Jeff Hendrick returns

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:30 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:22 am
Refused to play or out of contract at the time with no legal obligation to play for us and didn't want to sign a contract extension etc

I suppose it depends on how you want to spin it to suit the agenda you're pushing.
Premier league players get an extra month wages at the end of their contracts to smooth over any moves.

He was getting paid while refusing to play.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by claret2018 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:33 am

A 6/10 player if there ever was one. I’d completely forgotten about him.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:49 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:30 am
Premier league players get an extra month wages at the end of their contracts to smooth over any moves.

He was getting paid while refusing to play.
His original contract had expired, regardless of the extra months pay that's standard.

I know lots of you hate the bloke, but he wasn't the only one to not want to play yet he's the one getting the brunt of it on here.

Some of you just need to get over yourselves, we didn't get relegated as a result of his, or others, refusal to play

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:50 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:22 am
Refused to play or out of contract at the time with no legal obligation to play for us and didn't want to sign a contract extension etc

I suppose it depends on how you want to spin it to suit the agenda you're pushing.
Refused to play whilst still being paid. The only reason he was asked to play was because the season had been extended due to a global pandemic.

We’ve subsequently learned with the Vydra situation that had he been injured in that period we’d have been obliged to continue paying him throughout his rehab.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:55 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:49 am
His original contract had expired, regardless of the extra months pay that's standard.

I know lots of you hate the bloke, but he wasn't the only one to not want to play yet he's the one getting the brunt of it on here.

Some of you just need to get over yourselves, we didn't get relegated as a result of his, or others, refusal to play
He’s getting ‘the brunt’ on here because this a thread with his name as a title and people were discussing whether or not he deserves a clap. I’d have posted the same in respect of any of the others that didn’t want to play.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Steve1956 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:01 am

Should get a good welcome..he probably won't...he was a top player for us.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:55 am
He’s getting ‘the brunt’ on here because this a thread with his name as a title and people were discussing whether or not he deserves a clap. I’d have posted the same in respect of any of the others that didn’t want to play.
He was a key player in the club getting a foothold in the PL, which people will predictably argue against.

Of course he deserves our respect.

You can whine all you like about him refusing to play whilst out of contract, he had to think about the next step in his career and if he'd suffered an ACL, for example, he was then screwed, but you're not thinking about that because you're busy grinding a bizarre axe.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:03 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:49 am
His original contract had expired, regardless of the extra months pay that's standard.

I know lots of you hate the bloke, but he wasn't the only one to not want to play yet he's the one getting the brunt of it on here.

Some of you just need to get over yourselves, we didn't get relegated as a result of his, or others, refusal to play
I don't think anyone hates him and I'm not sure anyone needs to get over themselves.
There's just plenty of reasons and actions that people will judge him on, good or bad and make their mind up.

Some say he was bobbins some say he was better than Christino. Some say he was just extremely average.

If he was signed for a million I would say he was alright for us, but 10?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:06 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 am
He was a key player in the club getting a foothold in the PL, which people will predictably argue against.

Of course he deserves our respect.

You can whine all you like about him refusing to play whilst out of contract, he had to think about the next step in his career and if he'd suffered an ACL, for example, he was then screwed, but you're not thinking about that because you're busy grinding a bizarre axe.
I’m not grinding a bizarre axe, I just happen to have a different view of the situation than you.

You clap him if you wish, I’ll just ignore the fact he’s on the field.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:15 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:03 am
I don't think anyone hates him and I'm not sure anyone needs to get over themselves.
There's just plenty of reasons and actions that people will judge him on, good or bad and make their mind up.

Some say he was bobbins some say he was better than Christino. Some say he was just extremely average.

If he was signed for a million I would say he was alright for us, but 10?
4 years, 122 PL appearances, 139 across all competitions.
Wasn't injury prone, played across various positions and generally put in a shift.

For £10 million, that's an absolute bargain, especially when you look around the league and see the poor return other clubs regularly get from expensive buys.

Some of you throw logic and reasoning out of the window when it comes to Hendrick, never understood why tbh when you take into consideration the above.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:15 am

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:06 am
I’m not grinding a bizarre axe, I just happen to have a different view of the situation than you.

You clap him if you wish, I’ll just ignore the fact he’s on the field.
You can't ignore a thread about him on here :lol:
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:23 am

10 million, bargain?

That’s about the budget we’ve spent on a near entire new team playing terrific stuff - that’s what I’d call a bargain.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:01 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:15 am
4 years, 122 PL appearances, 139 across all competitions.
Wasn't injury prone, played across various positions and generally put in a shift.

For £10 million, that's an absolute bargain, especially when you look around the league and see the poor return other clubs regularly get from expensive buys.

Some of you throw logic and reasoning out of the window when it comes to Hendrick, never understood why tbh when you take into consideration the above.
Which begs the question.

Why has nobody else splashed out 10m for him since?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Targetman » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:03 am

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:02 am
He was a key player in the club getting a foothold in the PL, which people will predictably argue against.

Of course he deserves our respect.

You can whine all you like about him refusing to play whilst out of contract, he had to think about the next step in his career and if he'd suffered an ACL, for example, he was then screwed, but you're not thinking about that because you're busy grinding a bizarre axe.
He could have got knocked down by a car whilst crossing the road!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Big Vinny K » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:06 am

Brady was £13m, Defour £8m, Vydra £10m plus etc etc
We know when you are in the premier league there is a premium you have to pay when buying players.

So the first thing you hope for when you are committing to spend of over £20m on a player (including their contracted wages) is for them to be available to play. Hendrick was available for most of his time here and also was able to play a number of different positions. For a side with our lack of resources and often a pretty weak bench with little in terms of back up then without a doubt Hendrick was very important to Dyche and therefore to our sustained period in the league.

Is he the best player we have ever seen in a claret shirt ? Clearly not.
Did he have a fraction of the talent of Defour ? Nope - but you could easily argue he was more important to Burnley than a player who missed as many games as SD did through injury.

He also scored a few crackers for us and gave us a few memorable moments.
We were good for him and he was good for us.

I hope he gets a decent reception from us as he’s certainly done nothing to justify being booed.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:08 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:01 am
Which begs the question.

Why has nobody else splashed out 10m for him since?
His contract at Newcastle will have been worth £10 million so a bit of a silly question I think

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:12 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:08 am
His contract at Newcastle will have been worth £10 million so a bit of a silly question I think
He will have taken 10m off us in wages and bonuses.

Shall I alter the question to 20 to take in wages?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by claretabroad » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:14 am

He filled a very important role in the team that squad that finished 7th. This utility role is something that ever squad needs. He was a player who could be put into a lot of different positions and perform adequately. Andy Farrell did this for us back in the lower divisions. James Milner did it for the recent Liverpool title winning it. He was never spectacular in any of his positions be it on the right of midfield, behind the front man or in the centre of midfield, but he always did a job. He was also capable of the odd amazing goal.

For those who label him a mercenary, that's what being a professional footballer is. Virtually every single player in the world is aways trying to maximise their earning potential from what can be a very short career.

At one point we were the team who offered him the best terms. He agreed to come to us and performed to the best of his ability. Then another team offered him more and he went there. I thank him for being part of our recent success and fondly remember some of his goals and performances. Today he will be playing for our opposition so I don't want him to succeed but there is no reason for animosity towards a solid contributor from the past.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:15 am

Targetman wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:03 am
He could have got knocked down by a car whilst crossing the road!
Little bit different to being injured whilst at work.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by daveisaclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:15 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:12 am
He will have taken 10m off us in wages and bonuses.

Shall I alter the question to 20 to take in wages?
Don't think it's likely his contract here was anywhere near as big as his contract at Newcastle. They committed a lot of money for him and it was a step up. Daft to criticise him for not being worth as much as we paid when the only club who has signed him after us clearly disagreed - him being on a free doesn't change that.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Vintage Claret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:41 pm

Like any returning player who did ok for us I'll give them a polite clap when their names announced or they come on/go off as a sub.

If nothing else he deserves a clap for the memory of this cracker v Bournemouth :-)

https://youtu.be/YPYZv1mZPXE

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Spijed » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:50 pm

Belgianclaret wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 10:23 am
10 million, bargain?

That’s about the budget we’ve spent on a near entire new team playing terrific stuff - that’s what I’d call a bargain.
At a level below though.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:55 pm

Thought he was good for us after a while bedding in and some of his assists and goals involving Vydra were superb.

Would have done a job had he stayed but left for a pay rise when Garlick i believe offered him a wage reduction for his new contract during the covid first lockdown?

Will be interesting to see how he plays against us if anything else.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Ampth7 » Sat Oct 29, 2022 1:44 pm

Aclaret wrote:
Fri Oct 28, 2022 9:50 pm
Geoff Hendrix
Was he the guitarist/singer from the 60’s?

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by arise_sir_charge » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm

All this talk, it was a shame Reading didn’t play him.
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Culmclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:15 pm

ecc wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:19 am
"He was ok for us. Some excellent games and gave us an angular physicality."

Just trying to work out exactly what "angular physicality" is.
Poetic licence! Strangely effective gaucheness or awkwardness might be clearer!

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by NRC » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:25 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
All this talk, it was a shame Reading didn’t play him.
:D I really didn't notice him at all
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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Tribesmen » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:35 pm

Was he on ther pitch ????????????????????

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Aclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:38 pm

Poor Jeff looked lost !

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by DCWat » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:38 pm

arise_sir_charge wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:09 pm
All this talk, it was a shame Reading didn’t play him.
Reminded me of many of his performances for us.

He had some decent games for us. Most though were akin to his performance for Reading today - anonymous.

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Belgianclaret » Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:49 pm

His usual invisible self

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:46 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:20 am
We obviously achieved that with proverbial ten men. Some effort for little old Burnley.
:D

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Re: Jeff Hendrick returns

Post by Quickenthetempo » Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:50 pm

So good today Jedi named a pub after him

'Jeff Hendrick returns'

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