How would we fare in the Premier League with this team?

[Hipper]

I don't see how we can judge as we haven't seen if this current lot can do better then they are now. I hope they can.

I've seen all the full games on Clarets+ or Sky. We've had an impressive start and caught some teams by surprise. Others seemed to have had the measure of us but still could not win. The only match Burnley have been totally convincing is Swansea. For the Sunderland game I didn't think we were that much better in the second half then we were in the first. We upped the energy and changed things around and scored four but Sunderland could also have got more.

Tonight will be interesting as we face a side that is not far off last year's Premier League side with good quality forwards. I'm not confident!

Well, that was interesting. And based on this level of performance and bearing in mind our opponents (their bad run and injuries), we will fail badly.

We were unable to put the ball in the net and we looked really uncomfortable when the pressure was piled on. You do not win games with pretty football, lots of possession, or even dominating games.

Of course we are still a work in progress. This is not a criticism, just an observation in answer to the OP's question.

[Colburn_Claret]

We started off very well first 20 mins, but after that we never looked like scoring, despite all the possession. Same failure to get the ball in the box early, and a failure to get bodies in the box at times.
Really frustrating, as we have lots of opportunities to play the ball in, but don't take them. Another match where the goalkeeper was a spectator.
Another bug bear is when was the last time we took a free kick, that was on target. I'm sick to death of these FKs sailing 5ft over that bar. Professional footballers....it's crap. At least work the keeper, if he saves it fair enough, but to continually blast them over the bar is just a waste.

So much of our football is a joy to watch, and when we get it right and it clicks, we are awesome. Unbeatable at this level, but the silly mistakes are going to catch up with us at some point.
I don't feel as negative as this post reads, I'm over the moon with what we've done so far, but if we want to progress, we need to look at the things we get wrong.

[JohnMac]

They would lack the physicality to compete over a season. The wins would be special but very infrequent I think.

[gtclaret]

We would be ruthlessly exposed

[Quickenthetempo]

Just seen on twitter that Bournemouth had 40 points and Fulham 38 by matchweek 17 last season.

A bit behind the promoted sides at the minute.

[claretandy]

I hope that we draw a lower half prem team in the next round of we beat Crawley.

[Hipper]

We started off very well first 20 mins, but after that we never looked like scoring, despite all the possession. Same failure to get the ball in the box early, and a failure to get bodies in the box at times.
Really frustrating, as we have lots of opportunities to play the ball in, but don't take them. Another match where the goalkeeper was a spectator.
Another bug bear is when was the last time we took a free kick, that was on target. I'm sick to death of these FKs sailing 5ft over that bar. Professional footballers....it's crap. At least work the keeper, if he saves it fair enough, but to continually blast them over the bar is just a waste.

So much of our football is a joy to watch, and when we get it right and it clicks, we are awesome. Unbeatable at this level, but the silly mistakes are going to catch up with us at some point.
I don't feel as negative as this post reads, I'm over the moon with what we've done so far, but if we want to progress, we need to look at the things we get wrong.

We did create chances but did not have the quality to finish them consistently. Zanoury's header, and the curling shot just over (like the Sunderland goal), and Tella's shot at the goalkeeper were obvious ones. They are both capable of those finishes but perhaps because they are still inexperienced aren't consistent enough. That's all that was really missing. It could have been 3-0 up at half time like against Swansea.

I agree our corners and free kicks were woeful, even more of an attacking opportunity for Norwich!

[turbo5]

I agree with most comments on here. My opinion we would be suffering some heavy defeats in the PL if we were there now.
We are really good in the Championship against teams who want to play football . We struggle against big strong players and defensive teams , we can't really break them down. Playing against a Dyche set up and we would struggle
Like a lot of people I feel we struggle in the last 10 minutes with a 1 goal lead, we panic and look disorganised I just hope its something we can overcome.
We really need to improve on our set pieces, it used to be one of our strong points. I can only recall 1 goal from a corner this season . Plus 1 or 2 more from a number of touches before going in the net.
We also struggle with free kicks and throw ins.
The team is young and still bonding together I am sure as the season progresses we will improve and confidence will grow. When you look where we were at the start of the season I can see we are progressing and developing as a team. Whether we would be premier league standard at the end of the season just depends on the additions we make and the team developing as the season progresses.

[Duffer_]

Another bug bear is when was the last time we took a free kick, that was on target. I'm sick to death of these FKs sailing 5ft over that bar. Professional footballers....it's crap. At least work the keeper, if he saves it fair enough, but to continually blast them over the bar is just a waste.

I too am enjoying the performances but our set pieces need attention. Our throw-ins are even worse than our FKs. No movement and we take so long, Vitinho in particular, that it looks like we are time wasting at 0-0. I've not seen any stats on it but a throw-in to us feels like a 50-50 outcome. I could handle that if it was done quickly to catch the oppo off guard but it isn't. A minor point and it is encouraging that there is room for improvement even in the basics.

[KateR]

be interesting to see how S Twine get's on in his first full game for BFC, which would be in the EPL if we (when) we get promoted

But seriously, at this point I'd be worried that we might beat Derby for the unwanted title if it was comparing the team now in the EPL, but as others have said, still plenty of time to improve, but while my heart says we'd survive my brain says we'll be straight back down. However, the pull of VK could make a big differences in bringing in new faces that just might make a difference. It's a problem I certainly hope we'll be faced with next year, that's for sure!

[claretabroad]

This team would get relegated. The defence would concede a huge number of goals and our attack would struggle to score. At least half the team would need to be upgraded if we wanted to keep our patient possession based style.

[Spijed]

The game against Norwich would be replicated a number of times, but without getting the three points.

We'd score at least one goal, but any top striker in the Prem would almost certainly score the chance that Pukki had late on in reply.

[Inchy]

We would concede a boat load of goals and we wouldn’t create enough chances.

We don’t create enough chances now considering the amount of the ball we have so it’s likely to be worse in the prem.

We would be down by March

[RVclaret]

This question gets even dafter with every new reply. Though I'm surprised Spijed didn't mention how PL teams would score from every single cross into the box, so at least that's a plus.

[Devils_Advocate]

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Is there any data modelling you could do to give us all a reliable view of if this Burnley team would survive in the Premier League?

[Spijed]

This question gets even dafter with every new reply. Though I'm surprised Spijed didn't mention how PL teams would score from every single cross into the box, so at least that's a plus.

I think you are in for a rude awakening if you think we have any chance of surviving with the way we set up defensively.

However, I was pleasantly surprised when we brought on Charlie Taylor to try and shore things up (Pukki chance aside). At least it shows we are trying to hold onto leads a bit better in the latter part of the game. And also booting the ball clear was good to see, rather than faffing about at the back.

[RVclaret]

I think you are in for a rude awakening if you think we have any chance of surviving with the way we set up defensively.

However, I was pleasantly surprised when we brought on Charlie Taylor to try and shore things up (Pukki chance aside). At least it shows we are trying to hold onto leads a bit better in the latter part of the game. And also booting the ball clear was good to see, rather than faffing about at the back.

- We wouldn't set up the same way
- This team is still very, very new (and young)
- We would make new signings that are PL quality (trust in VK)

[claretonthecoast1882]

I think you are in for a rude awakening if you think we have any chance of surviving with the way we set up defensively.

However, I was pleasantly surprised when we brought on Charlie Taylor to try and shore things up (Pukki chance aside). At least it shows we are trying to hold onto leads a bit better in the latter part of the game. And also booting the ball clear was good to see, rather than faffing about at the back.

You would have to be a fairly daft to think on gaining promotion they won't sign players.

How would Rochdale get on in the Champions League is an equally silly question

[Spijed]

You would have to be a fairly daft to think on gaining promotion they won't sign players.

How would Rochdale get on in the Champions League is an equally silly question

Isn't the question of the OP simply "How would THIS team fare in the PL"?

That seems to have got a bit lost somewhat!

[dibraidio]

With all the loan signings gone we'd be left with this team:
..........................................Muric/BPF
...Roberts/Lowton....Long/McNally....Beyer*/Taylor....Vitinho
........................Cullen/Bastien...............Cork/Westwood
.........JBG/Benson..........Brownhill/Costelloe...........Zaroury/Churlinov
..............................Rodriguez/Barnes/Twine

I've still included Beyer because apparently there's an option to buy if we get promoted which I presume there isn't for the others.

Is that a weaker team than we had last season? I'd say yes, particularly in terms of experience, they may have technical ability but it's something else to go and play your best at Old Trafford or the Etihad.

As things stand there are still questions about the goalkeepers.
Lowton, Long, McNally, Westwood, Costelloe, Twine and Barnes hardly play or aren't fit.
Roberts is criticised quite a lot on here for his performances. Beyer, Cullen, Bastien, Churlinov, Zaroury and Vitinho are still proving that they are good enough for the Championship. As a wise man once said one swallow doesn't make a summer, only time will tell if they are standout players at this level.
Taylor is playing out of position and could end up like Cornet at Lyon where he's an average player because he's playing out of position.
JBG, Cork and Jay Rod are thought to be too old to hack it at the top level.
That leaves Brownhill who is young enough and almost definitely good enough to contribute next season.

Perhaps we should just sit back and enjoy watching these players evolve over the season, hopefully some of them will prove that they are the real deal.