The management

[burnleymik]

Well that worked well....

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[Murger]

I know it's as bad as it's been under Sean at the moment but after all he's done for us I can't bring myself to turn on him

So you're happy to just let it carry on?

[BLH_Claret]

World record ....................... as 1032 on line on UTC at 2.32 pm .

Just go's to show people love bad news

When was the last time there was good news? Open your eyes.

[bf2k]

Mr Garlick stopped this squad developing in a normal way. No one else.
Self funding exercise. Despicable.

Agreed, 100%

[Andreshotboots]

I've said previously Dyche is in danger of turning into the new Wenger.

Worked wonders for their respective clubs, but sometimes you can just stay too long and the players get used to your methods, and have heard all the tactics and bollockings before.

This just seems us at the minute, very very stale and just not at the races. Of course the contract situation of many of the players certainly doesn't help, but we've allowed the contracts to get into these situations in the first place..

[alwaysaclaret]

Still has my backing i have to say

We all have our opinions of course, and this is as has been stated on quite a number of occasions a forum on which to discuss Burnley FC and other issues we may wish to talk about. So my question is, although hypothetical, if we were to continue in the same vein and fail to win another game this season, and at the moment I can't see where a next win is coming from, would your thoughts still be the same in terms of backing the manager, just curious ?

[warksclaret]

We dont need a change at present-but what is needed is a REACTION from our manager, a bit more honesty and to get the best 11 starting

[BabylonClaret]

We started with 2 full England internationals and hundreds of Premier League starts between the other 9 players. The managers catchphrases,The legs, hearts, minds, eye of the tiger has completely gone from this side.

Let's be honest it had pretty much gone from midway through last year. Without some dramatic changes my fear is for our Championship status after next season. Too many people at that club who feel untouchable, and the manager is one of them..

Sorry - Pope and Tarkowski are hardly regulars. And both struggling form wise anyway (popes just back from illness). But when you are playing playing 2 right sided players on the left because you've no other option it's going to be a rough day.

Charlie Taylor at LB or Pieters and they don't equalise.

I'm not saying we weren't poor or that we couldn't try out one or two younger players but clearly our u23 players are miles off it.

This though is a huge body blow for us - iys not like we chucked in a side loaded with youth - we clearly wanted to win but failed. That is a massive blow to the psyche.

[Norman]

Burnley aren't interested in the FA cup, and the majority of fans arent either.

It's not about that though.

Had we been mid-table and looking for top 10, most would have taken this on the chin, with little complaints.

It's the fact this has been added to an already dismal run.

[BLH_Claret]

We dont need a change at present-but what is needed is a REACTION from our manager, a bit more honesty and to get the best 11 starting

You’re right, it’s all going swimmingly this season…. I despair. What will it actually take for some to open their eyes. Dyche is not a girlfriend that you’re thinking of leaving, he’s a highly paid professional who is currently failing at the task he’s paid a fortune to perform.

[Andreshotboots]

You’re right, it’s all going swimmingly this season…. I despair. What will it actually take for some to open their eyes. Dyche is not a girlfriend that you’re thinking of leaving, he’s a highly paid professional who is currently failing at the task he’s paid a fortune to perform.

Has been doing for 16 months..

[Targetman]

A month ago I'd have agreed with you, maybe even a week ago, but the whole club is on a massive downward spiral right now, and I honestly can't see us turning it around.

Now whether another manager could do better with this motley crew I have my doubts, but as we're almost certainly heading for the Championship, it seems an ideal time to have a total reset and move the older OOC players on, as Palace have done under PV, and get some youth injected into our set-up.

Unfortunately it'll probably take until the end of the season before we can do this overhaul, but based on that display against a decent Championship side in Huddersfield we won't be making an immediate return to the PL next season anyway, even if SD remains at the helm. so for me a change is needed come May.

Just curious.....how many Burnley games have you attended this season?

[alboclaret]

I know it's as bad as it's been under Sean at the moment but after all he's done for us I can't bring myself to turn on him

You dont have to turn on him, he's been great for this club but and people will be forever greatful but things come to a end.

You can hang on with relationships for too long and it ends in a mess. ... something has to give soon.

[Cubanforever]

So you're happy to just let it carry on?

Obviously not happy but you could accuse me of being sentimental and loyal....or stupid...take your pick

[GeorgeBoydsHeadBand]

Those players who played today are all so called experienced players, who should if nothing else apply themselves. Application, effort, desire and commitment has to be the minimum.
There has been nothing that comes near to that for sometime from our players. The buck stops with the manager.
It’s time for a new direction.

[arise_sir_charge]

Four more years four more years anti football,

Four more years four more years I say,

Four more years four more years anti football,

Playing football the Sean Dyche way!





FFS, give me strength.

[tiger76]

Just curious.....how many Burnley games have you attended this season?

None as I rarely do attend matches, why does that mean I can't form an opinion about our current malaise.

I do hope to get down to a match once restrictions start easing, and if I lived locally I would likely attend fairly often, but just because I don't attend doesn't mean I don't care about our fortunes.

And even a blind man on a galloping horse can see that something has to radically change, yes SD has been brilliant for BFC, but good things eventually have to come to an end, and I sincerely hope Sean bows out before things start turning ugly, as he wouldn't deserve that after the past 9 years of memories.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Cornet, Collins and Roberts are three new first choice players, sign another three now or in summer and that is six out of ten. More than half a team.

If things are stale and players have heard the same guy for too long, changing the manager is one of two options - changing the players is another.

[RMutt]

I honestly don’t think a new manager would get any better out of this squad. Even if we recruited a new progressive and up and coming young manager, would he be able to say, ‘now Ashley,Arron, Johann, etc etc, when you get the ball I want you to run at the opposition, beat them for pace and open up their defence’?
This is a squad that is suffering through lack of recruitment when it desperately needed it, It’s been crying out for speed and inventiveness for far too long. Even to pass the ball past the opposition you need to be moving quickly across the ground. Leeds were technically no better than us but out played us with speed and physicality.
It’s difficult because we have never really had the finances to compete in the Premier League. I suppose creative recruitment of young new talent might have helped but that is a long term strategy that we’ve not had since the seventies.
It’s Dyche’s squad and only he can use it effectively I’m my opinion.
He has to stay.

[claretgimmer]

Merlin couldn`t magic this woeful bunch into a decent team, not even capable of some of the basics anymore, we look bodily weak, poor ball retention, disorganised going forward, baron in front of goal, continually buying over the hill journeymen looking for a final payday alongside the ageing regulars and we are where we are. People seem to want to lay the blame entirely at Garlicks feet but Dyche could have paid the same price for some potential younger players from the lower leagues who would have had the hunger to prove themselves good enough to play at a higher level, he could have treated players like Vydra better because there have been plenty of opportunities for him to have had more game time but Dyche chose to persist with the old guard playing crap then give him ten minutes here and there. We have woefully lacked creativity this season and we have in our ranks a player who had many assists last season but we have persisted with a right winger who has contributed virtually zero, we have a right back who to be fair has had a good season defensively but not done a lot in the chances created column but even when not ill could play for Wales but not good enough to start wherever for us. We really do need new eyes to look at this squad, we need a management team that can change things during the course of a game when things aren`t working out other than like for like subs. Based on these points I feel a new manager and management team is imperative if we are to have the faintest chance of survival with a transfer window still available, and as for those who say to us ` well who would you get` the answer is I have my opinions but I`m sure there are people better equipped than me to know who would suit us, remember nobody mentioned the name Dyche prior to his appointment.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Brian Laws 3 wins in 18 league games

Dyche 1 win in 26 league games

[TsarBomba]

Brian Laws 3 wins in 18 league games

Dyche 1 win in 26 league games

I’d wager, quite comfortably, that there is no other manager in the entire football pyramid that would survive a record like that without being potted. Remarkable.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

I’m trying to find stats of the worse managers in the leagues history… paul jewel had no wins in 24 and was sacked. Mick McCartney I think had 2 in 37 and was sacked.

If the board aren’t worried about these stats (I don’t think they actually get football) then we are doomed.

Let’s see what we offer next week. I’ll still be getting behind the lads but the old saying goes … the stats don’t lie.

[Flixtonclaret1]

Given all the hype about our Home Nations partnerships with Portadown and Ayr United have we seen any players identified or is it still work in progress?

[Darnhill Claret]

1 win in 26 isn't true though is it?

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Sorry it’s 1 win in 20

2 wins in 25

[Blatherwickstattoo]

The only teams we’ve beaten in the last 25 games are Fulham and Brentford

[tiger76]

1 win in 26 isn't true though is it?

Simply counting PL games it's 1 win in 20, and that's a damning stat however you dice it.

But what worries me more is the lack of fight from our mainstays, if we go down we go down, it was always likely to happen sooner or later, but it's the manner of the defeats which is becoming increasingly demoralising, and if anything we've got even worse over the past month, at least in some of our early season performances you could see signs of hope, but the way we've rolled over at Leeds, Newcastle, and now tamely exited the cup today, hardly inspires confidence that we can suddenly turn this dire form around.

[Pearcey]

My only glimmer of hope is that we go through this most seasons. Has he lost the dressing room, the players aren’t interested etc. We then go on a run and finish comfortably.

It is only a glimmer though as I really can’t see where a win is coming from.

[claretgimmer]

People are saying Dyche has earned the right to try and bring us back if we go down, well sorry no he hasn`t, he`s done a great job that he has been handsomely paid for, now he is being handsomely paid for inept management techniques, his recent record and performances doesn`t suggest he should be anywhere near the managers office next season irrespective of which division we`re in

[Blatherwickstattoo]

I’m no body language expert but I’d say there’s something not right with at least 90% of that squad. You lose your dressing room you’re as good as buried.

As I’ve said before the only teams we’ve beat in the last 25 are a more or less relegated Fulham and a newly promoted Brentford. We aren’t competing like a premier league team.

[Blatherwickstattoo]

Xisco Munoz P7 W2 D1 L4 PPM 1
Steve Bruce P8 W0 D3 L5 PPM 0.38
Nuno Espirito Santo P10 W5 D0 L5 PPM1.5
Daniel Farke P11 W1 D2 L8 PPM 0.45
Dean Smith (Now Norwich) P19 W4 D3 L12 PPM 0.79
Solskjaer P12 W5 D2 L5 PPM 1.42

So far

Sean Dyche P17 W1 D8 L8 PPM 0.65

[AlargeClaret]

When a manager is allowed to think he is unsackable/untouchable, you have a massive problem.

When no investment is put into the club for 3 yrs you have a massive problem . We’re reaping what we sowed noting more and nothing less .

[RVclaret]

How can Dyche be sacked when he has a £3m a year contract with 3.5 years left?

Couldn’t afford it

[SouthLondonexile]

The most disappointing thing for me is taking the lead early on only to see the opposition go on to win it.
There’s been a pattern here throughout this season.

[warksclaret]

I’m no body language expert but I’d say there’s something not right with at least 90% of that squad. You lose your dressing room you’re as good as buried.

As I’ve said before the only teams we’ve beat in the last 25 are a more or less relegated Fulham and a newly promoted Brentford. We aren’t competing like a premier league team.

Agree-the "connection" between players and Manager has vanished. And the manager keeps spouting belief in the players, and saying we have been there before. We need to start playing our best 11 when they are all fit, that means Roberts & Collins starting and the manager for once making some big decisions as to who gets dropped. At present everyone appears "undroppable"

[Vino blanco]

I’ve backed Dyche, but not always his style of football, and when we go down I would be prepared to see him try to succeed in the Championship. However, for the first time I have to say, if he were to leave the club tomorrow I wouldn’t be too concerned.

[gandhisflipflop]

How can Dyche be sacked when he has a £3m a year contract with 3.5 years left?

Couldn’t afford it

But we can afford 15m players? It would cost about 10m to sack him.

[RVclaret]

But we can afford 15m players? It would cost about 10m to sack him.

10m a fair bit of money for us just to be sacking someone. We will be lucky to see a 10m signing this window I’d think. Either Dyche walks himself when we go down or there’s a release clause in his contract to sack him at a lower rate.