Bardsley

[ClaretPete001]

Pete - how do you explain his wife knowing he was leaving on the 23rd May and making a public post about it, only for him to claim he only knew about it through a WhatsApp group when the retained list came out?

He didn't say he didn't know he was leaving - he said he found out the club had publicly announced his departure on WhatsApp effectively terminating the relationship but had not been afforded him the courtesy of a phone call to say thank you, goodbye and best wishes.

He then went on to talk about the reality of being human in that situation and the fact he had to leave the players forum and could not say goodbye to the club and other players who he had good relationships with...! Gabby Agbonlahor then talked about getting kicked off players forums in the past

It's just normal human stuff when you leave an organisation you've been at everyday for 5 years. Just because you are a millionaire doesn't change how you feel; particularly, if its been a good experience and you want to make it clear how much you appreciate the support of colleagues and in return that they have appreciated you. And other staff at the club.

Has was NOT attacking the club, the owners or complaining - far from it. You may think what soppy nonsense he knew and could have said his goodbye's anyway but that is what was being said.... NOT he didn't know he was leaving.

What's so hard to understand?

[beddie]

I still don’t get this. Agents do just about anything for their clients. I’d be amazed if his Agent hadn’t already contacted the club prior to his current contract running out in order to find out his position. Perhaps he did, his Agent was then told it would not be renewed but Phil expected something personally from the Club. Also if a Club is going to offer a player an extension or new contract he would be aware that the Club would have let him/ Agent know in advance of his current contract running out, just to safe guard them from him signing for someone else. I’m not sure he’s being fair with this.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

Do we really believe Bardsley couldn't say goodbye to the other players away from the club/training ground?

[Spike]

Communication from the Club at all levels leaves a lot to be desired.

These players have agents and are experienced footballers.
They could have badgered the club for answers either through their agents or by themselves

Unbelievable that they didn’t speak up before the end of season

[GodIsADeeJay81]

They were under contract so I'm not sure why they'd speak up

[Sproggy]

He then went on to talk about the reality of being human in that situation and the fact he had to leave the players forum and could not say goodbye to the club and other players who he had good relationships with...! Gabby Agbonlahor then talked about getting kicked off players forums in the past

We're in Yaya Toure's birthday cake territory here.

Does Phil not know that he can use his phone to communicate with people individually? He's had since May 23rd when his wife knew that he was leaving.

Maybe he could set up an "Ex Burnley Players" WhatsApp group? I hope he gets all the support he needs in this difficult time.

[Top Claret]

We're in Yaya Toure's birthday cake territory here.

Does Phil not know that he can use his phone to communicate with people individually? He's had since May 23rd when his wife knew that he was leaving.

Maybe he could set up an "Ex Burnley Players" WhatsApp group? I hope he gets all the support he needs in this difficult time.

He will most definitely need counseling followed by a course of happy tablets

[Burnley1989]

We're in Yaya Toure's birthday cake territory here.

Does Phil not know that he can use his phone to communicate with people individually? He's had since May 23rd when his wife knew that he was leaving.

Maybe he could set up an "Ex Burnley Players" WhatsApp group? I hope he gets all the support he needs in this difficult time.

I could almost cry for him here, I think some folk need to get in to the real world

[ClaretPete001]

We're in Yaya Toure's birthday cake territory here.

Does Phil not know that he can use his phone to communicate with people individually? He's had since May 23rd when his wife knew that he was leaving.

Maybe he could set up an "Ex Burnley Players" WhatsApp group? I hope he gets all the support he needs in this difficult time.

Excellent, at least he is being ridiculed for what he did say and not what he didn't.

Yes, rightly or wrongly; after 5 years he expected a phone call and some acknowledgement from the club at the end of his contract.

[RVclaret]

Excellent, at least he is being ridiculed for what he did say and not what he didn't.

Yes, rightly or wrongly; after 5 years he expected a phone call and some acknowledgement from the club at the end of his contract.

This is the TalkSport ‘headline’:

“I found out I got released from #BurnleyFC from the lads group chat!”

“You would have thought someone would pick up the phone and say ‘thanks’”

Phil Bardsley reveals how he was told he was being released from Burnley’

It reads like he found out he was being released from the group chat, when in reality he knew weeks before (23rd May his wife knew).

[Pickles]

Undervalued?! Got paid millions for doing sod all. Footballers.

[Burnley1989]

Pete I think you're getting far to upset about this, I doubt Bardsley has lost any sleep

[dandeclaret]

He didn't say he didn't know he was leaving - he said he found out the club had publicly announced his departure on WhatsApp effectively terminating the relationship but had not been afforded him the courtesy of a phone call to say thank you, goodbye and best wishes.

He then went on to talk about the reality of being human in that situation and the fact he had to leave the players forum and could not say goodbye to the club and other players who he had good relationships with...! Gabby Agbonlahor then talked about getting kicked off players forums in the past

It's just normal human stuff when you leave an organisation you've been at everyday for 5 years. Just because you are a millionaire doesn't change how you feel; particularly, if its been a good experience and you want to make it clear how much you appreciate the support of colleagues and in return that they have appreciated you. And other staff at the club.

Has was NOT attacking the club, the owners or complaining - far from it. You may think what soppy nonsense he knew and could have said his goodbye's anyway but that is what was being said.... NOT he didn't know he was leaving.

What's so hard to understand?

In total agreement with you Pete.... it's the sort of stuff that made the club different, gave it that "Family Feel" had a "One CLub Mentality" etc.... unfortunately some don't understand that how important these little things are in helping to create that culture, and overachievement in results.

[AwayClaret]

#PrayForBards

[louieollie]

He didn't say he didn't know he was leaving - he said he found out the club had publicly announced his departure on WhatsApp effectively terminating the relationship but had not been afforded him the courtesy of a phone call to say thank you, goodbye and best wishes.

He then went on to talk about the reality of being human in that situation and the fact he had to leave the players forum and could not say goodbye to the club and other players who he had good relationships with...! Gabby Agbonlahor then talked about getting kicked off players forums in the past


It's just normal human stuff when you leave an organisation you've been at everyday for 5 years. Just because you are a millionaire doesn't change how you feel; particularly, if its been a good experience and you want to make it clear how much you appreciate the support of colleagues and in return that they have appreciated you. And other staff at the club.

Has was NOT attacking the club, the owners or complaining - far from it. You may think what soppy nonsense he knew and could have said his goodbye's anyway but that is what was being said.... NOT he didn't know he was leaving.

What's so hard to understand?

Not sure why you are getting smart arse responses !! I heard it exactly as you did and agree not for one second did he bad mouth the club merely wondering where any common decency was.

[forzagranata]

It is just common courtesy to say farewell and thanks to someone on their way out of a job at the end of their contract.

I can't see what is controversial about that.

In the same way, players put out statements thanking the club and its fans when they leave. They don't take the attitude that - well, I am out of contract now and signing for someone else so why should I say anything about my former club, do they?

[Devils_Advocate]

It sounds to me that the players were molly-coddled under Sean Dyche and the after effects of that culture is now causing problems

[Sproggy]

It is just common courtesy to say farewell and thanks to someone on their way out of a job at the end of their contract.

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June 10, 2022

Burnley Football Club can confirm its list of retained players following the end of the 2021/22 season.

Ben Mee, Aaron Lennon, Phil Bardsley, Dale Stephens and Erik Pieters are among a total of 14 professionals to depart the Club upon the conclusion of their contracts at Turf Moor at the end of this month.

Full-back Bardsley joined the Club from Stoke City in the summer of 2017 and went on to make 70 appearances for Burnley and has been an influential popular member of the dressing room throughout his time at Turf Moor.

The Club would like to thank all departing players for their efforts during their time at Turf Moor and wish them well for the future.

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That still gave him 20 days to come into the club whilst under contract to say his farewells.

[ClaretMov]

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[Sproggy]

Maybe they should have thanked him in a montage video as well.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1535268175327252482

[spt_claret]

Not sure why you are getting smart arse responses !! I heard it exactly as you did and agree not for one second did he bad mouth the club merely wondering where any common decency was.

Fully agree. I got dog's abuse from people on here for saying similar in the Dale Stephens thread. Basic, small steps of common courtesy and decency - "thank you for your efforts and time here, to confirm we're not keeping you on but all the best in the future" takes a few seconds and minimal effort but goes a long way to maintaining a cohesive, communal culture where people feel valued and part of a club family. Regardless of salary- I get paid a decent salary at my current employer but I'm looking to leave as the culture has become extremely cold and disposable towards staff in the past 12 months, very much not valuing or respecting employees as people.
Basic respect, integrity and courtesy are by their nature basic. It's not a knock on the club and there's something very odd vitriol and sneering over this which seems to not understand human psychology regarding feeling welcome or valued. Is it a world ending catastrophic indictment? Of course it bloody isn't. It's a very, very small thing which probably doesn't warrant huge headlines and inquests. But the fact it's small means it's really not hard to make that small courtesy- especially when you look at how improved we are now at public facing social media marketing.

[Swizzlestick]

You got 'dog's abuse' because you called Burnley supporters "vile and classless" for having the temerity to criticise Dale Stephens - I'd class that as quite vitriolic and sneering, not least disingenuous. Where was the basic respect and courtesy there?

[IanMcL]

We're in Yaya Toure's birthday cake territory here.

Does Phil not know that he can use his phone to communicate with people individually? He's had since May 23rd when his wife knew that he was leaving.

Maybe he could set up an "Ex Burnley Players" WhatsApp group? I hope he gets all the support he needs in this difficult time.

I seem to recall Sam Vokes still being part of a WhatsApp group, from afar and attending events and get together.

What ever did they do before phones?

[martin_p]

Players used to find out they’d been released by phoning Clubcall back in the day.

[spt_claret]

You got 'dog's abuse' because you called Burnley supporters "vile and classless" for having the temerity to criticise Dale Stephens - I'd class that as quite vitriolic and sneering, not least disingenuous. Where was the basic respect and courtesy there?

I elaborated as to why I think we have a handful of unpleasant fans on here, and how it wasn't specifically to do with Stephens alone, but the general culture of some people turning on players for any perceived slight and abusing current players who may well read what's posted here. Those fans show no basic respect or courtesy to current players, I appreciate I can't quantify this next bit but I do believe the number of fans doing this is growing. I didn't single out or take a pop at anyone and I stand by that criticism, our fans are far from perfect as there is a big difference between criticising and attacking players or the club.

[Juan Tanamera]

If it helps Phil feel any better, I never received a letter of thanks from my employers when I retired after 19 years service.
And Talksport have never mentioned it either.
Seems like there's one rule for millionaire footballers and one for someone who was only four numbers off becoming a millionaire on the Euro millions.

[Volvoclaret]

I think CT should set up a crowdfunded site to raise money for Psychiatric support for Phil and Dale.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Players used to find out they’d been released by phoning Clubcall back in the day.

Cost Peter Zelem £38 for him to find out given they did it in alphabetical order

[ClaretPete001]

Cost Peter Zelem £38 for him to find out given they did it in alphabetical order

It feels like this thread should open to the sound of largo from Dvorak's new world symphony.

To bring this to a conclusion it seems clear there are three options when you are dealing with millionaire players who have access to the media and are looking for new careers.

Option 1 (the clubs preferred option): Don't have an exit strategy

Option 2 (the stupid people's preferred option): Have an exit strategy and communicate with the players.

Option 3 (the favoured approach by this forum): Accuse them of being liars and pampered millionaires who don't talk to their wives and then re-adopt club call.

Excellent.

[claretonthecoast1882]

No idea what that post has to do with my comment

[Vino blanco]

It feels like this thread should open to the sound of largo from Dvorak's new world symphony.

To bring this to a conclusion it seems clear there are three options when you are dealing with millionaire players who have access to the media and are looking for new careers.

Option 1 (the clubs preferred option): Don't have an exit strategy

Option 2 (the stupid people's preferred option): Have an exit strategy and communicate with the players.

Option 3 (the favoured approach by this forum): Accuse them of being liars and pampered millionaires who don't talk to their wives and then re-adopt club call.

Excellent.

Silly billy

[JohnMac]

I have all the sympathy in the World for someone losing their job and wondering where they will find money for the next mortgage payment.

Footballers, nope.

[Nori1958]

It feels like this thread should open to the sound of largo from Dvorak's new world symphony.

To bring this to a conclusion it seems clear there are three options when you are dealing with millionaire players who have access to the media and are looking for new careers.

Option 1 (the clubs preferred option): Don't have an exit strategy

Option 2 (the stupid people's preferred option): Have an exit strategy and communicate with the players.

Option 3 (the favoured approach by this forum): Accuse them of being liars and pampered millionaires who don't talk to their wives and then re-adopt club call.

Excellent.

Option 4....ignore the evidence that player knew he was leaving on last day of season, but continue to critise posters who don't fully believe the radio interview

[aclaretinstevenage]

I would hope both Bardsley and Stephens had complained directly to the club about lack of professionalism before bleating like babies to Talk Shite who have long since had an agenda against Burnley FC - in my opinion of course

[warksclaret]

I know we have had a good old debate about Bardsley today. Sadly the millions listening to Talkshite, believe every word and feel for the player. PROOF ??-I was going out earlier today and there is a guy in our road who I always have a general football chat with. First thing he said was "I was listening to Talksport this morning and your guy Bardsley was on". At that point I asked him was it about the renewal of his contract, and was he aware the club had issued a non retained list, and did he know Bardsley was 37, and not started a game all season, yet still earned £1.5m last season. At that point he said, that they had mentioned another Burnley player who was treated the same way, but had never heard of him (surprise, surprise). At that point I told him the player was serving a 12 month drink driving ban. At that point my friend burst out laughing saying these guys live in a different world. The power of media !!

[BurnleyFC]

So Bardo isn’t as tough as he likes to make out then?

Just another whinging cry baby like the majority of professional footballers.

[DCWat]

Thing is, with stuff like this, it undoes some of the good work done by the media team with recent signings.

I’m not in Barsdley’s corner here but if that is his or even Stephen’s perception, it’s a very easy thing to prevent in the future.

If we’re wanting to reach a wider audience for the right reasons, better to limit the potential for negatives being pedalled by various media sources.

[louieollie]

Thing is, with stuff like this, it undoes some of the good work done by the media team with recent signings.

I’m not in Barsdley’s corner here but if that is his or even Stephen’s perception, it’s a very easy thing to prevent in the future.

If we’re wanting to reach a wider audience for the right reasons, better to limit the potential for negatives being pedalled by various media sources.

Nailed it !

[boatshed bill]

I would hope both Bardsley and Stephens had complained directly to the club about lack of professionalism before bleating like babies to Talk Shite who have long since had an agenda against Burnley FC - in my opinion of course

Sky's radio mouthpiece isn't it?

[aclaretinstevenage]

Sky's radio mouthpiece isn't it?

Yep! Pretty much one and the same. Big six bias and to hell with the rest.

[GodIsADeeJay81]

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/15 ... mRo2A&s=19

Simon Jordan saying what we all think

[AwayClaret]

https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/15 ... mRo2A&s=19

Simon Jordan saying what we all think

He's a bit of a twonk but he's bang on but Bardsley has got his publicity now so job done.

[KRBFC]

Close this friggin thread, another one turning into a bun fight FFS

"Fan's" slagging off the club at every opportunity........love it

I don't think there was one person who posted above you, slagging off the club. Everyone seemed to be on the clubs side here..... do you just try your very best to stifle all conversation on here?

[boatshed bill]

It sounds to me that the players were molly-coddled under Sean Dyche and the after effects of that culture is now causing problems

Very likely.

[Commy]

Maybe we should follow other companies and have leaving interviews

[boatshed bill]

The daft thing is that the players not offered new contracts have had 6 months to talk to other clubs.

[warksclaret]

He's a bit of a twonk but he's bang on but Bardsley has got his publicity now so job done.

I have to confess I am a fan of Simon Jordan (largely). I have to say on the majority of Burnley topics he has been largely positive, and often sees through most of the bleating made by players across the leagues

[Claretitus]

The daft thing is that the players not offered new contracts have had 6 months to talk to other clubs.

Absolutely. And it’s more than possible that the silence was deafening, particularly in Stephens’s case.