Wout WEeghorst

[FCBurnley]

Think Saints will pull Tella back which leaves a big hole in our team. True pace is hard to replace. WW could not be more different to Tella ! Get him sold if we can and try and do a deal for Tella and replace Barnes with Costello who would blossom under VK.

[Bigvince]

Mental

He would thrive in this system and more importantly, gives us two strikers rather than the one we have at the moment (I'm not counting Barnes, and the Turkish lad just hasn't played enough)

His only crime was being honest about why he was leaving, and if you think that all the others who left didn't say similar privately then I've got a bridge to sell you

If VK wants him to come back, and WW wants to come back and give it his all, that’s ok, but I’d do remember the big sulk he had after being substituted against Watford.
If you’re referring to his unwillingness to play in the championship as being honest? then wanting to come back in January, sort of disproves that!

[houseboy]

Fact: he came to us with a record of scoring 1 goal every two games in Holland and Germany.
Fact: He now has a record of the same in Turkey.
Fact: he couldn’t score for us.
Conclusion: it seems to say more about Dyches style of play than it does about the player.

Under our current system bringing him back (if that really is a possibility) is a no-brainer. The guy is obviously a talented and consistent goal scorer at high levels. In our set up he could have a field day. I don’t care about the circumstances of his leaving, I’m sure he’s an okay bloke.

[Colburn_Claret]

If VK wants him to come back, and WW wants to come back and give it his all, that’s ok, but I’d do remember the big sulk he had after being substituted against Watford.
If you’re referring to his unwillingness to play in the championship as being honest? then wanting to come back in January, sort of disproves that!

He wanted to give himself the best chance of being selected for the WC Squad. The world cup will be over in January, so the point you are making is pointless.

[Paul Waine]

Let's not forget Southampton have the ability to recall Tella so Wout returning may plug that attacking gap. I'm sure VK and Bellamy will be able to address any attitude issues.

1) I don't think the club has too many goal scorers, even if Nathan Tella isn't recalled by Soton;

2) I'd expect Vincent Kompany, a Belgian and Craig Bellamy who has coached in Belgium to be totally comfortable with Dutch "tell it as it is" attitude.

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[Woodleyclaret]

Tella out Wout in ,now that really is a pxxxtake
I would soon we got Nathan in in January on a permanent deal.

[gawthorpe_view]

When does his contract with Burnley expire? One issue with bringing him.back.in January would likely be his wages - until.we get promoted that is!!! How much per week was he earning? Interestingly I was told this week that our top earner now is on 40k / week and rsrely plays.

Wout shouldn't really have any personal issues with this squad as its changed massively since he departed.

Contracted until 2025.

[Hibsclaret]

The last thing we need in this squad right now is someone that can impact the great team spirit in a negative way. For all Wout’s undoubted ability I wouldn’t trust him not to affect that tbh.

He hasn’t pulled up any trees in the Turkish pub league tbh having scored against Umraniyespor, Hatayspor (in a defeat), Istanbulspor, Sivasspor & Karagumruk.
He has failed to score against the good teams they have played (Trabzonspor, Fenerbahce & Basaksehir).

It’s a no from me tbh.

[jrgbfc]

For all the comments about his attitude I don't recall him ever giving less than 100% on the pitch, where it matters.

[jen1066]

For all the comments about his attitude I don't recall him ever giving less than 100% on the pitch, where it matters.

it matters off the pitch too to be fair. But I'm happy to leave it up to VK. They haven't done a bad job at judging who is and who isn't fit for the side, so far.

[Hibsclaret]

I’m not sure why we are comparing Tella with Weghorst. They are totally different types of players. Tella is absolutely rapid and runs in behind. Weghorst looks like he’s running through treacle. If we lose Tella then we will likely need someone with a similar amount of pace and playing profile. Weghorst is a completely different animal with good technique but you’d have to question his lack of pace as a comparison to Tella along with his attitude.

[Bigvince]

He wanted to give himself the best chance of being selected for the WC Squad. The world cup will be over in January, so the point you are making is pointless.

Fair point, just hope if he does come back he’s willing to accept squad rotation

[Carwin261]

Dutchmen can’t jump,should be nowhere near our silky skills team.

[KRBFC]

If VK wants him to come back, and WW wants to come back and give it his all, that’s ok, but I’d do remember the big sulk he had after being substituted against Watford.
If you’re referring to his unwillingness to play in the championship as being honest? then wanting to come back in January, sort of disproves that!

No it doesn't, the World Cup will be over in January, not that difficult to understand really. A lot of players throw a strop when subbed, doesn't mean they all have a bad attitude.

[Notsosuperstevedavis]

To be fair. Has anyone had to jump for a goal we’ve scored this season?

Also, Whilst we have him signed and contracted to BFC its our problem.

So regardless of opinion, its got to be the final say of VK if he can think he can make it work for is or to say ‘no’ if he thinks it would damage his team.

Incidentally, despite the reported €10m fee (option) they have on him, they strangely think this could be dropped in their favour significantly if we fail to go up.

We can speculate all we want about attitude. We’ll never know.

But from my point of view it al has to be in line with whats best for the club. Be that either bringing him back and getting us promoted (to protect his resale value) or fogging him and cutting our losses so that the team doesnt suffer, thus, giving us bettwr chances of going up. And protecting the clubs value.

[Big Vinny K]

…..or fogging him and cutting our losses….

I CAN’T SEE us doing that

[Somethingfishy]

The very same people that vilify Weghorst will worship the ground Ben Mee walks on. Ok they didn't have the same cult status but let's not forget that Ben Mee left because he wanted to keep playing at a higher level. The very same reason Weghorst has temporarily left us.
Weghorst was guilty of being open and honest..possibly a little too honest considering he was still under contract.
They have however done exactly the same thing.

He'd tear this division a new one in this system....if he gets his head together.

[Hibsclaret]

Ben Mee left with class after playing for us for ten years. This guy played about 2 good games for us. Ridiculous comparison.

[bfccrazy]

The thing that Frustrated me with him a lot was the amount of “easy” chances he completely fluffed.

We seem to have players who are hitting the target and bagging good chances more often - obviously we’ll have more chances at this level but the amount of times WW got into decent positions and fluffed it was mental (I can’t reel off the exact chances now but remember at the time thinking ‘if only he hit target there’).

If he comes back, I’d be happy with it because his all round play was great - shown in the buildup to the goal vs United and he seemed to have a great footballing brain and good feet for a big lad. He does have big boots to fill though with Jay and Tella bagging and giving it all on the pitch and with the sentiments of a lot of fans towards his manner of exit, he’ll have to score every chance and make every pass and give “110%” or people will be waiting to jump on him.

If he can come back and cope with that and thrive, then we’ll have some player on our hands ……… I just don’t know if he comes across as the sort of player who gets excited/has the mentality to do that though after his little hissy fit at Watford.

[bfccrazy]

The very same people that vilify Weghorst will worship the ground Ben Mee walks on. Ok they didn't have the same cult status but let's not forget that Ben Mee left because he wanted to keep playing at a higher level. The very same reason Weghorst has temporarily left us.
Weghorst was guilty of being open and honest..possibly a little too honest considering he was still under contract.
They have however done exactly the same thing.

He'd tear this division a new one in this system....if he gets his head together.

Ben Mee has been up and down with us ….. and has previously kept signing contracts with us. He’s gotten probably his last big deal and stayed at the top level.

WW played a few months and had a hissy fit then went off on loan (which we’ll still no doubt be contributing to his wages?) ……

[Somethingfishy]

Ben Mee left with class after playing for us for ten years. This guy played about 2 good games for us. Ridiculous comparison.

So we judge solely based on time played for us? They both left for exactly the same reason. They wanted to play at a higher level. Remember wondering about Bens contract dragging on? Almost certainly waiting to see which division we were in first.

I'm not saying Ben was wrong. I'm saying Wout was honest about his intentions and because he was ineffective (due to Dyches ridiculous tactics/ treating him like Wood mark 2) some people judge differently. Unfairly.

[Hibsclaret]

Ben was out of contract. WW had signed one a few months earlier. You really are comparing chalk and cheese and a club legend with someone who played a handful of games.

[ClaretAL]

I bet his wage bill is eye watering for the this level and may upset that apple cart considering those playing. Unless of course there was something written in his contract to reduce the wage in line with the drop.

[Healeywoodclaret]

My thoughts on him said enough - BUT - would he suit this style of play? Absolutely.

If he was up for it, and there isn’t bad blood between him and the squad, then it might be worth a go…

Well Connor Roberts won't welcome him back.
Personally I don't think he'd want to come back. I don't think he was happy at Burnley, probably for a lot of reasons, and probably why we didn't see the best of him.

I'd be happy for him to stay where he is.

[Healeywoodclaret]

The very same people that vilify Weghorst will worship the ground Ben Mee walks on. Ok they didn't have the same cult status but let's not forget that Ben Mee left because he wanted to keep playing at a higher level. The very same reason Weghorst has temporarily left us.
Weghorst was guilty of being open and honest..possibly a little too honest considering he was still under contract.
They have however done exactly the same thing.

No comparison IMO. Ben Mee was a Legend for BFC. Very loyal. Did everything for the cause. Tru Pro. Certainly I never saw him in a strop.

He'd tear this division a new one in this system....if he gets his head together.

[Healeywoodclaret]

No comparison between Ben Mee and WW. I'm with Hibs. Ridiculous comparison. Ben Mee was a Legend for BFC. Very Loyal. Did everything for the cause. True Pro. Certainly never saw him in a strop.

[Steve1956]

I'd welcome this guy back in a heartbeat,think he'd score for fun in the Championship....he's our player get him back here in January

[Darnhill Claret]

Get him back here and sell him. Probably get £15m with add-ons in January if he has an ok World Cup and maybe considerably more if he has an excellent World Cup.

[gandhisflipflop]

The thing that Frustrated me with him a lot was the amount of “easy” chances he completely fluffed.

We seem to have players who are hitting the target and bagging good chances more often - obviously we’ll have more chances at this level but the amount of times WW got into decent positions and fluffed it was mental (I can’t reel off the exact chances now but remember at the time thinking ‘if only he hit target there’).

If he comes back, I’d be happy with it because his all round play was great - shown in the buildup to the goal vs United and he seemed to have a great footballing brain and good feet for a big lad. He does have big boots to fill though with Jay and Tella bagging and giving it all on the pitch and with the sentiments of a lot of fans towards his manner of exit, he’ll have to score every chance and make every pass and give “110%” or people will be waiting to jump on him.

If he can come back and cope with that and thrive, then we’ll have some player on our hands ……… I just don’t know if he comes across as the sort of player who gets excited/has the mentality to do that though after his little hissy fit at Watford.

Chris Wood missed a lot of chances too!

[NoFixedAbode_Claret]

A very simple 'No'

[dermotdermot]

I wouldn’t want him back. We have Twine and Churlinov to return and Dervisoglu, who looks good and hasn’t perhaps played as much as he should have.

Sell him to the Turkish team.

[clarethomer]

Would this see some leavers in jan?

Surely the loan was to remove wages as much as anything else

[Dingo]

If he’s back with us in January or next season he’ll have my full support. I hope it happens.

[Swizzlestick]

Absolutely would have him back, would be a real asset in this team.

[bfccrazy]

Chris Wood missed a lot of chances too!

Do you want him back?

If he misses chances like he was doing, coupled with the I’ll feeling against him from a lot of fans about how he went to Turkey …… it’s not a great mix for a good reception.

[Hibsclaret]

He might just about make the bench.

[Swizzlestick]

The thing that Frustrated me with him a lot was the amount of “easy” chances he completely fluffed.

We seem to have players who are hitting the target and bagging good chances more often - obviously we’ll have more chances at this level but the amount of times WW got into decent positions and fluffed it was mental (I can’t reel off the exact chances now but remember at the time thinking ‘if only he hit target there’).

If he comes back, I’d be happy with it because his all round play was great - shown in the buildup to the goal vs United and he seemed to have a great footballing brain and good feet for a big lad. He does have big boots to fill though with Jay and Tella bagging and giving it all on the pitch and with the sentiments of a lot of fans towards his manner of exit, he’ll have to score every chance and make every pass and give “110%” or people will be waiting to jump on him.

If he can come back and cope with that and thrive, then we’ll have some player on our hands ……… I just don’t know if he comes across as the sort of player who gets excited/has the mentality to do that though after his little hissy fit at Watford.

I think the reason you can’t reel them off is because there wasn’t many. The main one is obviously the Villa chance but I remain convinced he doesn’t do a whole lot wrong. Hits it true, but it’s just a sensational block. I have no issues with a player showing his emotions tbh (though I think the Watford one is exaggerated) as long as he puts in a shift on the pitch and he very much did that.

[bfccrazy]

I think the reason you can’t reel them off is because there wasn’t many. The main one is obviously the Villa chance but I remain convinced he doesn’t do a whole lot wrong. Hits it true, but it’s just a sensational block. I have no issues with a player showing his emotions tbh (though I think the Watford one is exaggerated) as long as he puts in a shift on the pitch and he very much did that.

There were a few when he’d mistime his runs massively or just fluff it. It got frustrating as he was bagging those chances for fun in Germany. There’s definitely a player there and with other recent murmurs it could have been his head wasn’t in it properly with what was happening at the club. A lot of mates I’ve spoken to about it have said they’d have him back but through gritted teeth.

[Commy]

We should have been out of sight at home to Liverpool. I think he missed 2 or 3. One I remember, he tried to lob the keeper and messed it up.

[helmclaret]

If the manager wants him back, let’s get him back.

[KRBFC]

The thing that Frustrated me with him a lot was the amount of “easy” chances he completely fluffed.

We seem to have players who are hitting the target and bagging good chances more often - obviously we’ll have more chances at this level but the amount of times WW got into decent positions and fluffed it was mental (I can’t reel off the exact chances now but remember at the time thinking ‘if only he hit target there’).

If he comes back, I’d be happy with it because his all round play was great - shown in the buildup to the goal vs United and he seemed to have a great footballing brain and good feet for a big lad. He does have big boots to fill though with Jay and Tella bagging and giving it all on the pitch and with the sentiments of a lot of fans towards his manner of exit, he’ll have to score every chance and make every pass and give “110%” or people will be waiting to jump on him.

If he can come back and cope with that and thrive, then we’ll have some player on our hands ……… I just don’t know if he comes across as the sort of player who gets excited/has the mentality to do that though after his little hissy fit at Watford.

Dunno how he missed that header against Southampton, hit post from 1 yard. He was brilliant that day too, that first 45 was probably our best performance of the entire season and he was a big part of it, just missed some really good chances.

[KRBFC]

For all the comments about his attitude I don't recall him ever giving less than 100% on the pitch, where it matters.

Every time he came off that pitch having ran his nutsack off, what was the game he recorded the most presses of any forward? United and Spurs home games he was visibly exhausted and kept running on empty for the team.

[KRBFC]

Final game of the season we were a much better side when he came on the pitch anyway

[andyh]

Impossible to say without talking to him. On paper better than we could hope to attract in the Championship. However it would all depend on his attitude to it. If he wanted it badly enough he could convince me… but I suspect he isn’t too keen.

[BigGaz]

Just an observation as I was mulling over our first half, particularly the moment where Zaroury put the ball into the box and there was no one there after we broke;

The only real concern I have regarding Weghorst is that we do look to struggle getting bodies in the box from time to time, as J-Rod drops deeper to link the play.

Weghorst is more immobile than Jay, so would perhaps exacerbate that issue.

No worries at all about attitude, Kompany has earned the right to take the measure of him and see if he can get him contributing.

[boatshed bill]

If i had the choice I'd take Dervisoglu over Wout

[Hibsclaret]

You’re right there. I’ve seen milk turn quicker. With all these dynamic quick players the last thing we need is Wout back.

[ClaretFelix]

Named in the Dutch squad for the World Cup..

[FeedTheArf]

Named in the Dutch squad for the World Cup..

Then his decision to force a move has been vindicated.

I can't see many Championship forwards making the Dutch world cup squad.

Still wouldn't have him back like!

[beddie]

I'd welcome this guy back in a heartbeat,think he'd score for fun in the Championship....he's our player get him back here in January

He wouldn’t be able to get in the box quick enough. Benson and Zaroury would be firing the crosses in only to find WW was just leaving the half way line.