Move for Hendrick.....

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by jojomk1 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 8:18 am

Inchy wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:50 am
Hendrick starting in any premier league team is just an indication of that teams weakness
With that assumption it shows just how we have got to our lowly position, in so far as Dyche considered he was a strength within the framework and was more than keen for him to stay

And replaced him with Dale Stephens - now that is building for the future :roll:

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Steve1956 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:15 am

I'm just glad Dyche picks the team and not our support I enjoyed watching Hendrick play for us and I thought he repaid his transfer fee,funny how now hes gone we are struggling in the bottom three,we miss him in our team right now.122 games for us tells us Dyche trusted him.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by gtclaret » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:34 am

He was often on our bench as well. He complained to an Irish newspaper that he wasn't given enough game time at Burnley. If JBG had stayed fit, he would not have been a regular starter, he was behind Westwood and Cork in the middle. He filled in, IMO he was an adequate player, nothing exceptional, we miss him this season due to the amount of injuries we have had, and the fact that we failed to recruit
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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:45 am

I cant believe the posters who think Hendricks good. He was dog ****.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:28 am

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:45 am
I cant believe the posters who think Hendricks good. He was dog ****.
How many players in the past 50 years have clocked up so many top division appearances for our club in what has generally been a successful period for us.
With one or two exceptions you've really got to go back to the 60s and early 70s, to find players with as many appearances (and wins).
That should tell you something, and Dyche got it.
If he is at the level you describe, what's your view of all those players who turned out for us between about 1975 and 2009?
(Worse than *******? )

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by DCWat » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:38 am

Hendrick was a useful player in that he could fill a few positions, but he is limited. It’s not exactly a huge surprise that he isn’t pulling up any trees at Newcastle.

He’s not really effective enough as a regular winger or a central midfielder and as with a few who have left us, was suited to the way we play but perhaps not, at this level, for others.

If we are to progress, we need better than Hendrick, as a regular starter, but he’d still be a useful utility man.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Untinted Glasses » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:28 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:28 am
How many players in the past 50 years have clocked up so many top division appearances for our club in what has generally been a successful period for us.
With one or two exceptions you've really got to go back to the 60s and early 70s, to find players with as many appearances (and wins).
That should tell you something, and Dyche got it.
If he is at the level you describe, what's your view of all those players who turned out for us between about 1975 and 2009?
(Worse than *******? )
My view is on Hendrick and honestly not just saying it to wind people up I do think he was a bad player. He might have been part of a successful period but that doesnt qualify him as a good footballer. It does qualify him to be part of a well drilled team but good player ? Sorry no.
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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:46 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:28 pm
My view is on Hendrick and honestly not just saying it to wind people up I do think he was a bad player. He might have been part of a successful period but that doesnt qualify him as a good footballer. It does qualify him to be part of a well drilled team but good player ? Sorry no.
I think your glasses are tinted.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by nil_desperandum » Sun Dec 13, 2020 6:53 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:28 pm
My view is on Hendrick and honestly not just saying it to wind people up I do think he was a bad player. He might have been part of a successful period but that doesnt qualify him as a good footballer. It does qualify him to be part of a well drilled team but good player ? Sorry no.
How can you be a well-drilled successful team if one of your players is "bad"?
Surely, by definition, everyone has a job to do in that team, and he did it.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by superdimitri » Sun Dec 13, 2020 11:28 pm

Untinted Glasses wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:45 am
I cant believe the posters who think Hendricks good. He was dog ****.
This. The praise was bad enough when he played for us let alone when he doesn't. He's proving at Newcastle that he also offers little. Someone on here made a comment about him being a championship player soon and I agree.

People are quick to say you don't notice what he does when you're critical of him but I certainly noticed it. I think it's pretty obvious to see Brownhill is a big upgrade. Could you imagine Hendrick putting in a performance like today?

Yeah flashes of magic every so often but goes missing ball watching far too often. No loss for our starting 11 but may have been useful as an extra body on the bench (as Newcastle are seeing now).

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Inchy » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:02 pm

Hendrick had legend status by some when he played here, that’s been upgraded to god status by some.


We have 2 miles better centre midfielders at the club. He did a job but he wasn’t good enough. Dyche clearly tried to replace him several times. Why sign Westwood when you have hendrick? Why sign defour?

He ended his time at Burnley on the wing because we were desperate and it was either him or a Jack Russell. He slightly edged it over the Jack Russell.

He’s a Championship player.

Just because he spent some time as a starter doesn’t mean he was that good, he just suited our system for a period o time.

I predicted he would be benched by Xmas. I was right. I’m predicting he will be in he championship next season, unless he’s willing to sit out of the squad picking up a check every month

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:12 pm

Some on his forum seem obsessed with Hendrick and there are some truly ridiculous views on this thread. Surely the reality is that Hendrick was/is a useful upper-grade-journeyman footballer who played a useful utility-man role in our establishing ourselves in the PL. He was prone to some anonymous games but also to moments of brilliance and important contribution such as :
- that wonder goal st home to Bournemouth
- last minute equaliser at Brighton last season
- excellent back-stick volley to beat Everton last season
- great finish to our fantastic team goal at Goodison a couple of years ago

I'm really not sure why he seems to make some people impassioned about how useless he was, when he was quite obviously wasn't. any more than he was the Claret Pele either. Decent enough player but not too heartbroken to see him go either, although we clearly should have found a right-side-of-midfield replacement.

Can we stop talking about him now ?
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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by dsr » Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:48 pm

Steve1956 wrote:
Sun Dec 13, 2020 10:15 am
I'm just glad Dyche picks the team and not our support I enjoyed watching Hendrick play for us and I thought he repaid his transfer fee,funny how now hes gone we are struggling in the bottom three,we miss him in our team right now.122 games for us tells us Dyche trusted him.
For the first few games of the season, both Hendrick and Mee were missing and we got only 1 point. In the last five games, Hendrick is still missing but Mee has returned, and we have got 8 points in 5 games. I'm not saying that Mee is the only reason we made a bad start and appear to be recovering, but I certainly don't see evidence that Hendrick being missing is what made the difference.

Hendrick was a good solid player who would have played this season, as he played last season, as cover for injured players. We miss him because he was a good reserve for 3 different first team players. But he wasn't the doughty pivot of the team without whom all falls apart.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:37 am

dsr wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:48 pm
For the first few games of the season, both Hendrick and Mee were missing and we got only 1 point. In the last five games, Hendrick is still missing but Mee has returned, and we have got 8 points in 5 games. I'm not saying that Mee is the only reason we made a bad start and appear to be recovering, but I certainly don't see evidence that Hendrick being missing is what made the difference.

Hendrick was a good solid player who would have played this season, as he played last season, as cover for injured players. We miss him because he was a good reserve for 3 different first team players. But he wasn't the doughty pivot of the team without whom all falls apart.
It's all just opinions mate,some of our support never warmed to Hendrick in all his time with us,I liked him.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by dsr » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:40 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:37 am
It's all just opinions mate,some of our support never warmed to Hendrick in all his time with us,I liked him.
I liked him too. Hard worker, did his best, regular member of a side that twice finished in the top half - what's not to like? He was a very good, likeable, squad player.
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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:42 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:40 am
I liked him too. Hard worker, did his best, regular member of a side that twice finished in the top half - what's not to like? He was a very good, likeable, squad player.
The stick he gets on here,I think we are in a minority dont you?

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:44 am

Hendrick is always an amusing debate.

Some of those saying he was a bad player will be the same ones who say it was a disgrace letting him leave for free when we should have sold him.

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by Steve1956 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:46 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:40 am
I liked him too. Hard worker, did his best, regular member of a side that twice finished in the top half - what's not to like? He was a very good, likeable, squad player.
Although a few games ago I read many many comments on here that Lowton should never pull on the Claret & Blue of Burnley ever again,then after Sunday hes the best thing since sliced bread😂....so what do supporters know? 😂
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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:54 am

Steve1956 wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:46 am
Although a few games ago I read many many comments on here that Lowton should never pull on the Claret & Blue of Burnley ever again,then after Sunday hes the best thing since sliced bread😂....so what do supporters know? 😂

It is only 2 games since an emtpy head claimed that Tarks & McNeil should never play for us again, don't be surprised if someone like Lowton gets a bit too :D

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by nil_desperandum » Tue Dec 15, 2020 9:54 am

dsr wrote:
Tue Dec 15, 2020 8:40 am
I liked him too. Hard worker, did his best, regular member of a side that twice finished in the top half - what's not to like? He was a very good, likeable, squad player.
Exactly this. I don't think any poster has ever suggested that he was any better than this, but those who claim he is a bad player, must not have watched Burnley from about 1975 till 2009. (Not that a lot of those players were bad, but they weren't PL standard, and Hendrick clearly is - albeit at the lower end of the PL spectrum).

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:30 pm

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Re: Move for Hendrick.....

Post by expoultryboy » Wed Dec 16, 2020 6:31 pm

Nice one jeff
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