have posted on the thread but if I've missed it let me know where.
Which charity are you giving it to? I bet you don't give it to a charity do you Benny.
Sorry to hear about your son Benny.BennysD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:52 pmLevraiclaret, I said I’d rather give it to charity than pay the BBC. However, I don’t have the option as yet but I live in hope. As you asked, I would donate, as I do regularly, to the Bone Cancer Research Trust as my son died of bone cancer and I wouldn’t want anyone else to have to go through what he did. Happy?
Btw, I voted leave so why am I a liar?
So, I voted leave so why am I a liar?levraiclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:49 pmWhich charity are you giving it to? I bet you don't give it to a charity do you Benny.
Personally I think the BBC is tremendous value apart from their failure to understand that balance does not include allowing liars (leavers) equal weight with factual contributors.
Garbage. Utter garbage.levraiclaret wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 6:49 pmWhich charity are you giving it to? I bet you don't give it to a charity do you Benny.
Personally I think the BBC is tremendous value apart from their failure to understand that balance does not include allowing liars (leavers) equal weight with factual contributors.
Sorry to hear about your son Benny.BennyD wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 7:52 pmLevraiclaret, I said I’d rather give it to charity than pay the BBC. However, I don’t have the option as yet but I live in hope. As you asked, I would donate, as I do regularly, to the Bone Cancer Research Trust as my son died of bone cancer and I wouldn’t want anyone else to have to go through what he did. Happy?
Btw, I voted leave so why am I a liar?
Me thinks the leaver doth protest too much.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Sun Jul 12, 2020 8:36 pmGarbage. Utter garbage.
Pro-Brexit voices drowned out in BBC news programmes, new analysis shows
Pro-Brexit views have been under-represented on flagship BBC news programmes for decades, a new report published today by Civitas shows. While a large section of the population have long supported the UK’s withdrawal from the EU, and a majority voted for it in 2016, their views have been heavily marginalised in the Corporation’s news output.
For instance, of 4,275guests talking about the EU on BBC Radio 4’s flagship Today programme between 2005 and 2015, only 132 (3.2 per cent) were supporters of the UK’s withdrawal from the EU.
In 274 hours of monitored BBC EU coverage between 2002 and 2017, only 14 speakers (0.2 per cent of the total) were left-wing advocates for leaving the EU. These 14 contributors delivered 1,680 words, adding up to approximately 12 minutes. During the same period, two strongly pro-EU Conservatives, Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine, made between them 28 appearances, with contributions totalling 11,208 words – over nine times the amount of airtime allocated to all left-wing withdrawalists.
There has been a determined reluctance to even probe the question as to whether Britain should leave the EU. Between 2005 and 2011, when UKIP had 12 seats in the European Parliament,only 20 questions about actually leaving the EU were posed in 1,073 surveyed editions of Today. So there was an average of one question on withdrawal for every 54 editions, or for every 153 programme hours.
These findings are drawn from a sequential analysis of the News-watch reports dating back to 1999. Since the European Parliament elections of that year News-watch has compiled 38 mainly half-yearly reports, based on 8,000 programme transcripts covering almost 300 hundred hours of EU content.
The bias has continued after the vote for Brexit. A month of the Today Programme in October and November 2017 carried 97 interviews on EU topics, but only nine were with long term supporters of Brexit.
The authors, David Keighley and Andrew Jubb, write:
“When opinion in favour of leaving the EU has featured, the editorial approach has – at the expense of exploring withdrawal itself – tended heavily towards discrediting and denigrating opposition to the EU as xenophobic, and to cast those who supported it as incompetent and venal.
“The overview provided here is a shocking indictment of the BBC’s failure to achieve impartiality, and in particular to incorporate the views of those who desired to leave the EU into its news output. Despite frequent requests to the Chairman and Director General of the BBC from a cross-party group of MPs concerned about BBC bias, the Corporation has been unable to provide a single programme that has examined the opportunities of Brexit. And we cannot find one either.
“The corporation is impervious to all complaints in this domain. It may well be that in the face of this lofty intransigence, something more radical – such as a Judicial Review of the complaints process – might be the only way forward.”
Thank you, much appreciated.levraiclaret wrote: ↑Mon Jul 13, 2020 10:55 amSorry to hear about your son Benny.
I reference to leavers being platformed on the BBC was to Farage, Johnson, Hannan etc not to the voters they misled.
Me thinks the sore loser remoaner detests the facts too much.
Bien sur, what rational person wouldn't be.RingoMcCartney wrote: ↑Tue Jul 14, 2020 9:37 amMe thinks the sore loser remoaner detests the facts too much.