Congratulations to Sir Lewis Hamilton

[DomBFC1882]

I really don’t know why you’d suggest that I think he’s faked his depression. It’s not a nice thing to suggest.

As per my post above, I like Fury and I admire his achievements in boxing. I am also capable of judging Hamilton (the most successful F1 driver of all time) by the same merits, unlike some other people. I just wonder what makes Fury more of a ‘real man’ than Fury.

Driving the fastest car versus fighting the best heavyweighs in the ring after years off with depression and drug and alcohol abuse. Hmmmmm yeah must be close

[RingoMcCartney]

That's not true and you know it....troublemaker!

Lewis accepted the award from his house in Monaco.












I rest my case..........

[Duffer_]

Pleased for Lewis but even he took time to acknowledge the amazing work done by Marcus Rashford this year. I look forward to sharing my appreciation for Rashford when we're all back on the Turf.

[RingoMcCartney]

By the way. The BBC!?

[DomBFC1882]

Pleased for Lewis but even he took time to acknowledge the amazing work done by Marcus Rashford this year. I look forward to sharing my appreciation for Rashford when we're all back on the Turf.

Exactly it had to be either fury or rashford without question but as mentioned no one gives a monkeys about the dirty corrupt peadopholic BBC

[Rileybobs]

Driving the fastest car versus fighting the best heavyweighs in the ring after years off with depression and drug and alcohol abuse. Hmmmmm yeah must be close

It’s a vote. Clearly the majority thought that Hamilton deserved the award. Perhaps Fury stating that he didn’t want the award resulted in a lack of votes. Did you vote?

[Steve1956]

Multi millionaire.......jealousy is a wicked trait
Congrats Lewis you deserve everything you have achieved

[DomBFC1882]

It’s a vote. Clearly the majority thought that Hamilton deserved the award. Perhaps Fury stating that he didn’t want the award resulted in a lack of votes. Did you vote?

But the people voting are BBC puppets for gods sake. Step outside your bubble and you'd realise that isn't the publics opinion

[Somethingfishy]

I sense this thread going downhill..as i feared any thread about SPOTY might

[Duffer_]

Exactly it had to be either fury or rashford without question but as mentioned no one gives a monkeys about the dirty corrupt peadopholic BBC

Just to be absolutely clear...I was not saying that despite your apparent agreement with my post.

[DomBFC1882]

It’s a vote. Clearly the majority thought that Hamilton deserved the award. Perhaps Fury stating that he didn’t want the award resulted in a lack of votes. Did you vote?

Nothing against you btw Riley and in fact I like many of your posts

[Rileybobs]

But the people voting are BBC puppets for gods sake. Step outside your bubble and you'd realise that isn't the publics opinion

What are you talking about? The people voting are the British public.

[DomBFC1882]

Just to be absolutely clear...I was not saying that despite your apparent agreement with my post.

I don't care. Im liking the part of it being either fury or rashford as you clearly mentioned

[Duffer_]

I don't care. Im liking the part of it being either fury or rashford as you clearly mentioned

But...I didn't mention Fury.

[Rileybobs]

Nothing against you btw Riley and in fact I like many of your posts

No worries. There’s nothing personal here, just a debate which some people are too quick to dismiss as bickering.

[DomBFC1882]

It’s a vote. Clearly the majority thought that Hamilton deserved the award. Perhaps Fury stating that he didn’t want the award resulted in a lack of votes. Did you vote?

No and rightly so. Fury doesn't even want the award as he knows how disgusting it is

[Steve1956]

But the people voting are BBC puppets for gods sake. Step outside your bubble and you'd realise that isn't the publics opinion

[DomBFC1882]

What are you talking about? The people voting are the British public.

No they are the public who watch the BBC, stop lying to yourself. I know many people who don't pay their TV licence because of the ****. Stop pretending we all watch their lies

[DomBFC1882]

But...I didn't mention Fury.

Correct you mentioned rashford, I mentioned fury

[DomBFC1882]

I sense this thread going downhill..as i feared any thread about SPOTY might

Nothing personal from me bud and it never will be

[Steve1956]

No they are the public who watch the BBC, stop lying to yourself. I know many people who don't pay their TV licence because of the ****. Stop pretending we all watch their lies

Are you one of those people in denial that covid is for real

[Rileybobs]

No they are the public who watch the BBC, stop lying to yourself. I know many people who don't pay their TV licence because of the ****. Stop pretending we all watch their lies

I think you’ve lost the plot on this one.

[DomBFC1882]

Are you one of those people in denial that covid is for real

What's Covid got to do with anything? Oh and BTW the survival rate is over 99% so yeah its not that bad if you fancy starting something

[DomBFC1882]

I think you’ve lost the plot on this one.

I think you're talking nonsense as per

[Somethingfishy]

Nothing personal from me bud and it never will be

I wasn't accusing anyone in particular mate don't worry

[Steve1956]

What's Covid got to do with anything? Oh and BTW the survival rate is over 99% so yeah its not that bad if you fancy starting something

Forget it...your plssing into the wind!

[DomBFC1882]

Hey god I love this messageboard. Suppose it would be boring if we all thought the same

[DomBFC1882]

Forget it...your plssing into the wind!

Like your football talk Steve

[THEWELLERNUT70]

And the award for unlikeable tax dodging hypocrite goes to......

[yTib]

baldys arguing over a comb alert!!

[FactualFrank]

I really don’t know why you’d suggest that I think he’s faked his depression. It’s not a nice thing to suggest.

As per my post above, I like Fury and I admire his achievements in boxing. I am also capable of judging Hamilton (the most successful F1 driver of all time) by the same merits, unlike some other people. I just wonder what makes Fury more of a ‘real man’ than Fury.

It was down to your comment on being a barometer of being a ‘real person’.

That suggested that you thought of him as a fake. Which suggests everything he said about illness and depression was made up.

[Rileybobs]

It was down to your comment on being a barometer of being a ‘real person’.

That suggested that you thought of him as a fake. Which suggests everything he said about illness and depression was made up.

That’s not how it was intended and is a case of putting 2 and 2 together and making 5. I have admiration for Fury’s sporting achievements and his battle with mental health issues.

My point about him being a barometer of a real person was a flippant remark, but my point was that Fury is not really like your average person. He’s far from it, and in many ways that’s why people like, or in some cases dislike him.

What I don’t understand is why someone thinks that Fury is more of a ‘real man’ than Hamilton. I can understand why people may like one or the other, but that doesn’t take away from their respective sporting achievements.

[Wile E Coyote]

christ, what a dull programme, BBC doing its best to remain relevant in a world where nobody cares about these millionaire slobs.

[FactualFrank]

What I don’t understand is why someone thinks that Fury is more of a ‘real man’ than Hamilton. I can understand why people may like one or the other, but that doesn’t take away from their respective sporting achievements.

I think that last paragraph will depend on what sports people follow.

I'm a fan of boxing, and I listened to a lot of what Fury has said over the last few years. I don't believe that was down to make him more money - which would make him less of a man.

He came out and made a lot of people aware of what can be a hidden illness. What people from the outside can see as a hidden illness.

He made an appearance on the J Ross Show last night - I bet he helped over 1000 people.

I just think he's offered a lot more dimensions as a person than Hamilton and offered more as a human.

[Rileybobs]

I think that last paragraph will depend on what sports people follow.

I'm a fan of boxing, and I listened to a lot of what Fury has said over the last few years. I don't believe that was down to make him more money - which would make him less of a man.

He came out and made a lot of people aware of what can be a hidden illness. What people from the outside can see as a hidden illness.

He made an appearance on the J Ross Show last night - I bet he helped over 1000 people.

I just think he's offered a lot more dimensions as a person than Hamilton and offered more as a human.

But that doesn’t make Fury more of a ‘real man’ does it? It’s not Hamilton’s fault that he doesn’t, as far as we know, suffer from mental health issues. This is an award based on sporting achievements. You don’t want awards handed out to people based on their disadvantages do you?

It’s great that Fury has spoken out about his issues, and if that has helped people in a similar position then that’s fantastic. But this is an award that the general public vote for, so the most popular person wins. In this case that person is Hamilton.

FYI, I don’t care about the award and didn’t watch the show, I just find it interesting to read people’s reasoning behind who they think deserves to win.

[FactualFrank]

But that doesn’t make Fury more of a ‘real man’ does it? It’s not Hamilton’s fault that he doesn’t, as far as we know, suffer from mental health issues. This is an award based on sporting achievements. You don’t want awards handed out to people based on their disadvantages do you?

It’s great that Fury has spoken out about his issues, and if that has helped people in a similar position then that’s fantastic. But this is an award that the general public vote for, so the most popular person wins. In this case that person is Hamilton.

FYI, I don’t care about the award and didn’t watch the show, I just find it interesting to read people’s reasoning behind who they think deserves to win.

It totally depends on what your definition of a "real man" is.

Ask a woman and a real man is someone who can do the kitchen for them. There is no universal definition.

[Rileybobs]

It totally depends on what your definition of a "real man" is.

Ask a woman and a real man is someone who can do the kitchen for them. There is no universal definition.

Well yeah. I suppose the point I’m getting at is that ‘real man’ is a ridiculous phrase with which to characterise someone. I wouldn’t say someone who doesn’t watch the BBC is more of a real man than someone who does, but hey ho.

In any case, Hamilton was the public’s choice. And we know how important democracy is.

[FactualFrank]

Well yeah. I suppose the point I’m getting at is that ‘real man’ is a ridiculous phrase with which to characterise someone. I wouldn’t say someone who doesn’t watch the BBC is more of a real man than someone who does, but hey ho.

In any case, Hamilton was the public’s choice. And we know how important democracy is.

Very true. I agree with you in the main and I'm not really that bothered who won.
I'm a big Ronnie fan, but motor racing is a much bigger sport than snooker so I guess he always had a bigger share in the voting chance.

It would have been nice for Ronnie to win it, but I bet he was in a very similar camp to Tyson Fury - he knows who he is and doesn't need the award to show anything else.

[Rileybobs]

Very true. I agree with you in the main and I'm not really that bothered who won.
I'm a big Ronnie fan, but motor racing is a much bigger sport than snooker so I guess he always had a bigger share in the voting chance.

It would have been nice for Ronnie to win it, but I bet he was in a very similar camp to Tyson Fury - he knows who he is and doesn't need the award to show anything else.

Has Ronnie ever won SPOTY? The snooker used to get huge viewing figures but maybe his dominance began too late in the day.

[RammyClaret61]

Something I would’ve dearly loved to go to 20-30 years ago. Same with Question of Sport. But now, didnt even know it was happening till saw this thread. If I’d known, I wouldn’t even have made the effort to click the remote onto it.

[FactualFrank]

Has Ronnie ever won SPOTY? The snooker used to get huge viewing figures but maybe his dominance began too late in the day.

You're kidding. His dominance began years ago!

[Rileybobs]

You're kidding. His dominance began years ago!

What I mean is that the viewing figures and subsequent popularity were bigger in the days of Hendry and White etc. It doesn’t seem like as many people tune into the snooker as they used to.

[FactualFrank]

It doesn’t seem like as many people tune into the snooker as they used to.

I agree with this, which of course goes against him. F1 is more popular, so they don't see Ronnie's wins.

[Woodleyclaret]

Maybe tax exile Lewis has actually done something for those less well off than himself and kept it secret
Marcus Rashford has been outstanding in his work with child food poverty and deserves all his plaudits.The SPOTY is awarded by sports fans ,this year petrolheads won.

[pushpinpussy]

Lets be honest. After what has happened this year there was only going to be one winner.

[claretonthecoast1882]

I hope he dedicated his award to the worthy personality winner.. his car

[Claretmisterg]

I’m not a big fan of motor sport but I do think that Hamilton matching Schumachers 7 world titles qualifies as the stand out British sporting achievement of the year. Fair play.

[evensteadiereddie]

Hamilton wins, infuriates the anti-BBC/pro Tyson mob and WBA get thumped. Not a bad night at all.

[evensteadiereddie]

Hamilton wins, infuriates the anti-BBC/pro Tyson mob and WBA get thumped. Not a bad night at all.

[Rileybobs]

Lewis Hamilton is one of the top 5000 UK tax payers. Why are people ignoring this fact? Is he not free to live in a country of his choice?