São Paulo Grand Prix, controversy already

[taio]

Anything but boring so far

[claretburns]

Great race so far, Interlagos always entertains, pit stops have gone the way of Mercedes.

[Bosscat]

Great race so far, Interlagos always entertains, pit stops have gone the way of Mercedes.

But Tarkys_ears says its booooorrrring

[Lowbankclaret]

Going to be a two stop race this.
Hamilton done great so far.
Lando a good race after a puncture on the start.

[Roosterbooster]

I wonder if Bottas could sneak a 1 stop and hold some people up. He stopped quite a bit later

[Roosterbooster]

Oh. Well what do I know

[claretburns]

After the first stint and Hamilton struggling in the air behind Verstappen, you would think if the tyres are looked after then Verstappen should have this race.

[jos]

Getting feisty now

[claretburns]

Whether today or in another race this season, there is going to be another big incident between the two.

[minnieclaret]

Dreadful decision by the stewards. Verstappen makes that corner every lap but when LH is passing him he is 10yds off track forcing LH onto the really dirty stuff.
Should have got a stop & go.

[Colburn_Claret]

Mercedes getting robbed here. How they can deem nothing to investigate after Verstappen ran Hamimton off the track is ridiculous.

[Lowbankclaret]

Great drive from Hamilton.
Championship still on.

[Mrpotatohead]

Justice is done and Hamilton showing yet again why he is one of the best ever!

[Bosscat]

Get in Lewis what a drive ... just keep it on the tarmac buddy ....

[Zlatan]

Fantastic to know UTC forum has so many vastly experienced F1 drivers who know what it’s like to drive on a dirty line whilst defending the lead of a race

[Burnley1989]

Fantastic race! Best F1 season for a long time

[jos]

Wanted Verstappen to win, but fantastic race win by Lewis.

[Bosscat]

Drive of the season by Hamilton ...

Fantastic

[Steve1956]

Try everything you can to hinder him demote him to last, ,turn a blind eye to him being run off the track, it didn't work shame on the stewards for that 1 quite simply the greatest F1 driver ever ...from last to first well played Lewis

[The Enclosure]

Some drive that...well done Lewis.

[Roosterbooster]

Fantastic to know UTC forum has so many vastly experienced F1 drivers who know what it’s like to drive on a dirty line whilst defending the lead of a race

TBF I haven't heard anyone on Sky Sports suggest anything other than Max was extremely lucky not to be penalised there. Either he pushed Lewis off on purpose, or he broke too late to try and hold position and couldn't hold the corner as a result. He therefore gained an advantage as a result.

[Lowbankclaret]

Try everything you can to hinder him demote him to last, ,turn a blind eye to him being run off the track, it didn't work shame on the stewards for that 1 quite simply the greatest F1 driver ever ...from last to first well played Lewis

His car failed the scrutinising rules , in most motor racing you would be ruled out of racing. F1 however being big business means his car could be fixed.
They both went off the track, normal standard decision by the stewards.
Great overtaking and a great win for Lewis.
In years gone by I would be cheering, until he became the new gangsters style F1 driver who pays no taxes and tells us we should do.

[Bosscat]

Try everything you can to hinder him demote him to last, ,turn a blind eye to him being run off the track, it didn't work shame on the stewards for that 1 quite simply the greatest F1 driver ever ...from last to first well played Lewis

They tried to take it away from him by hook or by crook ... but Lewis H drove like the 7 times World Champion he is and was victorious in Interlagos ...

Funny how the steering telemetry wasn't shown or footage from the cockpit cam showing him turning the wheel yet it was obvious Verstappen drove Lewis off the track by the Sky Cameras ... The F1 stewards tried their damndest but failed

But hey ho its over and the best man won

Lewis Hamilton come on lets have an 8th Championship

[Lowbankclaret]

TBF I haven't heard anyone on Sky Sports suggest anything other than Max was extremely lucky not to be penalised there. Either he pushed Lewis off on purpose, or he broke too late to try and hold position and couldn't hold the corner as a result. He therefore gained an advantage as a result.

Lewis was never going to stay on track.
If Max had and Lewis had got past he would have had to give it back.
Correct decision for me.
Lewis was faster and got past in the end.
Great race.

[taio]

Fantastic to know UTC forum has so many vastly experienced F1 drivers who know what it’s like to drive on a dirty line whilst defending the lead of a race

The opinions of those on here you refer to are in keeping with former f1 drivers who are expressing their view on the incident.

[minnieclaret]

the new gangsters style F1 driver who pays no taxes and tells us we should do.

Why does this upset so many on here? Politicians, businessmen, musicians, actors all take care of their wealth by tax residency. He lives in Monaco, lucky guy I say.
Is it cos he am black is my thinking.

[RVclaret]

Outstanding from the GOAT once again.

[Steve1956]

Fantastic to know UTC forum has so many vastly experienced F1 drivers who know what it’s like to drive on a dirty line whilst defending the lead of a race

Which F1 team did you drive for Zlat?

[Bosscat]

Why does this upset so many on here? Politicians, businessmen, musicians, actors all take care of their wealth by tax residency. He lives in Monaco, lucky guy I say.
Is it cos he am black is my thinking.

Max Verstappen also resides in Monaco ... has done since 2015 ... funny how nobody seems to mention this while decrying Hamilton for doing so

[CrosspoolClarets]

Very simple, if you emigrate and live in a tax haven you don’t have the right to wade in and lecture or virtue signal those living back in the UK. That’s the distinction and why Lewis has upset a lot of people.

Did fantastic today though. Once he sticks to his racing he is phenomenal.

[Winstonswhite]

Very simple, if you emigrate and live in a tax haven you don’t have the right to wade in and lecture or virtue signal those living back in the UK. That’s the distinction and why Lewis has upset a lot of people.

Did fantastic today though. Once he sticks to his racing he is phenomenal.

He pays tax in the UK as well as elsewhere.

[Burnley1989]

Very simple, if you emigrate and live in a tax haven you don’t have the right to wade in and lecture or virtue signal those living back in the UK. That’s the distinction and why Lewis has upset a lot of people.

Did fantastic today though. Once he sticks to his racing he is phenomenal.

A lot of people? Nah, very small group

[Lowbankclaret]

Why does this upset so many on here? Politicians, businessmen, musicians, actors all take care of their wealth by tax residency. He lives in Monaco, lucky guy I say.
Is it cos he am black is my thinking.

No,
Many F1 drivers and ex drivers live in tax free Monaco.
But only one tells us what he thinks we should do.
It’s his hypocrisy I don’t like.
His colour is irrelevant.

For many years I was a massive supporter of his, his driving abilities are beyond debate, as seen this weekend.

[Bigvince]

A lot of people? Nah, very small group

The vocal minority!

[NewClaret]

Great race.

I think they said that is only the third time a driver has gone from 10th to 1st in an F1 race. If you watched it, you’ve just watched a historic race. Whether it turns out to be pivotal or not remains to be seen. I still think Max will win it from a 14pt lead, but it makes it much more interesting.

[Burnley Ace]

No,
Many F1 drivers and ex drivers live in tax free Monaco.
But only one tells us what he thinks we should do.
It’s his hypocrisy I don’t like.
His colour is irrelevant.

For many years I was a massive supporter of his, his driving abilities are beyond debate, as seen this weekend.

Is t income earned in the UK taxed in the UK? In which case he has paid substantially more tax than you and therefore, by your logic, has more right to comment on the UK than you.

[Lowbankclaret]

Is t income earned in the UK taxed in the UK? In which case he has paid substantially more tax than you and therefore, by your logic, has more right to comment on the UK than you.

He does not pay UK tax, even though he is employed by a UK based company.

[minnieclaret]

Back to the race.
Did anybody notice the final time gap between Verstappen and Bottas? He closed him down dramatically over the last 5 laps. I was wondering if they were trying to get within 5 secs and possibly appeal the no penalty against Max.

[Lowbankclaret]

Back to the race.
Did anybody notice the final time gap between Verstappen and Bottas? He closed him down dramatically over the last 5 laps. I was wondering if they were trying to get within 5 secs and possibly appeal the no penalty against Max.

Good spot, but after watching F1 for 40 years I don’t think it’s contentious enough for anything to happen.

[Burnley Ace]

He does not pay UK tax, even though he is employed by a UK based company.

He has to pay tax on his earnings in the Uk.

according to the HMRC statistics, published in 2019, Hamilton was among the top 5,000 highest taxpayers in the UK despite living abroad for most of his racing career,

Just google it.

[tiger76]

A stunning victory by Hamilton, and that's why he'll go down as one of if not the all time greatest.

And if he does yet claim his 8th championship that will surely end any debate as to who is the GOAT.

[RVclaret]

He has to pay tax on his earnings in the Uk.

according to the HMRC statistics, published in 2019, Hamilton was among the top 5,000 highest taxpayers in the UK despite living abroad for most of his racing career,

Just google it.

Shh don’t let facts get in the way of the narrative…

[Bosscat]

He has to pay tax on his earnings in the Uk.

according to the HMRC statistics, published in 2019, Hamilton was among the top 5,000 highest taxpayers in the UK despite living abroad for most of his racing career,

Just google it.

Its OK BA some on here won't let the truth get in the way of a good story

[Lowbankclaret]

He has to pay tax on his earnings in the Uk.

according to the HMRC statistics, published in 2019, Hamilton was among the top 5,000 highest taxpayers in the UK despite living abroad for most of his racing career,

Just google it.

Reading between the lines he pays tax on any winnings from the British GP. Very big of him. He avoids paying as much tax as he can.
Still deserves his knighthood.

[claretburns]

A great F1 season, a great F1 race with a superb drive by arguably the greatest F1 driver of all time and someone us Brits should be proud of but yet another thread goes the way of bickering and off topic petty comments between posters.

The thread is regarding the Brazilian Grand Prix, not how much F1 drivers pay in tax, with any comments can we stick to the topic or the race?

It becomes very tedious reading through interesting threads but having to wade through all the rubbish.

[Rileybobs]

Reading between the lines he pays tax on any winnings from the British GP. Very big of him. He avoids paying as much tax as he can.
Still deserves his knighthood.

Hamilton, like the rest of us, can choose to live outside of the UK if he pleases. I wonder if you’re being any way hypocritical though. You post your financial ‘advice’ on here quite frequently, do you not take any measures to reduce the amount of tax that you pay?

[NewClaret]

A stunning victory by Hamilton, and that's why he'll go down as one of if not the all time greatest.

And if he does yet claim his 8th championship that will surely end any debate as to who is the GOAT.

100% tiger.

And to be fair, has had some bad luck throughout his career - he could have won his debut season and narrowly lost out.

[Steve1956]

Hamilton is quite simply the greatest F1 driver of all time, who are his rivals? Schumacher..? No he cheated his way to at least two world titles....Senna? ..probably his closest rival for GOAT,.....Prost? ....naw....going any further back in time isn't worth thinking about....
1.Hamilton
2.Senna
3.Schumacher
And I don't care where he lives!

[Bosscat]

Hamilton, like the rest of us, can choose to live outside of the UK if he pleases. I wonder if you’re being any way hypocritical though. You post your financial ‘advice’ on here quite frequently, do you not take any measures to reduce the amount of tax that you pay?

Ouch ..... You been in the knife drawer again Rileyb m8

[Rileybobs]

Ouch ..... You been in the knife drawer again Rileyb m8

Not really. I’m just curious as to whether Lowbank takes any measures to minimise the tax he pays, considering that most people do and that is what he’s criticising Hamilton for.