I worked so hard to leave you with a good impression of me though...Billy Balfour wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:09 pmRadio phone-ins are just as bad. I don't really care what the man in the street thinks, because I've met him, and he's a prick.
Guardian article on Sean Dyche
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Nope I was just building on your comment to add even without the point you raised that comments sections are best ignored it was still a pretty poor take as they were doing exactly what they were moaning about.Lancasterclaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:43 pmNot that I'm aware of!
I thought your original comment was aimed at me, if it wasn't, then no bother at all
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Just found it and then this thread.
One of those articles. Bang on and captures the moment.
One of those articles. Bang on and captures the moment.
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Without wishing to go around and around with the ALK thing - I think this is a really interesting point!spt_claret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:58 pmThe first one is an Athletico Mince reference.
The other two are pretty stuck up but I would say in the minority. I live in London and am surrounded by a lot of metropolitan guardian reader types- who generally admire Burnley whatever their political views are.
There was (and still us, but less by the day as ALK change things) a very ripe brand for Burnley as the club that IS anti-football, if you define football as the modern, money-driven, diving and corruption riddled, sportsmanship devoid enterprise built around global TV viewing rather than community and heritage. Anti-football but pro-"footie" - the club for working class or blue collar, for honest pros, for people who prefer to work for success than buy it, for people who value doing things fairly and the right way and having gritty integrity over smooth superficiality. I think Dyche even grasped and played up to this- see him wandering around in the snow in just his shirt Vs Spurs.
We can criticise our marketing team for not doing enough to capitalise on this brand or not managing to do it without detaching from unsavoury hangers on (eg. The plane incident). But that brand was absolutely there, and one we could (and should) have been proud of rather than seeking the approval of the City/Liverpool hangers on. We seem to be abandoning this image because it's not what our owners want, but the replacement is just a lower budget version of what already exists, without our previous unique selling points.
For all the talk of becoming the Premier League's favourite underdog, I think we had a decent claim to it already. Just not in the same market as Leicester or Wolves for example.
Burnley has a very strong brand, which could and should have been leveraged more fully.....!
I don't get any sense from the professionals within the game Burnley were seen as anything other than a very technically competent authentic footballing side and town.
The only place I read genuinely disdainful comments are on this site and other footballing message boards where contempt and disdain are the lingua franca.
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I think you might want to re-read the article, not quite sure how you reached that conclusion from this.CardyTheClaret wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 4:35 pmThis is the same writer who in 2017 wrote an article for The Independant called ''Burnley, Brexit and Britishness: The Premier League's most interesting club and how it represents society's split'' where he basically called Dyche a racist bully. I wonder what made him change his mind.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foo ... 24456.html
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Such ignorant b@stards.Clarets4me wrote: ↑Tue Apr 19, 2022 1:35 pmHardly politics, here's three chosen at random ..
OVerity " Kick. S**t. Eat pies. And that's the Burnley way "
WellYouSayThat - " I don't buy this stuck up 'metropolitan' nonsense. Burnley are a reckless anti football team. A low budget Atletico Madrid. Rubbish to watch and a danger to other teams. If you can't play football you've no business being in the Premier League. Good riddance. "
Kneejerkreactionary - " Dyche gave the people of Burnley a team they could be proud of ... Only the people in Burnley could be proud of that team "
The writer of the last post won't even know anyone from Burnley and I have to say, whether politcal or not, Trendy Metros are the one's screwing the country up and are welcome to Arsenal Spurs and Brighton. Because its their supporters generally who write this bile. You see much much less of this from supporters of most northern Premier League teams.
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Very clear than someone close to the club , probably a supporter , is feeding information to journalists .