West Indies v England 1st test

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:16 pm

214/6 Foakes gone for 42. Excellent 99 partnership and the team looks so much more settled with him coming in at 7. Bairstow going through the gears well still.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:31 pm

Well done Bairstow, Foakes & Stokes, at least they've given England a total for the bowlers to work with.

Now let's hope Bairstow can get us to 300 with the help of the tail. And for once JB even got a review correct.

Still serious issues at the top of the order though, but what's new with England.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:39 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑
Tue Mar 08, 2022 3:52 pm
On current form no, but that is like saying Watford can't claim Norwich are a bad side. If England were at full strength how many of the West Indians would you have in our 11

Well for starters I'd swap their 2 openers for ours, Holder & Roach would probably also get in my XI, and Joseph would be pushing for a place also, far too many medium pacers in the England ranks, now if you have the ability of Anderson & Broad you can get away with lacking genuine pace, but most of England's seamers don't, especially when the decks are flat.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 8:57 pm

Yes Bairstow! Outstanding knock and well deserved century.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:00 pm

Brilliant ton from Bairstow, even more so when he came in at 48-4, and he's almost single-handedly saved England's bacon today.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:18 pm

Superb 100 for Bairstow. His technique has been tested with the swinging ball.

Not the quickest pitch but not one you will ever feel properly in on.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:34 pm

268/6 at stumps. Did not see that coming at lunch. Good day and hopefully these two can get us to 300 in the morning.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Tue Mar 08, 2022 9:44 pm

The Dukes ball certainly made it a testing day.

But I bet the likes of Gower and Botham on the sidelines wished they could have faced this when they came over. Rapid bowlers on up and down pitches.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:04 am

England's day and who'd have thought that at lunch, good chance of passing 300, and that in itself is a rarity, back to back tons for Bairstow, who's surely secured his place for the foreseeable now, as should foakes have following that usual knock in a testing day.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:40 pm

285/7
We'd
Stokes.
Flakes
Worked,
All good blokes.
Then there's Johnny B
Good,
Eh?
Feel a song coming on.

I'll get me coat.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:41 pm

Drat.
285/8

sandy richardson · Post by **sandy richardson** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:43 pm

Looking at the batting line-up, I think Sam Vokes might fancy his chances of a call-up.

Buxtonclaret · Post by **Buxtonclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:08 pm

305/9

Really didn't think we'd make 250 at one point yesterday.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 3:20 pm

Hopefully Leach can hang in for a short while, Bairstow said yesterday 320-350 would be the initial aim

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:00 pm

Even without Jimmy and Broady there I didn't expect Overton to open the bowling.

Root won't make the summer with these choices.

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:06 pm

Never seen anything in Overton at this level that would suggest he’s good enough. Certainly not as a pick above those two.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:22 pm

Woakes and Overton opening the bowling, give me strength!

onewillieirvine · Post by **onewillieirvine** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:35 pm

I reckon these two are a fourth seamer at best in most test sides. Not opening the bowling.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:08 pm

This bowling ‘attack’ is painful. Almost like dropping your two best opening bowlers isn’t a great idea.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:21 pm

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 4:22 pm
Woakes and Overton opening the bowling, give me strength!

My thoughts exactly. We did well in the end to get to 311 but it’s been easy for the WI against this attack.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:25 pm

How long do planes take to get a Mr. S. Broad and Mr. J. Anderson out to the Caribbean?

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:26 pm

83/1 Overton strikes

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:26 pm

We’ve got a wicket

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:27 pm

Milltown1882 wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:25 pm
How long do planes take to get a Mr. S. Broad and Mr. J. Anderson out to the Caribbean?

I am still totally bemused by this decision

RVclaret · Post by **RVclaret** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:34 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:27 pm
I am still totally bemused by this decision

Maybe it could be understood if they were giving some new guys a go eg Mahmood, yet they roll out with Woakes who averages 54 away and Overton who’s already been given chances.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:38 pm

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:34 pm
Maybe it could be understood if they were giving some new guys a go eg Mahmood, yet they roll out with Woakes who averages 54 away and Overton who’s already been given chances.

Precisely. I’m all for giving young players an opportunity, as we did with Jimmy in the one dayers in Australia back in 2003, but I don’t understand this at all.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:07 pm

ClaretTony wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 5:38 pm
Precisely. I’m all for giving young players an opportunity, as we did with Jimmy in the one dayers in Australia back in 2003, but I don’t understand this at all.

It was only injuries and the fact Jimmy was in Australia at the time, that got him his chance.

Not good planning.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:11 pm

Ben Stokes. Makes. Things. Happen.

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:14 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 6:07 pm
It was only injuries and the fact Jimmy was in Australia at the time, that got him his chance.

Not good planning.

It was but at least he was given a chance

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:02 pm

Picture looks a lot better at tea - 127/4

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:19 pm

Ben Foakes gets built up way over the top. He looks decent but why are people claiming he's the best glove man 8n the world?

He has a 68% catch rate at Test level.

Denno97 · Post by **Denno97** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:39 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Wed Mar 09, 2022 7:19 pm
Ben Foakes gets built up way over the top. He looks decent but why are people claiming he's the best glove man 8n the world?

He has a 68% catch rate at Test level.

Plays for media darlings Surrey

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Wed Mar 09, 2022 11:53 pm

England toiled in that final session, and the West Indies could well get a 1st innings lead tomorrow, apart from that brief hour where Stokes & Wood bowled well the attack has been fairly toothless.

Slow pitch isn't really helping either side to assert control on proceedings, and it's looking like a 2nd innings game right now. although the draw can't be totally discounted yet.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 3:13 pm

Stokes strikes early to remove Holder, but the WI recovering with this useful 6th wicket partnership.

New ball taken 232-5.

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:25 pm

Unhelpful wicket/pitch but again our new ball bowlers unconvincing

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 4:51 pm

Not exactly going well without Anderson and Broad is it, really just highlights what most of us suspected that England have a genuine lack of bowling options after that stellar duo.

West Indies in serious danger of building up a useful lead, and being able to apply pressure to England's fragile top order.

Oh great now we've resorted to bowling short at a medium pace, that's really going to trouble the batsmen that tactic.

tiger76 · Post by **tiger76** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:01 pm

Leach finally nabs a wicket, boy did England need that, 279-6 lead just 32.

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:05 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:53 pm
Looking forward to Overton bowling 75mph and taking 1-70

Just noticed he’s got 1-72 and is bowling 75mph

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:06 pm

I’ve just got that wicket slagging him off

Burnley1989 · Post by **Burnley1989** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:08 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:06 pm
I’ve just got that wicket slagging him off

It’s usually me, keep it up

ClaretTony · Post by **ClaretTony** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:10 pm

We’ve just dropped a catch

Red Fox Rocks Socks · Post by **Red Fox Rocks Socks** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:12 pm

Burnley1989 wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:08 pm
It’s usually me, keep it up

Do you think if I say crawleys got hands like cows t1ts he might catch the next one????

Bosscat · Post by **Bosscat** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:14 pm

Red Fox Rocks Socks wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:12 pm
Do you think if I say crawleys got hands like cows t1ts he might catch the next one????

Try it

CleggHall · Post by **CleggHall** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:41 pm

17 runs in the last 14 overs, is test cricket dying?

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:55 pm

CleggHall wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 5:41 pm
17 runs in the last 14 overs, is test cricket dying?

No, England have just learnt to bowl tight lines at last.

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:19 pm

Wood unable to bowl for the rest of the innings. Brilliant.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:19 pm

Foakes standing up to Woakes- adds more threat to Woakes attack

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:25 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:19 pm
Foakes standing up to Woakes- adds more threat to Woakes attack

How?

He's not going to get a stumping and makes catching a lot harder.

Stupid idea.

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:47 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑
Thu Mar 10, 2022 6:25 pm
How?

He's not going to get a stumping and makes catching a lot harder.

Stupid idea.

It means the batsman has to stay in his crease or be out if he misses the ball. Unless his opinion of Foakes' stumping skills are so low that he takes the chance!

Milltown1882 · Post by **Milltown1882** » Thu Mar 10, 2022 7:05 pm

I love how they said Stokes wasn’t going to bowl this test and he’s now bowled 20 overs.