Pace Out?

[bfcjg]

FFS the only chance of survival this season is fans,management, owners and players pulling in the same direction,I am sure Pace doesn't want to be labelled a failure in the business world if it goes tits up here. I will let my vitriol rip if and as it looks like when we drop. Had a belly full of Bob Lord out, Teasdalenout etc and the toxic atmosphere it created, not sure I want another spell of it, I'd sooner pack it in and watch semi professional football.

[Andreshotboots]

I think the reason he's not spent all of the Wood money this window as he's agreed to save it so MG can use the cash as part of a leveraged re-takeover...

[Sottpark1 !]

Great post Colburn , keep the faith ..

[arise_sir_charge]

I posted on a thread yesterday that one of the most tedious arguments in this board is the “who would you have signed then” stance.

I’ve just realised that it’s futility is only beaten by “go and support City or United then”.

Jesus wept.

[Targetman]

I wonder how many of the 'Pace Out' and 'Dyche Out' crowd (on here) go on the Turf? Not many, is my guess. You only have to look at their time stamp (on their posts while we are playing) to realise this. And yes, of course you can post on your phone while actually being there, but given the amount of posts they make, they can't spend much time looking at what's going on at pitch level, that's if they really are there, which I doubt.

Some of these posters have stated in the past that they don't go to games but insist they are "supporters" because they watch on tv or on illegal streams.
One of the these people insists he can see more of the game on his tv so he is able give a more accurate description of the team's failings!

As everyone knows, these people only appear on this message board when things aren't going well.
I know it's difficult at times but it's best to ignore these people who try to discredit our club and it's staff at every opportunity.

It has been said on here before, the people who don't actually go to games seem to shout the loudest.

[BLH_Claret]

I posted on a thread yesterday that one of the most tedious arguments in this board is the “who would you have signed then” stance.

I’ve just realised that it’s futility is only beaten by “go and support City or United then”.

Jesus wept.

It’s just a way of trying to shut people down. The nuclear option on this is to accuse someone of libellous comments knowing that most are unsure what this constitutes and to plant a seed. It’s purely to stifle opposing views.

[NewClaret]

A couple of canny loans yesterday with obligations to buy/bonuses on survival could have made the difference without lumbering us with burdens we cannot afford to sustain if relegated. This isn't 'living in a bygone era' it's financially sound thinking rather than betting the ranch on something that has no guarantee of working whatsoever.

Agreed but who could we have loaned?

Origi, Barkley, Lingard stayed put - probably didn’t want to be here, possibly denied moves from their clubs. Alli went for £40m to a bigger club.

Hard to know who we could’ve realistically loaned even though I was hoping for a couple.

[Lancasterclaret]

It’s just a way of trying to shut people down. The nuclear option on this is to accuse someone of libellous comments knowing that most are unsure what this constitutes and to plant a seed. It’s purely to stifle opposing views.

Nah, the libellous comments are from people who genuinely think they can say what they want about people on a public messageboard, without realising that the people who run the board would also get into trouble

They have to be deleted, and deleted fast, and the poster warned, if not banned

Its 100% the right thing to do

Basically, if it sounds dodgy, then don't say it

[jedi_master]

Some of these posters have stated in the past that they don't go to games but insist they are "supporters" because they watch on tv or on illegal streams.
One of the these people insists he can see more of the game on his tv so he is able give a more accurate description of the team's failings!

As everyone knows, these people only appear on this message board when things aren't going well.
I know it's difficult at times but it's best to ignore these people who try to discredit our club and it's staff at every opportunity.

It has been said on here before, the people who don't actually go to games seem to shout the loudest.

I think we all know the 1, perhaps 2 posters you’re referring to with this and I get your points made entirely.

It is, however, the case that plenty of people are concerned about ALK who do go to Turf Moor. I have been a S/T holder since 1999 and do a 5 hour round trip to Turf Moor, but I am still concerned what relegation could (could absolutely being the operative word!) bring. The newspaper articles have worried me.

Concerns about their ownership don’t dampen my enthusiasm for the club or my excitement at finally having a home game on Saturday. The two are separate issues entirely, for me anyway.

[Boss Hogg]

It’s just a way of trying to shut people down. The nuclear option on this is to accuse someone of libellous comments knowing that most are unsure what this constitutes and to plant a seed. It’s purely to stifle opposing views.

[NewClaret]

Alexa - show me a thread on my favourite football team forum that is a reason why I don't frequent it as much as I used to...

I’d noticed that Zlatan. You’re contributions were valued by me at least and missed.

I’m thinking the same.

[Stockbrokerbelt]

Some of these posters have stated in the past that they don't go to games but insist they are "supporters" because they watch on tv or on illegal streams.
One of the these people insists he can see more of the game on his tv so he is able give a more accurate description of the team's failings!

As everyone knows, these people only appear on this message board when things aren't going well.
I know it's difficult at times but it's best to ignore these people who try to discredit our club and it's staff at every opportunity.

It has been said on here before, the people who don't actually go to games seem to shout the loudest.

Well said & its getting a complete joke, some of them actually believe what they say & think they know better than the chairman & manager. Like kids who did not get their presents at xmas. We have been beaten by the odd goal with our attack not firing, just think on a positive that if it does we can stay up, difficult i know but very possible.

[jedi_master]

Agreed but who could we have loaned?

Origi, Barkley, Lingard stayed put - probably didn’t want to be here, possibly denied moves from their clubs. Alli went for £40m to a bigger club.

Hard to know who we could’ve realistically loaned even though I was hoping for a couple.

I just can’t accept that there were not options out there for us on a loan basis. It’s hard for me to think names up, Barkley was the obvious and it seems we were in for him.

Amad Diallo from United before he went to Rangers might have been a good early window option for the wing role for one. Minamino went to Southampton last season so he might have been up for it (questionable how ‘good’ he is, but certainly an option). Less exciting but certainly might have been more attainable would be the likes of Walcott from Southampton, Delph from Everton and maybe Chodhoury from Leicester.

[BLH_Claret]

Circumstances **** on us with the late collapse for Orsic, and fate deemed that Ramsey would rather have an easy life in Glasgow, than work for his money down here.

Or perhaps this shows the folly of seeming to have all your eggs in the one basket. Hoping that said egg will change his mind when he has no other offers and sign for a club he’s clearly got very little interest in joining. Then in come Rangers, signed, sealed and delivered within 12 hours. Where was plan B? It appears to have been like a game of poker, hoping Ramsey would blink at the last minute but Rangers blew us away and we appeared to be shocked and left chasing our tails. Orsic, unlucky, perhaps but many could see it was taking too long and again, where was plan B? Where was the planning for what if?

[claretandbluesky]

Who’s going to replace Pace?
Yes recruitment this window was poor and still not directed at the right targets but at least their is sign of a little more ambition in the European market which has to be welcomed.

[Stayingup]

Pace out? There are some weak hearted fanniers on here.

[BLH_Claret]

Thank you for your concise and well thought out response.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Nah, the libellous comments are from people who genuinely think they can say what they want about people on a public messageboard, without realising that the people who run the board would also get into trouble

They have to be deleted, and deleted fast, and the poster warned, if not banned

Its 100% the right thing to do

Basically, if it sounds dodgy, then don't say it

There are those who think you can say anything online and it is fine, as shown with the stupid comment you replied to.

[NewClaret]

I just can’t accept that there were not options out there for us on a loan basis. It’s hard for me to think names up, Barkley was the obvious and it seems we were in for him.

Amad Diallo from United before he went to Rangers might have been a good early window option for the wing role for one. Minamino went to Southampton last season so he might have been up for it (questionable how ‘good’ he is, but certainly an option). Less exciting but certainly might have been more attainable would be the likes of Walcott from Southampton, Delph from Everton and maybe Chodhoury from Leicester.

Of our combined lists, I think there’s only Lingard I could say would have dramatically improved us to the point I’d have been confident about survival. Beyond that I think Alli (unreachable financially), Barkley and Diablo (good call) would have been good additions. I’d have had some concerns about each though - fitness, form, our system, attitude and in Diallo’s case his willingness to contribute defensively. The others I think are just bodies. I don’t think they move the needle at all.

All that said it is worth remembering that us identifying options and them wanting to join are different things. By all accounts we were in for Lingard, Ramsey (who Pace spoke to) and Barkley but none of them wanted to come here. I’m hoping it’s Barkley who said yes last minute because it’d be awful to think it was Lingard!

[Colburn_Claret]

I think we all know the 1, perhaps 2 posters you’re referring to with this and I get your points made entirely.

It is, however, the case that plenty of people are concerned about ALK who do go to Turf Moor. I have been a S/T holder since 1999 and do a 5 hour round trip to Turf Moor, but I am still concerned what relegation could (could absolutely being the operative word!) bring. The newspaper articles have worried me.

Concerns about their ownership don’t dampen my enthusiasm for the club or my excitement at finally having a home game on Saturday. The two are separate issues entirely, for me anyway.

I don't think we should all be singing from the same hymn sheet Jedi. I said earlier its all about opinion.
It's the vitriol, and total lack of any rationality that certain posters use, that just leads to acrimony. There's no need for that kind of post, it doesn't serve any positive purpose. If we are all Clarets we should all be behind the team. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but once that windows shut all that matters is the Watford game.
Bemoaning about transfers, when nobody including me, knows the full story of what our ambitions were is pointless. I believe AP did his best, and just like the team, as long as they do their best, they deserve our backing. It might not always be successful, just like it isn't always on the pitch, but so long as he did his best AP deserves our support. We were oh so close to this being another very good window, just as the summer window was. But that's life.
As for the financial side of it, I have no idea, in that area my faith is blind, and it doesn't upset me that people voice their concerns about the future, it's their right. Just so long as they do it without the vitriol and the total lack of rationale.
Just so there is no misunderstanding, this last paragraph wasn't aimed at you Jedi, but the usual suspects.

[LoveCurryPies]

Rediculous thread!

I understand the disappointment but it’s not over yet. Still hope to see Newcastle relegated with their new signings.

If we do get relegated, let’s do it as a united club....keep Sean, make new signings in the summer and work towards promotion.

UTC!

[cblantfanclub]

"Certainly has lost the lions share of support of fans in an exceedingly quick amount of time." Jedi

So you are the spokesman for the majority then - quite a claim.I think you'll find most posts on here are from a surprisingly limited number of fans. Infact most posts on this board, admittedly on a quick spin through, appear to come from a poster in the NE who's surgically attached to his keyboard.

[wilks_bfc]

This window has been both frustrating and disappointing, but to blame Pace entirely for the situation we are in is ridiculous

If you bought a home that had been neglected but was livable, as much as you'd want to do everything at once you wouldn't be able to, especially if funds were limited

I think a lot of this reaction is down to the amount of name we were linked with (both realistic and those plucked from nowhere). Would there have been the same outcry on here if we had got Orsic?
I doubt Pace would have been flying across Europe to speak to him if there wasn't some indication he was willing to sign.

[NewClaret]

Some of these posters have stated in the past that they don't go to games but insist they are "supporters" because they watch on tv or on illegal streams.
One of the these people insists he can see more of the game on his tv so he is able give a more accurate description of the team's failings!

As everyone knows, these people only appear on this message board when things aren't going well.
I know it's difficult at times but it's best to ignore these people who try to discredit our club and it's staff at every opportunity.

It has been said on here before, the people who don't actually go to games seem to shout the loudest.

Yep it’s easy to spot the ones that never attend a game, and whilst I’m not one that thinks that gives a “fan” less right to an opinion about our club they claim to support, when it’s constant negativity that they post, it’s hard to couple the two and give their thoughts much credence.

I find it a bit strange they get so animated about something they watch through a screen, tbh. It’s not that it materially impacts their life as it would do a match going fan.

As you say, best ignored and I’m certainly trying not to engage with anything that perpetuates the toxicity.

[beeholeclaret]

I know everyone has the right to their opinion but there have been some absolutely shocking comments on here recently. The constant bickering is pointless really.

We could’ve done with a few more players but not as easy to get people to come to Burnley as we thought. If it’s any consolation I’ve just been reading comments from Newcastle fans saying similar. They are unhappy that Lingard refused to sign for them and they would’ve preferred Weghorst to Chris Wood! A lot of the so called big stars that we were supposedly interested in wouldn’t want to come and play in a tough relegation battle. Personally I’m glad Ramsey and Barkley didnt want to sign for Burnley although players of their ability are needed.

[Tribesmen]

Shocker of a thread

[CFS]

Everyone said give them time. I have. The club is a mess. Our squad is a joke. Any team that has Aaron Lennon as 1st team regular deserves to be relegated.

No more BS Pace. No more.

I'd add dinasour dyche to that list mate absolutely pathetic the lot of them.

[Suratclaret]

Shocker of a thread

Absolutely. Do we know how many players or agents were contacted by someone from the club? Do we know, after such contact, how many offers were made? Of course we don’t. It has been disappointing but players not wanting to come could be for any number of reasons and to blame the chairman is, frankly, pathetic.

[AlargeClaret]

Hardly Pace’s fault . We all know we needed a CM pretty desperately, we tried hard it failed ,but we’ve strengthened ,kept Tarky ,and I firmly believe IF we can keep the likes of Cornet /WW/Taylor fit we’ve a great chance of staying up . I also think with a bit of real quality upfront the likes of Roberts and Lennon can attack from the right .

[jedi_master]

"Certainly has lost the lions share of support of fans in an exceedingly quick amount of time." Jedi

So you are the spokesman for the majority then - quite a claim.I think you'll find most posts on here are from a surprisingly limited number of fans. Infact most posts on this board, admittedly on a quick spin through, appear to come from a poster in the NE who's surgically attached to his keyboard.

No I’m not at all, apologies if it read that way as that wasn’t my intention. It is merely how I see the current talk around the ownership, it seems far more negative than positive in general but that’s from a (as you say) very limited subset of posters on here and social media etc. I would have no idea how an overall ‘fan poll’ would go.

As I say, I have big concerns purely about our finances. I’m not disputing Pace clearly tried hard etc, chased targets - I have an overall worry that I cannot shake about our overall financial position if we are relegated. I can only pray that all the stuff in the media about our ownership is wrong, but I’m not well enough in the know on the inner workings of the club to have my fears easily quashed really.

[Buxtonclaret]

I don't like the whole idea of the leveraged buyout

But

On the squad

We were undermined by the 3 or 4 Windows when the previous owners were trying to keep expenditure down and the balance sheet up to make us look more attractive to a buyer and even depending on what, and at what point, they knew in advance that the funds would be used to help facilitate that buy out.

Under pace the summer transfer window was ok and if we hadn't been blind sided by Zagreb this wouldn't have been too bad if you consider that:

1. We are bottom of the league so we didn't look to a prospective target like they were coming to a premier league club.

2. All the press stories, at a convenient time, suggesting that we were in financial trouble.

3. Newcastle getting the backing of a rich country, possibly Dyche may have tempted Trippier back if we were 11th and Wood would not have been poached but for a ridiculous money is no object bid for him.

I don't like the concept of the of the buyout.

I know that they are making big efforts corporately including tarting up the ground.

I also know that if the squad isn't strong enough and we go down then we're in trouble with this financial method.

We know Wood was on the downward in terms of effectiveness, and we don't know if WW will be better but we have the hope which we didn't with Wood.

From when Pace came in, if I'm correct.

We have:
Cornet.... Very good
Roberts.... looks good
Collins.... looks good
Hennessey... looks good
WW... promising (13mil in the bank even if it services the debt)

A fighting chance... UTC

Pretty reasonable summary of where we're at just now.
But it'll not stop the knee jerk buffoonary from the usual corners.
They'll be metaphorically putting their heads in the oven over the next few days, and complaining about the rising price of gas while they do it.

[ChorltonCharlie]

I'm all for free speech, opinions are opinions after all, but do we have to listen to this verbal diahorrea.

Coming on this message board gets harder and harder, it's bed wetting nonsense, it's my ball and I'm going home, chuck the toys out of the pram time. Some of the comments on the transfer thread, and this thread topic is embarrassing. I just thank God we didn't have to rely on these so called fans in times of hardship. Who would want to climb out of the trenches with one of these gutless wonders alongside them.


PLEASE, just go and support (thats a joke in itself) someone else. I'm sure UTD or City would welcome you, cry on their shoulders. Seek attention in their many message boards, but leave this club, and this board for real fans. Fans who back their club and don't start crying if things don't go their way. Through thick and thin.
Nobody is happy we didn't get a RW or CM, nobody, but AP as shown by his airmiles has done his best. Circumstances **** on us with the late collapse for Orsic, and fate deemed that Ramsey would rather have an easy life in Glasgow, than work for his money down here.
That's life it's over, so either get behind the team or sod off and stop infesting this board.

I really like this post. Ok, telling people to go and support another team probably doesn’t help, but I see the sentiment. The problem is these days as football has become more about money and mass media the more supporters want to whinge about anything and everything. It’s like football supporters have forgotten what it means to support a club through thick and thin. Football is better when you remove the background noise and get back to going on the game with your mates and supporting the lads on the field. Even if you’re crap, it’s what it all should be about. This isn’t a problem unique to Burnley fans, but it’s amplified because of the size of our fanbase, lack of billionaire backing and the league we’re in. Financially we can’t compete, and if you think we can you really need to get your head out of the sand and read up on football economics. Transfer windows will be groundhog day type affairs. It’s not like popping in the shop to upgrade your tele.

I’ve heard people say that all other clubs around us have managed to strengthen. Nonsense. Norwich haven’t bought a single player and have let some go, including Cantwell who some of our fans/critics seem to think we should have gone for. Leeds have also struggled. Brentford have brought in Eriksen, which has it’s appeals. Take a step back, look at the situation though. London or East Lancashire for a player who’s spent a lot of time in London. If you’re not a Burnley fan, what would we be offering that Brentford can’t? Watford have ‘strengthened’, but this is a club that has a unique way of doing things and buy their fair share of dross. So really the two clubs measuring against in a negative way is a club run by a billionaire, and another that has owners that are the richest in the world.

No one is suggesting that Pace/Dyche have got everything right, but there’s so much that’s behind the scenes going on that no-one on here can point fingers with any strong credibility. In a lot of cases, it’s baseless assumptions. What we need from our supporters is a siege mentality. Expect that at this level we’re likely to have a squad that’s low in quality and get behind them in the hope we can be better than the sum of our parts.

[Sleeping Cat]

Sunday Morning; "Pace is genius, selling Wood to Newcastle and using the money to sign WW & Orsic. Masterstroke!"
Monday 11pm: "Pace Out!"

[NewClaret]

I’ve heard people say that all other clubs around us have managed to strengthen. Nonsense. Norwich haven’t bought a single player and have let some go, including Cantwell who some of our fans/critics seem to think we should have gone for. Leeds have also struggled. Brentford have brought in Eriksen, which has it’s appeals. Take a step back, look at the situation though. London or East Lancashire for a player who’s spent a lot of time in London. If you’re not a Burnley fan, what would we be offering that Brentford can’t? Watford have ‘strengthened’, but this is a club that has a unique way of doing things and buy their fair share of dross. So really the two clubs measuring against in a negative way is a club run by a billionaire, and another that has owners that are the richest in the world.

This.

And this isn’t an excuse by any means. I do feel we could and should have done more business ourselves but let’s not overlook that Norwich didn’t, Watford did but I’d question what impact that will have given how the new signings played vs Norwich, and Newcastle did but nowhere near to the level I was expecting.

WHU, Leeds, United, Chelsea, Liverpool, City, Southampton, Leicester, Norwich all very quiet - 9 teams with 4 signings between them. And I’m respect to the bigger

Everton pulled it out of the bag last minute, but I think Alli and VdB may take a little while to hit form.

[Stayingup]

Spot on. If the Orsic deal had gone through, most people would have been happy. As it is, it didn't. Not due to Alan Pace, but because the selling club changed their minds and left us with very little time to find a replacement. Some posters on here seem to think it would have been easy to find someone else in a matter of a few days, but they are mostly immature glory hunters who just don't understand Burnley F. Cs. place in the football pyramid. (How many top division teams are TOWN teams.) It's my guess that most of the whingers are either still at school, or should be.

Yes, we're all disappointed, but I for one will be on the Turf on Saturday supporting the players we have, and urging them on against Watford as I have done for 69 years. I wonder how many of the whingers will be there? Not many is my guess.

Good man. Spot on GD

[JohnMcGreal]

I really like this post. Ok, telling people to go and support another team probably doesn’t help, but I see the sentiment. The problem is these days as football has become more about money and mass media the more supporters want to whinge about anything and everything. It’s like football supporters have forgotten what it means to support a club through thick and thin. Football is better when you remove the background noise and get back to going on the game with your mates and supporting the lads on the field. Even if you’re crap, it’s what it all should be about. This isn’t a problem unique to Burnley fans, but it’s amplified because of the size of our fanbase, lack of billionaire backing and the league we’re in. Financially we can’t compete, and if you think we can you really need to get your head out of the sand and read up on football economics. Transfer windows will be groundhog day type affairs. It’s not like popping in the shop to upgrade your tele.

I’ve heard people say that all other clubs around us have managed to strengthen. Nonsense. Norwich haven’t bought a single player and have let some go, including Cantwell who some of our fans/critics seem to think we should have gone for. Leeds have also struggled. Brentford have brought in Eriksen, which has it’s appeals. Take a step back, look at the situation though. London or East Lancashire for a player who’s spent a lot of time in London. If you’re not a Burnley fan, what would we be offering that Brentford can’t? Watford have ‘strengthened’, but this is a club that has a unique way of doing things and buy their fair share of dross. So really the two clubs measuring against in a negative way is a club run by a billionaire, and another that has owners that are the richest in the world.

No one is suggesting that Pace/Dyche have got everything right, but there’s so much that’s behind the scenes going on that no-one on here can point fingers with any strong credibility. In a lot of cases, it’s baseless assumptions. What we need from our supporters is a siege mentality. Expect that at this level we’re likely to have a squad that’s low in quality and get behind them in the hope we can be better than the sum of our parts.

Good post and you're right about a lot of things there.

But I think it's important to keep in mind the significant increase in supporters anxiety due to the nature of the takeover and the very questionable financial situation at the club.

There's a good number of people who are really, genuinely worried about the security of the club in the event of relegation this season, and that's obviously manifested itself in the disappointment and anger in some cases at the lack of personnel coming through the door to help out what is quite clearly a struggling team.

It's easy to criticise fans who are complaining about another poor transfer window, but I think the vast majority of the time it comes from a good place. I'm sure everyone wants the same thing and that's the best for Burnley Football Club, and I'm sure that will be both visible and audible on the Turf on Saturday.

[Lancasterclaret]

Sunday Morning; "Pace is genius, selling Wood to Newcastle and using the money to sign WW & Orsic. Masterstroke!"
Monday 11pm: "Pace Out!"

This

If we'd signed Orsic, the same people demanding he go would be cracking one off over pictures of him

[daveisaclaret]

Sunday Morning; "Pace is genius, selling Wood to Newcastle and using the money to sign WW & Orsic. Masterstroke!"
Monday 11pm: "Pace Out!"

Who are you quoting?

It's puzzling to me that people are just making up reasons why people don't like Pace and ALK. If you disagree that's fine, but what is the point in making up reasons people are unhappy and then discrediting those reasons?

[Gordaleman]

Now that Orsic has opened up about his decision to stay at Zagreb, at least we know for certain that Burnley had agreed a deal. That doesn't sound to me like Alan Pace was thinkink of 'Pocketing' the Wood transfer kitty, as one keyboard warrior suggested.

Let him say that to Mr Pace's face in front of witnesses and see what happens.

[cblantfanclub]

If Garlick had been unable to sell the club where would we be? I think this is the realistic comparison that needs to be made.

Would he have bought Cornet and Collins, would Cornet have even been considered?
Would he have had a replacement for Wood in who we now know had previously been scouted?
Would he have banked more money in the hope of a future sale or leveraged buyout?
Would we be proactive in the market at a realistic level?
Would he have made the efffort to speak to/ visit players to try and ease deals through?

**** happens no matter how hard you try or plan.

[Vegas Claret]

I don't think I've ever once used the phrase "bed wetters" in my life. Today's a first, get a grip. If you don't like how Pace runs the club then feel free to get a consortium together to buy him out.

[burnley007]

Shocker of a thread

If you look closely, you will notice the question mark.

It was a discussion point, a thread, not a command.

Chill yer boots man.

[claretonthecoast1882]

If you look closely, you will notice the question mark.

It was a discussion point, a thread, not a command.

Chill yer boots man.

There was no question mark with the stuff you put as your viewpoint below the title, it was fairly clear what you meant.

I'm not sure I can do another one.
The club are a joke.

Pace needs to resign.

A diabolical window.
The chairman should resign.

Just a few of your other comments, at least stand by your words

[burnley007]

There was no question mark with the stuff you put as your viewpoint below the title, it was fairly clear what you meant.

I'm not sure I can do another one.
The club are a joke.

Pace needs to resign.

A diabolical window.
The chairman should resign.

Just a few of your other comments, at least stand by your words

So, let me get this right...if I start a discussion, I shouldn't give my thoughts on it?? How very Burnley of you.

[fatboy47]

If you don't like how Pace runs the club then feel free to get a consortium together to buy him out.

Good idea... The club is probably worth about minus £50m right now!

[claretonthecoast1882]

So, let me get this right...if I start a discussion, I shouldn't give my thoughts on it?? How very Burnley of you.

You can say what ever you fancy, just as anyone can laugh at what you say.

Not sure what the "How very Burnley of you" means do Burnley normally stop you from giving your thoughts or is that another daft comment ?

[Vegas Claret]

Good idea... The club is probably worth about minus £50m right now!

yeah, then you have to magically fund signings and wages or you'll have a thread on here asking for your head

[Sleeping Cat]

Who are you quoting?

It's puzzling to me that people are just making up reasons why people don't like Pace and ALK. If you disagree that's fine, but what is the point in making up reasons people are unhappy and then discrediting those reasons?

I'm quoting the general feeling and mood I was reading on here and social media during the last 3 days of the transfer window, culminating in this thread to show the absurdity in the opinions.

Personally I'm not saying Pace Out, nor am I saying he is a genius and the best thing to ever happen to the club. I'm concerned as to how he and ALK have purchased the club and the strain that now places on the club financially but so long as we stay in the division and the finances don't become an issue then there is no reason for me to want them out of the club.

That opinion might change in 6 months.

[daveisaclaret]

I'm quoting the general feeling and mood I was reading on here and social media during the last 3 days of the transfer window, culminating in this thread to show the absurdity in the opinions.

Personally I'm not saying Pace Out, nor am I saying he is a genius and the best thing to ever happen to the club. I'm concerned as to how he and ALK have purchased the club and the strain that now places on the club financially but so long as we stay in the division and the finances don't become an issue then there is no reason for me to want them out of the club.

That opinion might change in 6 months.

But if one person is happy on Sunday, why does that matter if a different person is unhappy on Monday? You're implying it's people changing opinion overnight by contrasting two different groups' opinions.

[TsarBomba]

This

If we'd signed Orsic, the same people demanding he go would be cracking one off over pictures of him

Absolutely correct.

Let’s have a bit of perspective.

There’s nothing wrong with being disappointed, I sure am, but there doesn’t need to be this huge overreaction.

The club isn’t a mess. We’re clearly making huge strides in our overseas recruitment, but we’re trying to strengthen from a position of weakness. Had we been mid table, or even 17th, it may have been a different story.

Let’s get behind the lads.